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That's what I'm finding out Just windows 10 with new curtains.
I've worked out my update strategy for my off-line render system; I don't intend to migrate from 7 pro to 10 pro until I need a video driver not available for 7. My current guess is sometime before the end of the year, and probably take a day including before and after backups.
...same here. As long as there is a new driver update (not beta) I will download it. I am already 6 updates beyond the driver required for the 4.15.0.30 General release so I should be good for a while.
@ AgitatedRiot. I've been aware of the driver situation since July. Not touching W10 unless I can get my hands on the current Enterprise LSTC version which is good until 2029.and foregoes all the unneeded fluffware, feature, and version updates. I like my OS to be as clean and simple as possible
Just finished buying components for my system upgrade with components that are still supported in W7. Makes no difference to me that MS has ended W7 support and when Nvidia stops making new drivers for W7, I just use the last ones until I can find a non-windows/non-mac platform to work on. W8 - W11 are not offering any real benefits for me and the annoyances from the tablet (and newbie) oriented UI are just something I don't want on my computer.
..the best hope is that Wine gets some serious updating so the full Daz programme can be run on it without issues. For now I think I'm covered into Daz 5.x given how far ahead I am with Nvida drivers. I would imagine the version of Iray that is integrated will likely move to maybe 461.09 or at the latest 471.68.
My main concern is how much longer they will support Maxwell for Iray rendering. .Been working with the 4.15 general release and so far it's been running quite smoothly which makes me wonder if certain W10 updates aren't what maybe are causing issues that people are reporting.. Unless by a miracle I can score a 3060 at a reasonable price (not 2 to 3 times the MSRP), when it's over for Maxwell I'll just stay with whatever version still works. 330$ is a big ticket expense on my budget.
I get the impression, that a large portion of the problems are related to lack of RAM. People trying to run DS and render in Iray with 8 or 16GB's of RAM, not understanding that with the newest products that would need serious downsizing.
Absolutely
....that is an issue. I'm on the "edge" currently with 24 GB of RAM (about 1.2 GB of which is taken up by the OS, system processes and AV) and a Titan-X. To boost the RAM for optimal GPU support (4x the card's VRAM) would mean either a full upgrade with a new MB, CPU, and Memory (64 GB DDR4) which is a spendy option on my budget, or trying to coax the MB I have into supporting double the memory it normally does (48 GB DDR3) which some have been successful in doing.
Building a computer is one thing, messing around by "pushing the envelope" is another..
I like what I see but it still feels kind of unfinished in some aspects.
I do not regret installing it though.
One of these?
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16670/using-a-pcie-slot-to-install-dram-new-samsung-cxlmem-expansion-module
>>Gets around the broken-link problem by deleting the % glop off the end of it...<<
Kewl, was recently trying to find a device like that, since my current mobo won't take more than 32gigs of RAM. I hope that thing sees the light of day.
...sounds like it will be expensive as it is targeted towards datacenteres and AI .development. Also in the article it mentions it uses PCIe 5.0, expansion slots, my MB is PCIe 2.0.
Currently I have 6 sticks of Nemix 8 GB DDR3 1600 (48 GB) on the wishlist at Newegg,.total price just under 199$. Yeah I know I can get 4 x 16 GB sticks of DDR4 2666 for about 280$ but that means a new CPU (210$ for a Haswell 3.0 GHz 8c/16t 4th generation i7) and an LGA2011-3 MB which are hard to find new these days as most are used or refurbished and either ship form China or are rather expensive . The best "new" MB that ships from here in the States (Newegg direct) is an MSI X99 (I prefer ASUS) for 550$ which sends the cost of the total upgrade to over 1,000$
So are you asking for I still have it?
Since my MB supports it I might try this, when the market stabilizes Intel® Optane™ DC Persistent Memory, More Than Just Memory
If one has money to burn... I would wait for others to be the guinea pigs first. I still remember the hulabaloo around the turn of the century over Rambus, that was supposed to be almost the second coming...
My home built W95OSR2 rig for capturing video/video editing was running circles around big money rigs that fell for it...
If then
...well here is probably the least expesnive upgrade I can come up with using PC Part Picker that would be W11 compatible.
CPU: Intel Core i9-10900X 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor: $589.99
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler: $35.98
Motherboard Asus Prime X299-A II ATX LGA2066 Motherboard: $349.99 (does have TPM 2.0)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory: $229.99
Drives, PSU, Case, GPU, and displays I already have. Replacing the 240 GB SATA SSD with a 500 GB m2 drive (Samsung 860 Evo) for the boot drive would be an additional $84.99.
Total: $1,205.95 ($1,289.94 with the M.2 drive)
A full system I put together case, new PSU, larger boot, content library, and storage drives and an A4000 GPU came to 3,526$ & change
The processor came with a TPM embedded.
Again if you're going to do support a system you build for a client, you have to know what is causing problems. If somebody demands Win 11 you give it to them. Then if you build a custom system and load WIn 11, I use OEM OSes on new builds. You're their support. If you have a Dell who do you call for support, HP, Mac, Guess what the number 2 of the conditions for the Microsoft Windows OEM.
People just have to be patient. Scalpers are parasites, TPM is something that MS is going to have to patch because some people with decent hardware are not going to upgrade to W11 because of this requirement.
...interesting I thought it was a function of the MB or BIOS as that particular model was listed in the W11 supported ones.
Yeah I could pull the trigger on it but that would take half of my bank account. and I'd still be using a legacy GPU until I could scare up enough for a new one.
Can I ask, is there a core limit on Win11 Home? There is on Win10, just wondering if the same exists on Win 11.
Regards,
Richard
I have no idea they have AMD Treadriper with 64 cores listed as compatible.
Rufus now makes Windows 11 install media that bypasses the TPM, secure boot, and RAM requirements called "Extended Mode".So it can be installed on "unsupported" hardware.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rufus-creates-custom-windows-11-installs
this article has pictures
https://www.pcgamer.com/updated-burning-tool-makes-it-easy-to-ignore-windows-11-system-requirements/
Rufus is a tool for making USB or DVD install disks.I've been using it for years on Windows and haven't had any problems with it.
If your machine falls into the "unsupported" category , and you simply must have W11, rufus can make that happen for you.
I'm sure there are other ways, this one is literally 3 clicks then reboot to begin install.
Still no final answer from Microsoft if machines installed using the requirement bypasses will get updates or support of any kind, so proceed with caution.
I waited 2 years after WIndows 10 came out to upgrade from Windows 7, I can wait on 11. Especially since my system is a 6 year old i5-6600k and motherboard, which still does what I need it to do, so doesn't have that chip or whatever required for Win 11. Since it's a free upgrade to Win 10 like upgrading from Win 7 to Win 10 was, that's a win win situation for me.
The customer may get what he wants, but not from me. Been there and done that enough.
If you take the product and it works and is tested, it all works great, I make a backup by making an ISO of their disk. Everything works. So they going and start putting their personnel stuff on, they cause something to break, so I give them what they want I just have to make support windows, not their companies software. So give what they want, but make sure you make them understand I have to support windows, not your software. Makes sure it's in writing. So I get paid, again and again, and again.
Yes but you're missing the point! They're pink plaid curtains .... and ... and ... now we have round window corners so you don't cut yourself! TOO SUPER TERRIFIC AWESOME ... KAPOW!!!
think i'll go get another cup of espesso.
...omigod, Microsoft just went Plaid!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVqygvinzw