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Me too. $30 as a Buy in for 20% off Gfit card is just too much. Last week 25% was nice, but $250 minimun made it a no can't do for me
This last 'stack up' have a few items i really really want. But without decent discouinted credit and not even allowed to stack other codes. Yeah, no so much.
Well Daz has done it. The sales have been so bad since the new Premier offer that I don't buy hardly a darn thing. I used to buy way too much so thank God they have found a way to break me of that terrible habit. I look, but the pricing is so dis-heartening it's pretty easy to pass. The Lightning Deals aren't even worth a look. I agree with what others have said that the skimp wear is not for me, the new toon stuff isn't my favorite - and that's saying something because overall I like the toon and animal items best - and the overall pricing leaves a lot to be desired. It used to be fun to buy Daz but I guess now the thrill is gone.
Perhaps if you were new to Daz and wanting to spend the money for Premier it would be more interesting but if you've been around a while this is certainly a rude change. I don't know if they will ever have sales worth looking at again and once they train us not to look because they are so lame, we may not even see them if they have them. Anyone else feel the same?
My spending is down since Premier started. And we're in the lame spot between big sales. Being second class with Daz+ and the sticker shock of the new programs are both good for limiting my spending. It's not what I envisioned back in March and April. I guess it's for the best.
@RiverMissy I wouldn't worry that there will never be good sales here again - This is Daz site! Even without a membership, there are sometimes great deals to be had. This isn't one of those times, but holiday season is coming.
A 4tb NVME would be really nice! Mine is a 2tb NVME PCIE, and I'm filling it rather quickly.
...hmm, no other deals this weekend (the two orange banners don't interest me) save for buying items for a challenge that is not judged on a "1,2,3" finish, but on how much you spend on new releases to use in your entry. So for about 40 USD and change (for the only 3 "Battle" items that even slightly interest me) I get a one shot chance to win a 300$ GC by 22:59 local time Monday.
Not very good odds for what is basically an "RRRR" (Random Renders) challenge, given the highly "diverse" selection of item's I'd choose and have to make a fight scene with.. .
Nah, better to sit this weekend out unless one of those rare LDs shows up
...yeah, one is for the Koa and Kai bundles and the other is for the Cloudscape Creator Bare Sky HDRIs. For the latter you need to already own the original Cloudscape Creator. that came out a couple years ago. I do but rarely use as it's pretty heavy on my 13 (going on 14) year old system's resources even with my 12 GB Titan-X..
Check "Messages".
And the Koa/Kai banner is simply a link to the relevant daily sale page. Spam, essentially, and not a proper orange banner. :P
There are always a lot of complaints about pricing here but I remember when I first joined ages ago, there were nowhere near as many sales with such discounts as they have now. One of the first items I got (that was a Christmas gift from my parents lol) was Millenium Girls which, if I remember correctly, was well over $20 and never on sale. I can't seem to find it in the store anymore--maybe it's gone now? Anyhow, I remember my first March Madness when Daz uploaded new items in the morning rather than night (and never on time lol) when everyone on the forums got excited over the release of two or three new Daz Originals priced under $4.00 and everyone was thrilled. Now we can get items from $1.99-3.99 often and if one is really good at shopping here you can usually get new-ish PA items at over 85% off if you mix the right combination with tokens. Yeah, I'm not happy about the changes to Daz+ and not sure what I'm going to do when mine expires in April but for the last several years the prices (if you play the shopping cart game well enough) are much lower than in the supposed "good old days." I've been mad at Daz for various reasons throughout the years but the prices really can be great if you know to juggle things correctly.
I remember when Victoria was released back in 1999 you got the model and a base texture for around $90.00. Then on 1/12/01 the update came out for $59.95 once more just model and updated textures that rquired the first set, no genitals, no poses, and no morphs
Yeah, kind of a mixed blessing. I had a couple big cart days last summer where I kind of had to talk myself down from a "what if my spending continues like this??" panic... and then last month I didn't even spend $20. So... disappointing because I didn't get that little thrill of a new toy, but on the other hand, I do have a lot of new toys I haven't played with yet. And it gave me a chance to FINALLY get caught up with cataloging all the assets I got in the big spending days... it's awesome to have those environment sets that come with a million props, but man that takes a while to get pictures of them all listed in their correct files.
I spent my free time yesterday playing dollhouse kitbashing a rec room for my characters, though, and had a great amount of fun doing it, no extra spending required. Now I get to render stuff there. Maybe the actual Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales will lure me back.... but if not, I'll just go back to playing with my dolls and wait for another sale.
@SilverGirl I completely agree!
Must play with the toys we already have!
Yeah. I use Daz almost every day and I loved the geometry sculptor function. It's really a game changer (though I also have mesh grabber). I hope they improve it to the point I don't have to go to Blender or Hexagon to do anything else. But, if you have your hiatus from Daz from time to time, it makes sense jump back and forth from basic to premier. As long as I can afford it, I'll stick to Premiere (and there are other things to let go before, like Adobe CC Suite...). But I think if one is a regular customer, like, spend at least a hundred bucks each month, it's worthwhile.
My point was that, for any experienced buyer, the offer was meaningless, so it doesn't matter if you are Premier, Plus, or Basic. And...
... Of course, it's a second-class membership! It's the second tier! If Plus had the same advantages as Premier, it wouldn't make any sense for anyone to be Premier -- and if it happens one day, I'll cancel my Premier membership and jump back to Plus! I thought that should be obvious...
Meaningless or not, it did show that Premier got an extra discount while Daz+ got dumped in with Basic, so there were two tiers to the sale, not three. Something that several people argued was not going to happen.
If you missed that part, when Premier was introduced, some people argued that Daz+ wasn't "second class" but just "different tier for people with different needs" (if I recall the wording correctly). It's not about that Daz+ should have the same perks as Premier which you're implying. It's about Daz+ not getting special discounts anymore (which happened in the quoted sale and will likely happen again) which is devaluing the membership (with a message "you're either Premier or you don't matter"). Yes, it's obious and understandable that Daz+ doesn't get as deep discounts as Premier (see token gaining or DO discount). But when the sale says, "offer X, but get extra Y when you're Premier" not mentioning Daz+ at all, that's a different matter, and that was what I was referring to, not some "oh, Daz+ and Premier are not the same".
So, this is what I think should have happened: As a show of good faith, caring, etc, existing Daz+ customers should have got an upgrade to Premier for the duration of their current Daz+ subscription. After that, it's after that. That would have been the thing to do, IMO. Reward the people who bought in not knowing the buy-in was about to become a lot less valuable. Reward the people who have supported Daz, many for a long time. That would have smoothed over all the angry feelings about this situation, and I suspect many people who benefitted would have spent a lot of money in celebration. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.
Jeez, those last sales made me forget how expensive those products are nowadays especially since tokens are no longer offering that much discount for PA items. Just deleted a cart with some items. Promos plus usage of 8 tokens brought items to 51-66% but cart was > 70$ for just a few things. Too much for me.
don't know for sure, but it appears the prices went up even more just recently. Most are beyond my budget anymore. Yeah, tokens make a difference when you buy DO items. I've purchased more DO in the last month than I have in years. 90% off at least on most. Now its whoa, not happening.
My token expiry dates seem to be correct, or at least plausibnle, just now - we haven't had word of a fix, though.
^^^1000% this.
At the very, VERY least there should be a way to upgrade from D+ to Premier by paying the difference, on a monthly basis, and go back to (already paid for) D+ for the months one chooses not to upgrade. None of this "hey you took advantage of the good sale we offered, so here's some Cheerios if you want to trade, it's a great deal really" nonsense.
I realize some folk here are beating the Premier drum loud and proud, saying it's a great deal based on all sorts of factors... that don't apply to me. It would be nice if folk in my situation weren't left in the dust now that the new baby is here.
It's clear as day that Daz+ has lost much appeal. There's a new example today of this. Once again, we Daz+ subscribers are treated as basic members and only Premier members get a distinct treatment. Have a look at the Stealz sale. I don't know if I'll become Premier after my Daz+ sub expires in one year. But unless Daz can make the Daz+ tier more appealing, I won't renew Daz+ most likely.
It's a matter of perspective I guess, but I wouldn't take anything in that "Stealz" section if they were offereing them for free; they're simply archaic.
yes.. I though I was about to get something great, but then, nope.
But that's another matter. Personally, I haven't even bothered to check the items included in that section (today's sales haven't drawn my interest). The point still stands, though, that Daz+ has lost value.
Yep, mine, too. Went from Nov 20 to Dec 01, two weeks from yesterday's cart.
Yes, confirming my token expiry dates are now different - reflecting the two carts I bought recently - and are much later in the month, with dates that look about right. The count of tokens remained correct.