The Woolyloach Come Home Complaint Thread

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,216
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    DanaTA said:
    ps1borg said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...indeed, it is a big set with lots of stuff.

    Just recently picked up Magnus Manor which like The Bar is a big interior set with a lot of props and very nice textures as well.

    I currently am working on turning it into the main concert room for the Grande Manor.

    Perhaps I could put the pipe organ from Manor in this, tho it wouldn't have the pathos I guess. It sure is a nice pipe organ o/\o

    Is that the LoRez Monk & Donk? It's in my wishlist, but even on sale I couldn't d it.

    Dana

    Ayep

    http://www.daz3d.com/lorez-monk-and-donkey-bundle

    but I would have paid much less, I tend to follow artists and buy new releases

    :>)

    I can see a scene with a lot of monks, or a lot of donkeys, but not a lot of both. Maybe I'm just not creative enough. But at the full price? I couldn't ever justify that!

    I think the LoRez dafodills is a great idea, as is the LoRez chickens. Couldn't afford them, either.

    Dana
    Monks and Donkeys! Monks and Donkeys everywhere!

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  • M F MM F M Posts: 1,388
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...there will be a pop quiz on Friday. ;-)

    With the highest scores being labelled "swell", "great", and "solo"? ;-)
  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,216
    edited December 1969

    M F M said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...there will be a pop quiz on Friday. ;-)

    With the highest scores being labelled "swell", "great", and "solo"? ;-)
    Everyone will get a Participation Trophy. :)
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,211
    edited December 1969

    ...Positiv-ly. as long everyone sticks to the Principal topic of the discourse and doesn't Bombarde me with a lot of questions.

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Rezca said:
    Eeeeep! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0025UOMZM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8

    :D

    Soooo very happy to see I can get these on Amazon ^^
    My favorite kind of noodles x)

    noodle pron *swoon*

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,216
    edited December 1969

    Halloweenie Render Drop:
    "Billy's Nightmare"

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  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    DanaTA said:
    St. Anne's is in what was the French area of Fall River.

    WikiPedia said:
    The church is home to a 3 manual Casavant organ their Opus 2793 (1963). It contains 4,512 pipes ranging in length from 7 inches to over 32 feet. The instrument was featured in the 2003 convention of the Organ Historical Society at which time it was presented with the Society's official citation as being of historical significance.

    Just thought you'd be interested. I don't know anything about these churches historically, except that all three I mentioned are quite old. I'm sure the other two have some interesting organs, too. I didn't see mention of them, though.

    Dana


    [...well that makes the second time tonight FF bleedin' locked up on me forcing a hard shutdown and restart as the system was just hung up in a perpetual loop.]

    ...anyway...

    A very nice instrument. What I was able to find (before FF went all stupid in the head on me) was it is rather unusual for a mid - late 20th Century installation in that it all ranks (or sets of pipes) are what is termed as "straight" with no "borrowing" or "unification" that was usually commonplace in this era.

    Unification is a practise of using one set of pipes for handling several different stop pitches, in effect, making the stoplist look larger than the tonal resources (total number of pipes) that the instrument actually has. For example one row of pipes could be used say for flute stops of 16, 8, and 4' pitch (8' middle C corresponding to middle C on a piano) by extending it by another 13 pipes above and below the normal keyboard "compass".

    Borrowing is the practise of allowing a single stop to be drawn on more than one keyboard without coupling keyboards (or "divisions") together. This was especially common in the pedal division (the part of the organ played from the pedalboard).

    Unification and borrowing was most prevalent in Cinema organs due to the tight space restrictions and budgets of most theatrers of the day. In fact, unlike a church or concert hall organ, which has each set (called a "division") of stops assigned to a specific keyboard, a good number of individual stops on a cinema organ were what is termed "floating" in that they could be drawn and played on any of the keyboards (or even the pedals) without coupling one keyboard to another. This of course allowed the performer a great deal of flexibility and again, made the instrument appear much larger than it actually was both in the number of stop tabs on the console and tonal effects it could produce.

    By the mid 20th century this method of construction had been adopted in church and concert organ building as well as electronic key action was the norm. With electricity (assisted by pneumatics) there was no more weight to the touch. Unification and borrowing was only limited by the amount wiring between the console and pipe chests.

    The downside of this is a loss of richness and depth to the instrument's full ensemble as more than one key can be activating the same pipe.


    Back to the St Anne organ...

    The number of pipes for each stop listed in the specification corresponds exactly to the number of keys on the keyboards (61) or pedals (32) on the console. This is what is termed a "straight" specification A few stops do list more pipes than the corresponding number of keys/pedals, but these are what are termed compound registers (or "mixtures) where one stop actually activates a chorus of high pitched pipes which adds brightness and clarity to the full ensemble.

    This is the way organs were built before the advent of electricity going all the way back to the Gothic days. Key action was mechanical, just as it is in a piano, and each note on the keyboard or pedalboard was represented by an individual corresponding pipe on the windchest, the valve for which was opened via a series of levers, rollers, and pushrods (termed "trackers"). Because of this direct connection between the keyboard and windchest valve, unification and borrowing was not possible without adding a great deal of complicated machinery, and thus more weight to the touch. Indeed, before the invention of pneumatic assist in the mid 19th century, coupling two or three keyboards together required a bit of strength as well as dexterity as one was also moving the mechanism and keys for each of the keyboards coupled together.

    ...there will be a pop quiz on Friday. ;-)

    We seem to have lost a lot of the old crafts and tech dealing with fluid dynamics, along with the cool pneumatic pipes that used to carry paperwork around cities. There are still a few water driven factories around Europe, but nobody takes much interest in them and the astoundingly large and efficient pistons and gears that operated 18th century machinery.

  • M F MM F M Posts: 1,388
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...Positiv-ly. as long everyone sticks to the Principal topic of the discourse and doesn't Bombarde me with a lot of questions.

    Oh dear... well I'm getting Bourdon thinking of going to sleep... put that in your Pipe and smoke it ;-).

    Just make sure you don't Pedal that stuff to the youngsters like Tjohn and DanaTA... or Richard and Chohole will put a Stop to it immediately (^_^)n

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,211
    edited October 2013

    ...yeah, getting late so I guess it's best to put a stop to the discussion until I can review the manual to take the proper course of action so as not to cause any division among the rank and file and thus encourage any ill temprament.


    ...and on that note, I think I'll call it a night.

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,216
    edited December 1969

    Pipe down you two. If you don't see sharp you'll soon be flat. ;-)

  • ps1borgps1borg Posts: 12,776
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    Halloweenie Render Drop:
    "Billy's Nightmare"

    Hey cool hehe

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    Halloweenie Render Drop:
    "Billy's Nightmare"

    Hey great render man! I hope that kid works out to be silent and put out that candle! Zombies drawn to sound and will spot him easy with that candle :bug:

    LOVE the lighting, very creepy haha

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    Good mornin!

    complaints:
    i'm having a meh day. some kind of cold in my eye, keeps tearing and then it makes my nose stuff up.

    Engine alarm on the bus this morning, had to listen to it almost an hours, my ears are still ringing.

    creepy creep slowed to offer me a ride home on my lonely trek home from the bus stop, i always tell him 'no thanks' then he gets huffy cuz i won't get in his car. saw him in the deli this morning and he was on about how i should rode with him. i screamed out 'no thaniks', cuz he was creeping me out and my leaky eye was runny,
    not my best morning.

    but godiva pron makes it better :)

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    can a second monitor be at a different resolution?

    the parameters pallette.is swimmming in my vision. i was thinking maybe a 2nd monitor at lowest resolution. i don't know how the 2 monitors work. i have a HDMI out and VGA out, hoping that means i can use 2 monitors.

  • SiscaSisca Posts: 875
    edited December 1969

    can a second monitor be at a different resolution?

    the parameters pallette.is swimmming in my vision. i was thinking maybe a 2nd monitor at lowest resolution. i don't know how the 2 monitors work. i have a HDMI out and VGA out, hoping that means i can use 2 monitors.

    You can usually use both HDMI & VGA outputs to drive different monitors.

    Yes they can be at different resolutions. I currently have 2 LCD monitors hooked up. The native resolution of my main one is 1920x1080 while the second one is running at 1680x1050.

    If you're using LCD monitors you really want to run them at their native resolution since that's where they'll look the sharpest. Though if you're having eye problems running one at a lower resolution to make things seem bigger my work for a while.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited October 2013

    Kyoto Kid said:
    DanaTA said:
    St. Anne's is in what was the French area of Fall River.

    WikiPedia said:
    The church is home to a 3 manual Casavant organ their Opus 2793 (1963). It contains 4,512 pipes ranging in length from 7 inches to over 32 feet. The instrument was featured in the 2003 convention of the Organ Historical Society at which time it was presented with the Society's official citation as being of historical significance.

    Just thought you'd be interested. I don't know anything about these churches historically, except that all three I mentioned are quite old. I'm sure the other two have some interesting organs, too. I didn't see mention of them, though.

    Dana


    [...well that makes the second time tonight FF bleedin' locked up on me forcing a hard shutdown and restart as the system was just hung up in a perpetual loop.]

    ...anyway...

    A very nice instrument. What I was able to find (before FF went all stupid in the head on me) was it is rather unusual for a mid - late 20th Century installation in that it all ranks (or sets of pipes) are what is termed as "straight" with no "borrowing" or "unification" that was usually commonplace in this era.

    Unification is a practise of using one set of pipes for handling several different stop pitches, in effect, making the stoplist look larger than the tonal resources (total number of pipes) that the instrument actually has. For example one row of pipes could be used say for flute stops of 16, 8, and 4' pitch (8' middle C corresponding to middle C on a piano) by extending it by another 13 pipes above and below the normal keyboard "compass".

    Borrowing is the practise of allowing a single stop to be drawn on more than one keyboard without coupling keyboards (or "divisions") together. This was especially common in the pedal division (the part of the organ played from the pedalboard).

    Unification and borrowing was most prevalent in Cinema organs due to the tight space restrictions and budgets of most theatrers of the day. In fact, unlike a church or concert hall organ, which has each set (called a "division") of stops assigned to a specific keyboard, a good number of individual stops on a cinema organ were what is termed "floating" in that they could be drawn and played on any of the keyboards (or even the pedals) without coupling one keyboard to another. This of course allowed the performer a great deal of flexibility and again, made the instrument appear much larger than it actually was both in the number of stop tabs on the console and tonal effects it could produce.

    By the mid 20th century this method of construction had been adopted in church and concert organ building as well as electronic key action was the norm. With electricity (assisted by pneumatics) there was no more weight to the touch. Unification and borrowing was only limited by the amount wiring between the console and pipe chests.

    The downside of this is a loss of richness and depth to the instrument's full ensemble as more than one key can be activating the same pipe.


    Back to the St Anne organ...

    The number of pipes for each stop listed in the specification corresponds exactly to the number of keys on the keyboards (61) or pedals (32) on the console. This is what is termed a "straight" specification A few stops do list more pipes than the corresponding number of keys/pedals, but these are what are termed compound registers (or "mixtures) where one stop actually activates a chorus of high pitched pipes which adds brightness and clarity to the full ensemble.

    This is the way organs were built before the advent of electricity going all the way back to the Gothic days. Key action was mechanical, just as it is in a piano, and each note on the keyboard or pedalboard was represented by an individual corresponding pipe on the windchest, the valve for which was opened via a series of levers, rollers, and pushrods (termed "trackers"). Because of this direct connection between the keyboard and windchest valve, unification and borrowing was not possible without adding a great deal of complicated machinery, and thus more weight to the touch. Indeed, before the invention of pneumatic assist in the mid 19th century, coupling two or three keyboards together required a bit of strength as well as dexterity as one was also moving the mechanism and keys for each of the keyboards coupled together.

    ...there will be a pop quiz on Friday. ;-)

    All three of the churches mentioned were built in the 1800s, if that's any indication.

    Fascinating info, thanks! I don't know how much of it I will retain, but thanks!

    There was another Gothic church, cathedral Notre Dame de Lourdes, but it burned down in the 70s or 80s, I can't remember for sure. I think it was in the 70s. It was a big deal. I actually was in the neighborhood and everyone went out to watch it burn. People were crying. Nope, just checked, 1982. Here is a YouTube video I found about it. There are a couple others on that page.

    Dana

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    Halloweenie Render Drop:
    "Billy's Nightmare"

    Ahhhh! Poor Billy.

    Nice job!

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    M F M said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...Positiv-ly. as long everyone sticks to the Principal topic of the discourse and doesn't Bombarde me with a lot of questions.

    Oh dear... well I'm getting Bourdon thinking of going to sleep... put that in your Pipe and smoke it ;-).

    Just make sure you don't Pedal that stuff to the youngsters like Tjohn and DanaTA... or Richard and Chohole will put a Stop to it immediately (^_^)n


    :-P :-P :-P :-P

    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    tjohn said:
    Pipe down you two. If you don't see sharp you'll soon be flat. ;-)

    :-P :-P :-P :-P

    Dana

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    Sisca said:
    can a second monitor be at a different resolution?

    the parameters pallette.is swimmming in my vision. i was thinking maybe a 2nd monitor at lowest resolution. i don't know how the 2 monitors work. i have a HDMI out and VGA out, hoping that means i can use 2 monitors.

    You can usually use both HDMI & VGA outputs to drive different monitors.

    Yes they can be at different resolutions. I currently have 2 LCD monitors hooked up. The native resolution of my main one is 1920x1080 while the second one is running at 1680x1050.

    If you're using LCD monitors you really want to run them at their native resolution since that's where they'll look the sharpest. Though if you're having eye problems running one at a lower resolution to make things seem bigger my work for a while.


    Thanks. gonna give it a try.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    OHhhh in aviation speak wilco = will comply.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,522
    edited October 2013

    Here is a WIP on a scene I am working on. The lights are not the ones I want but putting lights in make the render take longer.

    forgot to attach render

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  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    Here is a WIP on a scene I am working on. The lights are not the ones I want but putting lights in make the render take longer.

    forgot to attach render

    That's a little creepy with the dead vines on the ground. Getting ready for Halloween? Is that a helicopter?

    Dana

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,522
    edited December 1969

    DanaTA said:
    Here is a WIP on a scene I am working on. The lights are not the ones I want but putting lights in make the render take longer.

    forgot to attach render

    That's a little creepy with the dead vines on the ground. Getting ready for Halloween? Is that a helicopter?

    Dana

    the helicopter is this http://www.daz3d.com/pc-anniversary-sale-week-1/aircraft-colo

    The gate is a Curious Passage. It is a Halloween render.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    i wany my Nyquil. advil starting to kick in a bit. it's raining out. would be a good night to take a taxi home.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    Here is a WIP on a scene I am working on. The lights are not the ones I want but putting lights in make the render take longer.

    forgot to attach render

    kewl! she had tatts.


    i started a Halloween render thread, but so far only one person seemed interested. maybe cuz there's no prizes.

    it was a nice glowy render, i don't know how to do that in poser. the advance ambient thingee for DS seems fun.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,522
    edited December 1969

    Here is a WIP on a scene I am working on. The lights are not the ones I want but putting lights in make the render take longer.

    forgot to attach render

    kewl! she had tatts.


    i started a Halloween render thread, but so far only one person seemed interested. maybe cuz there's no prizes.

    it was a nice glowy render, i don't know how to do that in poser. the advance ambient thingee for DS seems fun.

    I will post some renders there when I have a chance

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,260
    edited December 1969

    i wany my Nyquil. advil starting to kick in a bit. it's raining out. would be a good night to take a taxi home.

    It's raining there already? That means it will be here soon as well.

    Dana

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited December 1969

    its been sprinkling in Washington, D.C. / Baltimore area for the past six or seven hours.

  • M F MM F M Posts: 1,388
    edited December 1969

    its been sprinkling in Washington, D.C. / Baltimore area for the past six or seven hours.

    Sprinkles! (^_^)...
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