There's Always Another Sale Thread -- Discussions Only Pt 3

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  • rokkrrokkr Posts: 171

    XiousDs said:

    Xellosz said:

    joanna said:

    Well, for those who not so long ago argued that "no, Daz+ didn't become second class offer and Premier is just another tier," here's the first proof that you were wrong: in today's flash sale, Premier members get an extra discount. Daz+ just pay what non-members pay (yes, I checked in the cart, Daz+ members do not get the discount, so it's not only a visual/banner thing).

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    angry I share the feeling. 

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.  => I want my money back.

    As far as premier membership special price, the offer still stinks because the selection is aweful for the price point. And as I have said before. I don't think there is a point in daz+ (monthly) vs premier. For $9 more, premier is so much more worth it. I think the choice is between do I want premier this month, and if not then swap back to basic.

    But you'll be jumping and back and forth from Daz Studio Premier to Daz Studio Free? I don't think it's worth it... For me, Premier pays itself. Only for the the coupons, you 2x$10 plus the bundle Coupon. Tokens become something you probably won't have to worry about anymore in your life... And there's the Daz Studio Premier. But... Everyone knows what's best for themselves...

     

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 399
    rokkr said:

    XiousDs said:

    Xellosz said:

    joanna said:

    Well, for those who not so long ago argued that "no, Daz+ didn't become second class offer and Premier is just another tier," here's the first proof that you were wrong: in today's flash sale, Premier members get an extra discount. Daz+ just pay what non-members pay (yes, I checked in the cart, Daz+ members do not get the discount, so it's not only a visual/banner thing).

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    angry I share the feeling. 

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.  => I want my money back.

    As far as premier membership special price, the offer still stinks because the selection is aweful for the price point. And as I have said before. I don't think there is a point in daz+ (monthly) vs premier. For $9 more, premier is so much more worth it. I think the choice is between do I want premier this month, and if not then swap back to basic.

    But you'll be jumping and back and forth from Daz Studio Premier to Daz Studio Free? I don't think it's worth it... For me, Premier pays itself. Only for the the coupons, you 2x$10 plus the bundle Coupon. Tokens become something you probably won't have to worry about anymore in your life... And there's the Daz Studio Premier. But... Everyone knows what's best for themselves...

     

    So my comparison wad between the difference of monthly daz+ and premier. It's $9 and the benefit of free stuff and additional discounts well makes up for the extra $9. I got the lycan character bundle with October's free bundle coupon, then on Monday this week I used my $10 DO coupon to get the buyin hair item and the lycan 9 bundle add on for free. But, if you are not going to pay for premier, then to me it seems you might as well drop to basic and bump back up to premier when it makes sense for you. I will be keeping premier active through January at the least at which point I will then wait and see. If I won't be using daz much for the month cause of other stuff going on, then the extras of studio premier won't matter. Also, I pretty much own all of the similar functions that the new version includes. Best i can tell, the only thing that is truly new is geometry sculptor aka mesh grabber 4 which is VERY nice. It let's me do some of the stuff I would have had to export to blender to tweak before moving back in. Much nicer to have that higher level of control in daz studio premier, BUT if I will be mostly working with other stuff during the month, and not using the tool, then I might be fine delaying the subscription for a while. Atleast until I will be doing stuff that would benefit from it or sales would facilitate the premier upgrade for the month.
  • ElorElor Posts: 1,529
    edited November 14

    joanna said:

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    Not exactly the same: as with any of the similar promotions requiring buying a $1 or more new release, a Daz+ member can buy a new Daz+ item at Daz+ price.

    Post edited by Elor on
  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 742
    XiousDs said:
    Xellosz said:

    joanna said:

    Well, for those who not so long ago argued that "no, Daz+ didn't become second class offer and Premier is just another tier," here's the first proof that you were wrong: in today's flash sale, Premier members get an extra discount. Daz+ just pay what non-members pay (yes, I checked in the cart, Daz+ members do not get the discount, so it's not only a visual/banner thing).

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    angry I share the feeling. 

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.  => I want my money back.

    As far as premier membership special price, the offer still stinks because the selection is aweful for the price point. And as I have said before. I don't think there is a point in daz+ (monthly) vs premier. For $9 more, premier is so much more worth it. I think the choice is between do I want premier this month, and if not then swap back to basic.
    It's not just about the price this time. This happening once then it could happen again and again more frequently. Let's Say there is a good offer and Pc+ gets nothing while premier gets the offer ín the future... PS: Random items doesn't worth the $$$ for me. My product libary is large here and I have several K or more like 10k items over at unreal and unity.
  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,989

    Hey gang, please remind me again, how long does the standard introductory discount usually last? thx

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,529
    edited November 14

    Two weeks I think.

    Edit: I checked and Lycan is the first new release to not have the 30% new release discount and was release the last day of October. Items released the next day still have the 30% new discount.

    Post edited by Elor on
  • HylasHylas Posts: 4,989

    Thank you! yes

  • OK, if anyone is interested in getting both Kai 9 & Koa 9 Character Bundles, using the Free Character Bundle coupon is probably not the best way.

    Having both bundles plus the 3 addons in carts adds up to $37.67 for me.

    Applying the Free Charater Bundle coupon brings the price only down to $30.22.
    One bundle is then priced $0.00 but the other bundle plus the addons increase in price.

    Using the $10 free DAZ originals instead brings the cart down to $27.67

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,743

    Hylas said:

    Hey gang, please remind me again, how long does the standard introductory discount usually last? thx

    Intro discount typically lasts 2 weeks.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,743

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    OK, if anyone is interested in getting both Kai 9 & Koa 9 Character Bundles, using the Free Character Bundle coupon is probably not the best way.

    Having both bundles plus the 3 addons in carts adds up to $37.67 for me.

    Applying the Free Charater Bundle coupon brings the price only down to $30.22.
    One bundle is then priced $0.00 but the other bundle plus the addons increase in price.

    Using the $10 free DAZ originals instead brings the cart down to $27.67

    Cris posted in the sales error thread that it should be fixed now (I'm not premier so I can't test it).

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,947

    Xellosz said:

    XiousDs said:

    Xellosz said:

    joanna said:

    Well, for those who not so long ago argued that "no, Daz+ didn't become second class offer and Premier is just another tier," here's the first proof that you were wrong: in today's flash sale, Premier members get an extra discount. Daz+ just pay what non-members pay (yes, I checked in the cart, Daz+ members do not get the discount, so it's not only a visual/banner thing).

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    angry I share the feeling. 

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.  => I want my money back.

    As far as premier membership special price, the offer still stinks because the selection is aweful for the price point. And as I have said before. I don't think there is a point in daz+ (monthly) vs premier. For $9 more, premier is so much more worth it. I think the choice is between do I want premier this month, and if not then swap back to basic.
    It's not just about the price this time. This happening once then it could happen again and again more frequently. Let's Say there is a good offer and Pc+ gets nothing while premier gets the offer ín the future... PS: Random items doesn't worth the $$$ for me. My product libary is large here and I have several K or more like 10k items over at unreal and unity.

    It's called a reset. No more middle. 

  • Leana said:

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    OK, if anyone is interested in getting both Kai 9 & Koa 9 Character Bundles, using the Free Character Bundle coupon is probably not the best way.

    Having both bundles plus the 3 addons in carts adds up to $37.67 for me.

    Applying the Free Charater Bundle coupon brings the price only down to $30.22.
    One bundle is then priced $0.00 but the other bundle plus the addons increase in price.

    Using the $10 free DAZ originals instead brings the cart down to $27.67

    Cris posted in the sales error thread that it should be fixed now (I'm not premier so I can't test it).

    Can confirm. Now the Free Char Bundle coupon does set one bundle to 0$ without affecting the other prices. So now using that one the cart price goes down to $22.67

  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,489

    rokkr said:

    It's a s*****y sale for Daz Premier too so we're all in the same boat... cheeky

    It was a bad sale for everyone, including the non-members, because of the products offered, yes. But Premier members got a discount while Daz+ didn't, so it wasn't the same offer. And what was being offered has nothing to do with it.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,489

    Elor said:

    joanna said:

    Being a Daz+ member definitely feels like second class now. Or even third, considering we get the same offer as non-members while Premium members get a special.

    Not exactly the same: as with any of the similar promotions requiring buying a $1 or more new release, a Daz+ member can buy a new Daz+ item at Daz+ price.

    So can a Premier member, but they also got an extra discount. Which lends to the point raised back in October of Daz+ now being second class membership which some people try to argue wasn't true.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 5,947

    Are you saying you don't like the emperor's new clothes?! Why, they're lovely!

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 872

    xyer0 said:

    Are you saying you don't like the emperor's new clothes?! Why, they're lovely!

    And they're a free gift if you include a Debut New, a Toon New, and a three-legged hedgehog in your cart with the code SO-STYLIN-DAZ*!!

    *Items must be in cart simultaneously
    *Does not include D+ items
    *Does not stack with other discounts
    *Can not be used to discount items already owned

  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,489

    SilverGirl said:

    xyer0 said:

    Are you saying you don't like the emperor's new clothes?! Why, they're lovely!

    And they're a free gift if you include a Debut New, a Toon New, and a three-legged hedgehog in your cart with the code SO-STYLIN-DAZ*!!

    *Items must be in cart simultaneously
    *Does not include D+ items
    *Does not stack with other discounts
    *Can not be used to discount items already owned

    Both of you made me chuckle, and that's not easy to achieve at ~7am in the morning. 

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,529

    joanna said:

    So can a Premier member, but they also got an extra discount. Which lends to the point raised back in October of Daz+ now being second class membership which some people try to argue wasn't true.

    My reaction was to the part of your message describing Daz+ members as being almost third class citizen: Daz+ members are not queens and kings of the discount anymore, but they are not beggars either.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,027

    well, i had a couple of the new bundles in my cart, overpriced, but one was free with my Premier coupon, had both and the required add-on for $18 ... but then decided I've spent enough and bought just the free bundle, deleted the rest. Great sale, zero dollars for a 5 item bundle. I bought the female, even though I need males in my library, but nothing in the bundle, including the male, really interested me. Koa looks like Genghis to me. 

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 872

    daveso said:

    well, i had a couple of the new bundles in my cart, overpriced, but one was free with my Premier coupon, had both and the required add-on for $18 ... but then decided I've spent enough and bought just the free bundle, deleted the rest. Great sale, zero dollars for a 5 item bundle. I bought the female, even though I need males in my library, but nothing in the bundle, including the male, really interested me. Koa looks like Genghis to me. 

    I think he was supposed to be a Maui stand-in, given Moana 2 opens on the 27th and the gal from today is obviously the title character. I liked the guy okay and might get him someday when much cheaper... but I don't think the likeness was particularly close. Might've bumped it up a bit if it had been, but oh well.

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 399

    daveso said:

    well, i had a couple of the new bundles in my cart, overpriced, but one was free with my Premier coupon, had both and the required add-on for $18 ... but then decided I've spent enough and bought just the free bundle, deleted the rest. Great sale, zero dollars for a 5 item bundle. I bought the female, even though I need males in my library, but nothing in the bundle, including the male, really interested me. Koa looks like Genghis to me. 

    I think he was supposed to be a Maui stand-in, given Moana 2 opens on the 27th and the gal from today is obviously the title character. I liked the guy okay and might get him someday when much cheaper... but I don't think the likeness was particularly close. Might've bumped it up a bit if it had been, but oh well.

    Earlier Genesis versions have Polynesian characters. They had not gotten to them yet in 9, so it may or maynot be coincidental timing. That said, though, I don't think their was any attempt to make them look like the characters from Moana as they could have easily accomplished that if it was their goal. What they do look like are folks with Polynesian ethnicity which is much vaster than just a couple disney characters.
  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 872

    XiousDs said:

    Earlier Genesis versions have Polynesian characters. They had not gotten to them yet in 9, so it may or maynot be coincidental timing. That said, though, I don't think their was any attempt to make them look like the characters from Moana as they could have easily accomplished that if it was their goal. What they do look like are folks with Polynesian ethnicity which is much vaster than just a couple disney characters.

    Look at the outfit for the girl.  Including the necklace. There is absolutely *no way* that's coincidental.

  • XiousDsXiousDs Posts: 399

    XiousDs said:

    Earlier Genesis versions have Polynesian characters. They had not gotten to them yet in 9, so it may or maynot be coincidental timing. That said, though, I don't think their was any attempt to make them look like the characters from Moana as they could have easily accomplished that if it was their goal. What they do look like are folks with Polynesian ethnicity which is much vaster than just a couple disney characters.

    Look at the outfit for the girl.  Including the necklace. There is absolutely *no way* that's coincidental.

    Beauty works made that outfit. So I will agree that beauty works was influenced greatly by the outfit worn by Moana in the 2016 film: however, that does not mean that the characters are supposed to be the characters from the movie. When Daz wants characters to look like characters, they make it happen. Example, the street fighter character girl, world of War craft undead elf Sylvanus, x-men loki and night crawler, presidents, etc. They are dead ringers. If anything they just figured that when there is hype around a Polynesian themed disney movie, that would be a good time to refresh their Polynesian characters since it's been a while. So from a daz leadership point of view I don't think their was an intention to make Kai and Koa look like the characters from Moana, so there shouldn't be an expectation for the characters to look like the characters from the movie. I mean they look similar from an ethnicity point of view, but that is because the cartoon and Daz characters are polynesian islanders which have some distinct features and characteristics. Now at some point maybe someone had an idea to do make a version that looked just like them, but I am sure that was nipped pretty quickly because disney has MANY lawyers just waiting to jump on stuff related to their animation IP. Disney is a big bear to poke. My brother inlaw does customized art for shirts and products, and he will get anything disney related struck down usually same day. He is Hawaiian and one of the things he liked to do was make real people into characters from Lilo and Stich by encorporating real features of them onto very similar versions of the characters. He made himself stich with his gages, tribal tattoos, clothing, etc, while making my sister Angel and incorporating some of her own features.
  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 82

    So change the gameplay for six hours?

    I thought there would be great discounts for Black Friday, but apparently there weren't.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,489

    AsuCafe said:

    So change the gameplay for six hours?

    I thought there would be great discounts for Black Friday, but apparently there weren't.

     The actual Black Friday is two weeks away. There might be great discounts then. Until then, it's just a marketing gimmick of "pre-Black Friday" offers.

  • AsuCafeAsuCafe Posts: 82

    joanna said:

    AsuCafe said:

    So change the gameplay for six hours?

    I thought there would be great discounts for Black Friday, but apparently there weren't.

     The actual Black Friday is two weeks away. There might be great discounts then. Until then, it's just a marketing gimmick of "pre-Black Friday" offers.

    That’s it, I’m not too sure about these festivals, thank you. 

    I hope the 30% off gift card will come back again.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,027

    if you use the coupon for the items presented, and happen to have tokens, you can get pretty decent amount off if you add any 6 items , at least for this segment of the sale. it seems the offer changes a bit each time, at least so far. I'm getting 91% off on each item. 

  • SilverGirl said:

    XiousDs said:

    Earlier Genesis versions have Polynesian characters. They had not gotten to them yet in 9, so it may or maynot be coincidental timing. That said, though, I don't think their was any attempt to make them look like the characters from Moana as they could have easily accomplished that if it was their goal. What they do look like are folks with Polynesian ethnicity which is much vaster than just a couple disney characters.

    Look at the outfit for the girl.  Including the necklace. There is absolutely *no way* that's coincidental.

    To me in the main promo, plus the next several (the briefs only renders to show off the full morph/skin), Koa 9 looks more like a Random Buff White Dude than a Pacific Islander. I am talking about promos on the character only page, not the bundle/add-on pages, to be clear. 

    Yes, it's not true of other promos on this page - but most of those include tattoos and possibly with at least 1 other morph dialed in. Probably the Premier Kanoa?

    I prefer the character promos with one render showing characters made from the base figure mixed with others and labeled (e.g., Koa+50% Michael 9, Koa + 50% Genghis 9, Koa + 70% Lawrence 9)

  • TomhipTomhip Posts: 382

    Its not the best of the best deals, but has some items I had on my wishlist for a long time and rarely ever see discounted.

  • So unimpressed with this sale. Hardly anything on my wishlist included, discounts not tempting unless your goal is simply Buy Many Things, & a number of items were on sale for considerably less last week as Doorbusters &/or Premier FaD. And I swear I've seen certain selections multiple times.

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