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The meaning of the word "armour"

murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,542
edited December 1969 in The Commons

armour |ˈɑːmə|(US armor )
noun [ mass noun ]
1 the metal coverings formerly worn to protect the body in battle: knights in armour | a suit of armour.
Source: Oxford Dictionary of English

For far too long, I've been cringing every time an ... outfit ... for female figures has been described using that word. And now, it's gotten even worse. One of the newest products in the store is an "armour" that provides less protection than the stereotypical chainmail bikini.

Seriously, can we stop doing this?

Please?

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  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,616
    edited December 1969

    Well Murgatroyd

    The whole armour problem isn't a problem if the assailant aims very carefully as to hit the metallic parts.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    tsarist said:
    Well Murgatroyd

    The whole armour problem isn't a problem if the assailant aims very carefully as to hit the metallic parts.

    Good point! :cheese:

    I don't disagree with your point in general, Murgatroyd, however, in this case, you also need to recognize that this particular "armor" is meant to be impractical since it clearly states that is inspired by the fantasy art of Vallejo, Bell or Frazetta. In this case it's not meant to be taken as serious armor, whereas much of the other armor you're referring to seem to have that expectation.

  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,542
    edited December 1969

    tsarist said:
    Well Murgatroyd

    The whole armour problem isn't a problem if the assailant aims very carefully as to hit the metallic parts.

    In this particular case, the assailant would have to achieve a level of accuracy usually reserved for the likes of Robin Hood.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    As a Frazetta, Vallejo fan I find the set to be perfect for those type renders. This is Fantasy after all. If you need Real "armor" for your renders they also exist in the store. This is sort of like saying I don't do zombie horror, why do they sell zombies?

  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,542
    edited September 2013

    Jaderail said:
    If you need Real "armor" for your renders they also exist in the store.

    Name three. Refitted male armour doesn't count.

    This is a systemic problem. I wouldn't object nearly as much if the non-protective armours weren't the vast majority.

    Post edited by murgatroyd314 on
  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited December 1969

    someone wanted links to real armor?

    Historical Armor for V4

    Kids 4 Armor

    Victoria's Plate Armor

    Legion for Genesis

    Joan of Arc for V3

    Joan of Arc for Stephanie Petite 3

    Celestial Armor

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Murgatroyd said:
    Name three. Refitted male armour doesn't count.

    This is a systemic problem. I wouldn't object nearly as much if the non-protective armours weren't the vast majority.

    I never said a word about Female or Male. Tip! in REAL life not many females wore armor of any type. So your still in fantasy if that is what your looking for. And the few famous women that did wear armor often wore custom sets made only for them or sets reworked from male sets. I'm just saying I understand the Artist doing the new set as it was done, fantasy sells far better than real in the 3D art world.
  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited September 2013

    Teen Josie 6!? This borderline pornographic thing is customized to a MINOR'S body shape!?

    Lovely... 8-/

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  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,460
    edited December 1969

    I haven't seen any previews of Teen Josie yet, so she could be 18 or 19 for all I know, but I'm sure we'll find out for definite in due course.

    Points already made, but since I'm here... the conventions of fantasy pin-up art were established long before most of the folk on this forum were even born. Even so, nobody is forced to comply with said conventions if they don't want to - there are alternate options available.

    In addition to items listed above, Betomelo's Celt 1 is also worth checking out... http://www.daz3d.com/age-of-warriors-celt-1-for-genesis

    Further to the armour in the DAZ store and if you're looking for Genesis-specific armour, SickleYield has a couple of full-plate suits in her Renderosity store, and there's also fantasy ranger armour for sale over at Xurge3d's store (and other armour sets too if including Gen4 figures).

    While these are male Genesis shapes in the attached image, I could just as easily have applied female shapes instead or fitted to G2F - these are made up of both SickleYield's armour sets and middle guy is also kit-bashed with cloak & breastplate from Celt1...

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  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,460
    edited December 1969

    While not full plate, a couple more Genesis items worth mentioning...

    Desert Paladin - http://www.daz3d.com/desert-paladin-for-genesis
    Caput Caseum - http://www.daz3d.com/caput-caseum
    Adventure Lord - http://www.daz3d.com/adventure-lord-for-genesis

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,638
    edited December 1969

    Seriously, can we stop doing this?

    No. Some of us like that sort of fantasy 'armor' and are just of sick of hearing people complain about it as you are sick of seeing it.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,064
    edited December 1969

    Just reminded me of this funny clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 1,582
    edited September 2013

    Murgatroyd said:

    Seriously, can we stop doing this?

    No.

    Post edited by pwiecek on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,512
    edited December 1969

    we need armour you can disarm for amourous activity
    after all Nekkid Vicky In A Temple With A Sword violates the TOS (unless it is a VERY BIG sword)

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,351
    edited December 1969

    wendy♥catz said:
    we need armour you can disarm for amourous activity
    after all Nekkid Vicky In A Temple With A Sword violates the TOS (unless it is a VERY BIG sword)

    or a strategically positioned Holy Symbol.

  • ArkathanArkathan Posts: 65
    edited December 1969

    Fantasy Armor uses MAGIC... Invisible magic to cover the "seemingly vulnerable" areas. In actuality, the armorer makes the whole set, but shifts a bit of it to the ethereal.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,512
    edited December 1969

    cue gratuitous NVIATWAS

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,512
    edited December 1969

    TOS compliant version

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,774
    edited December 1969

    SnowSultan said:
    Seriously, can we stop doing this?

    No. Some of us like that sort of fantasy 'armor' and are just of sick of hearing people complain about it as you are sick of seeing it.

    Exactly, thank you!!

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,672
    edited September 2013

    I do think at times it should open an Daz-Exotic store, where more mature and content can be sold.

    It would be great for those who are interested to find what they need, and for others who are interested in family friendly content to find what they are looking for.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 1,216
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, it's high time we discuss this new and pressing matter that threatens the very core of 3D art. Finally, after what feels like aeons of forced silence, someone has the balls to speak up about this.

    Dear PA's: Stop releasing stuff that some people don't like!

  • Eustace ScrubbEustace Scrubb Posts: 2,701
    edited December 1969

    I don't buy it, but I am not complaining that some folk do. It's relatively easy to make, and it sells and sells and sells all weekend long. But that is no more "armour" than it is a spacesuit. It's not even big enough to be a chastity belt. (Heaven forbid someone sell one of those vestal cuiraisses!) 8-/

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,774
    edited December 1969

    SereneNight said:
    I do think at times it should open an Daz-Exotic store, where more mature and content can be sold.

    I'm not particularly interested in skimpwear, outfits of this nature. It would be great for those who are interested to find what they need, and for others who are interested in family friendly content to find what they are looking for.

    LOL, from my POV this whole site is G rated. I would very much like a mature DAZ oriented store with full promo images and more diverse content.

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 3,670
    edited December 1969

    wendy♥catz said:
    TOS compliant version

    I like the reflection of the column on the shiny sword.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    FSMCDesigns said:
    SereneNight said:
    I do think at times it should open an Daz-Exotic store, where more mature and content can be sold.

    I'm not particularly interested in skimpwear, outfits of this nature. It would be great for those who are interested to find what they need, and for others who are interested in family friendly content to find what they are looking for.

    LOL, from my POV this whole site is G rated. I would very much like a mature DAZ oriented store with full promo images and more diverse content.

    There are sites that deal with that sort of stuff.

  • ghastlycomicghastlycomic Posts: 2,531
    edited December 1969

    Invincible I tells ya!

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  • EddyMI3DEddyMI3D Posts: 365
    edited September 2013

    The most effective Fantasy Armor is an Energy Shield - that appears in her fantasy...


    or


    Iron Man

    Post edited by EddyMI3D on
  • EmsimEmsim Posts: 234
    edited December 1969

    ghastlycomic said:
    Invincible I tells ya!

    lol! This is great!

  • EmsimEmsim Posts: 234
    edited December 1969

    wendy♥catz said:
    TOS compliant version

    This one cracked me up too!

  • SockrateaseSockratease Posts: 813
    edited December 1969

    I agree with the sentiment of the original post of this thread.

    There is FAR too much armour out there for wimmens.

    We need more armour for Cows!!

    How are they supposed to defend the farm against all those monsters without any protection for their udders??

    It's not fair.

    MOOO!!

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