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Wow! I love this render.
Dissing other people's preferences is not cool if you're on the majority side, either.
Also: Me, Murgatroyd and Fuseling. ;)
And me - no, wait, that makes four so one of the others must be a fifth columnist for the Skimpy Brigade.
You can add me to the list!
Besides... Just because armor is practical doesn't mean it can't be sexy. With careful design it is possible to merge both worlds in a tasteful manner. It just takes a bit more work, which is one of the reasons I'm not participating much in the forums these days. Very busy. ;-)
Dressing up or covering up, if done right, can be just as or even 'more sexy' then dressing down.or uncovering. Personally, I'm a fan of both forms of attire when done artistically, with style, and a good design sense.
I'm another who prefers practical to skimpy.
That said, skimpy armor doesn't bother me too much as long as it's honest about being skimpy for the sake of sex appeal. It's the almost practical except for the midriff cut-outs and the plunging neckline and/or boob plates that really bug me.
And if I'm doing something where skimpy armor is genre appropriate, well... then I usually have to scavenge around, since I so rarely buy the stuff. :)
<-- Yes! That! </p>
The ones that drive me nuts go like:
Pauldrons: check.
Heavy boots: check.
Gauntlets: check.
Awesome greaves: check.
Cuirass: Midriff-revealing steel corset.
At that point it's less like "I'll make a sexy armor!" and more like "I'll ruin a regular armor!" to me. Admittedly, sometimes I'll still buy it, because I can mix the heavier pieces with heavier pieces of my own or for e.g. bits of the Alruna set.
That's just asking for a headshot. lol
If people want pornwear-level armour, that's great, but I'm still really not cool with the fact that among the supported shapes for this is an underaged youth...
And no, I highly doubt that Josie is going to be a young adult teen, because 18-19 isn't really "teen" in marketing. When clothing stores have "teen" demographic clothing, it's aimed at high school age youths, like around 15 - 17.
Bathing suits and even bikinis are more conservative than that product. And swimwear is meant to be revealing for the purpose of solar exposure on the skin.
A piece of armour is not meant to reveal, but conceal. And while that is all fine and sexy for adults, and let's face it that is the ONLY reason why this piece is designed the way it is. It should not, no matter what one's artistic opinion is, sexually objectify a non-consentable young female. Yes, I'm well aware that everywhere in the world has different standards of age of consent. I'm in New England, Massachusetts, USA. Our Commonwealth's AOC is legally 16, but universally the nation's AOC is 18. Other countries have their own, of course, some higher, others lower. But internationally, the average consensus appears to be around the 18 mark.
You sure about that? Go google string bikinis, take a look at the bandaid sized cups most of them have, and tell me if you still have that opinion. ;)
It's armour for the busy modern woman who doesn't let a little thing like medieval total war interfere with maintaining her tan.
And we got a new one - Loft, aka the Xena warrior princess ripoff http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/lofn Makes me wonder why these ladies aren't worried about a gladius in their belly.
Wow! I love this render.
I've posted a slightly larger version of it over here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/353/P45/
I work with a lot of college students. Quite a few could pass for middle school students.
While we fully understand the concern at having a teen shape in a suit of very skimpy armour, the discussion is moving into areas that we feel are inappropriate for the forums.
I agree to Richard,
particularly the rules concerning this topic are much more strict in the US than in the most countries in Europe.
But no one is able to look into the head of another person, will say, the minds and thought are free. Those are the realms of fantasy. That is the realm for the reason we are here and play with dolls, sorry, with content, thats the reason we have fun with RPGs, etc.
Sadly some people loose the borders of their fantasy worlds and the real world. At this point it begins to become serious.
I think, one of the finest creations is the human being in it's natural appearance.
But for most people this is also the most delicate thing in the -real- world,
so it needs a lot of sensitivity to handle this.
I hope you can follow my thoughts because I'm not genuine English writer.
Eddy
True, I know a couple of women in their 30s that do a lot of running - without seeing their faces, you'd swear they were teenagers.
But there's a place for it all; the serious, the trivial, the conservative, the sensuous, the horrific, the humourous, the realistic, the abstract, the tasteless and even the offensive too... it's art for goodness sake - one does not supercede the other, it's all a matter of personal preference.
But if there's one thing you should take away from today's sermon brothers & sisters, it's this - when it comes down to matters of personal taste and opinion... just remember that I'm always right :lol: :lol: :lol:
Won't somebody think of the digital children?
...and i wish someone would do a proper red Sonja outfit, i am tired of kit bashing.
...and i wish someone would do a proper red Sonja outfit, i am tired of kit bashing.Yeah, I asked a couple of times regarding a mail loincloth with proper movement controls, but no takers - always the simpler bikini bottom (simpler as in no movement morphs required). I've almost been tempted to try and make one myself, but if vendors avoid it, maybe it's too difficult for a beginner like me.
You forgot high heel steel boots ;-)
Skimpy armour is not my cuppa tea either, but hey it is somebodies, no I'm not going to grumble about it. :P
I'm just gonna echo the previous suggestions of using a bodysuit under the skimpy armour. It's surprisingly effective.
Here's a render I did a while back. The armour usually has a lot of exposed skin (arms and armpits especially), so I used one of the SuperSuit chainmail shaders on the exposed skin-groups to make the armour look more practical. I then used one of the leather supersuit presets on her hands to make it look like she had gloves.
You'll never know until you try -- and it'll be one heckuva way to introduce yourself to the perils and challenges of making a rigged piece (>_<). You may of course wish to start with something slightly simpler (unless you're the sort that doesn't get discouraged easily ^_^)... perhaps her shoulder guards (that I've seen a variety of artistic depictions, but very few jointed rigged versions), or even simpler her usual floppy leather boots with the little tie below the knee. The goal is an eminently worthy one - I'd suggest you should at least try; even if you fail you'll gain all that experience that you (or others) may be able to build upon ;-).</p>
You forgot high heel steel boots ;-)
If they're weapon-grade steel and stiletto heels, that's simply two more weapons in her kit... :-)
And I work with a woman who's less than 5' tall and has a slim build. She also has teenaged children.
Not every woman is a 5'11" busty V4-style supermodel. Sometimes you need the more petite body forms to reflect reality.
I'm with you on this. I know the skimpy armor sells. My husband buys a lot of it. ;-)
I don't get fussed about the chainmail bikinis. They are selling a fantasy, an escape. It's all good.
What does annoy me more than anything though is the really covered up, stylish, yet practical and protected outfits that have a diamond shaped hole in the chest to show off cleavage. That is like painting a bull's-eye right over the heart, and just begging for an arrow.
Personally I don't care about the nudity - I'm more concerned with the usability of things. Swimwear can be skimpy (however I personally prefer swimming nude) but warwear is supposed to protect the user. And even paradewear shouldn't be that skimpy. It should rather be blinged up with medals of honor and stuff. :-)
Ok, everyone does know that the Picts, Gauls and Celts all went into battle at times totally naked other then war paint, correct? Many tribal groups did of course, but the reason I bring these up is that they would do it side-by-side with others of their own group who wore armour, and against armoured foes (for an extended period in history.) There is also a belief that less armour meant less risk of infection from battle wounds, the number one killer in many battles throughout history. As for agility, well there was "A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse!"
You sure about that? Go google string bikinis, take a look at the bandaid sized cups most of them have, and tell me if you still have that opinion. ;)
Well, that bit was partially with a bit of facetious sarcasm. Still, I'm glad you pointed that out. :)
Trust me when I say, yes I know. I'm getting upset over a pixilated doll. But like I said before, your mind can have as much artistic freedom in the world for all it's worth, there's a line that's drawn when children come into the picture (literally), not just any moral line, a LEGAL line. It doesn't matter if it's possible for your grandmother to look like she could be the lead cheerleader at the homecoming dance, when you create an article of clothing that is deliberately designed to sexually objectify the body, and then you go ahead and openly customize it to properly fit a body shape that is explicitly labeled as "Teen", a mid-pubescent youth, you are then consciously creating supported access for those of legally intolerable intent to, in-turn, create and share illegal visual material.
I'm sorry, but as much as I hate being a PC whistle blower, I don't like the idea of DAZ 3D treading on risky grounds with the law. One of the reasons why I like it here at DAZ is because, while skimpy and seductive as it's art and products are, this place and community is pretty decent and tame.
I take it you haven't seen band members with skirts so short they barely cover the derriere in weather that defies that type of costume?
I may get my face bitten off by the NDA gods for saying this, but if it will perhaps ease any minds, it may be worth this deliberately-devoid-of-details mention: having seen the Josie shape, it is absolutely not a 'this is a young child/clearly underage girl' body shape, and would be very well-suited to college age women of voting age or even older women with less dramatic oomph in the curves department than V6.