If you would design a core character and bundle, what would it be?

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  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    yeah a lot of people want highly derivative stuff based on popular games, movies etc

    the encroaching on someome's intellectual property rather than lack of skills from PA's is what is stopping that!

    fan art is popular but original art is more creative IMO

    Well, to be fair, there is a clear precedent here: https://www.daz3d.com/sylvian-wind-warrior-bundle

    Apparently derived from: https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Sylvanas_Windrunner

    I doubt DAZ would have allowed it if it was not legally backed, because the company who owns the intellectual rights does not look at such things too kindly, unless done for non-profit purposes - as fanart. Their lawyers would have already been knocking on DAZ's door, I think.

     

    On topic - I would love to see some Elder Scrolls themed bundles - recreation of the Minotaur 6 and Reptilian 6 as Generation 8 core figures, preferably changing the Reptilian from a digitigrade to a plantigrade. The Minotaur 6 would just need some refreshing, I guess. Both would need more outfits and armours. The Reptilian would need some horns, spines, and such too.

    I would love to see a Mer bundle from the same universe - High Elves, Dark Elves, Wood Elves. That could be one core figure, with additional character morphs. Maybe even as add-ons for the bundle, like an Alt-core figure, like with Alawa 8. I really like that add-on.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,646
    edited May 2020

    I think we might actually be differing widely on what we mean by fan art here.

    Most are using a much broader definition than what I was.

    FWIW, I knew what you meant all along. But I would say the rules tend to be malleable.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    yeah a lot of people want highly derivative stuff based on popular games, movies etc

    the encroaching on someome's intellectual property rather than lack of skills from PA's is what is stopping that!

    fan art is popular but original art is more creative IMO

    I like Pixars tick cartoony 3D style, they don't own it, it's a style; literally every one of their competitors uses it too, same for games and tv animation.

    I'm good with realism and like it a lot, but I'd also like to do something for the kids, some cartoony work in a style they like but there aren't a lot of options for it (just 3D Universe, who does beautiful work). We can make realistic dragons and all, but not fluffy bears and cuddly monsters.

    ....yeah I was able to get pretty close to it:

     

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ...the reason I only listed a potential Cat 8 Bundle (besides wanting an updated more realistic cat) is due to the fact that since the introduction G8 there has been a veritable glut of new human like "core" characters (and that's not even taking into account all the individual standalone characters for G8 and the core ones which have been released), far more than for any other Genesis iterations. It seems the gamut from an infant to elderly characters had been run, which leaves me wondering what more is there left? 

    Yeah, A pixar inspired toon bundle, maybe (there are already several such individual characters. one that so much resembles Elastigirl from the Incredibles)

    Themed "add on" bundles like cyberpunk, sports, historical military, and sci-fi for what we already have makes better sense.

  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926

    Plastic Man, Elongated Man, Mr. Fantastic, Mrs. Incredible, Stretch Armstrong. -- basically a stretchy superhero with flexible limbs somehow. Costumes, bizarre poses, etc.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ..now that would be different. Hate to have to rig the clothing though.

  • novastridernovastrider Posts: 208
    edited May 2020
    kyoto kid said:

    yeah a lot of people want highly derivative stuff based on popular games, movies etc

    the encroaching on someome's intellectual property rather than lack of skills from PA's is what is stopping that!

    fan art is popular but original art is more creative IMO

    I like Pixars tick cartoony 3D style, they don't own it, it's a style; literally every one of their competitors uses it too, same for games and tv animation.

    I'm good with realism and like it a lot, but I'd also like to do something for the kids, some cartoony work in a style they like but there aren't a lot of options for it (just 3D Universe, who does beautiful work). We can make realistic dragons and all, but not fluffy bears and cuddly monsters.

    ....yeah I was able to get pretty close to it:

     

    hahaha seeing her T-Pose reminds me of those great animation blooper clips they released once. Love them

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    PS: regarding the comment on the top of this page: Blizzard doesn't like it when people rip their models from their games and rightfully so, their designers created the assets and their EULA doesn't allow it. That's why they could easily take action a few times (although they've kinda given up trying to stop it because it kinda benefits them, it's a complex matter). But that's more on the XNLARA, or whatever it was called, crowd, that's a whole different beast. Sylvian is inspired by, but is very clearly it's own distinguishable design, which is the core of ip law and why it can be sold without question. It would be different if Mous and Lind released just models based on the same game and advertised it as such, that's when you cross into copycat territory and loose the distinguishable argument. The Witcher models were kind of an exception because their publisher is pretty okay with it (helps they are not an American company).

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Time travelers. The outfits in styles of four different decades (or centuries). Hair that matches a couple of them. 

  • almahiedraalmahiedra Posts: 1,353

    MimicMolly, I'd totally buy that bundle.

    Me too. Valentino 8 is somewhat close though, but I want "fancy". I've managed to doodle these outfits at work, just in case people need some visualization for this cobbled up "Fairy Tale Prince" theme. 

    I need this bundle NOW! 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    kyoto kid said:

    yeah a lot of people want highly derivative stuff based on popular games, movies etc

    the encroaching on someome's intellectual property rather than lack of skills from PA's is what is stopping that!

    fan art is popular but original art is more creative IMO

    I like Pixars tick cartoony 3D style, they don't own it, it's a style; literally every one of their competitors uses it too, same for games and tv animation.

    I'm good with realism and like it a lot, but I'd also like to do something for the kids, some cartoony work in a style they like but there aren't a lot of options for it (just 3D Universe, who does beautiful work). We can make realistic dragons and all, but not fluffy bears and cuddly monsters.

    ....yeah I was able to get pretty close to it:

     

    hahaha seeing her T-Pose reminds me of those great animation blooper clips they released once. Love them

     

    ...actually watched the video that outlined the process for creating her hair as I was going to attempt it with Garibaldi (which is now the built in Strand Based Hair Tool).

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,121

    A decent kitsune couple with lots of Japanese items, including some Sakura blossoms.

    Yes!  I really like, and purchased, the Acicia character, but I would always go for more Fox-Spirit characters male and female, both Zenko (the good Kitsune, followers of the Rice-God Inari) and the Yako/nogitsune, the "wild foxes" who can be mischievous or downright bad.  Also assets (either as a bundle or separate) to identify them as Huli Jing (Chinese) or Kumiho (Korean), which would probably be primarily native outfits.  A wolf-spirit variant would be great too.

    I have wondered whether Acicia is more based on the Nogitsune or the Huli Jing, she is described as a "Fox-Pixie" which conveys her nature without having to go deep into folklore.

    Folklore tells that if it is raining while the sun is shining, there is a Kitsune wedding taking place.  That could be a good theme.

     

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    edited May 2020
    xyer0 said:

    Yanshi 8 - Why would we ask a man of few words to describe himself? He suffers no fools.

    But if you catch his eye, beware: His smile* has slain as many as his sword. *(more of a smirk, really)

    54+ Ideas Fashion Black Male Character Inspiration For 2019 #fashion

    OH yes, I would totally buy this!!  All of it!

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  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992

    In terms of humans, I'd love to see something Viking/Norse inspired. I know we got Vlad (not sure who his female counterpart was), but the "Viking" clothes that dropped with them were... :/

    I'd like to see pretty much anything in terms of costume and set design that you'd see in the show Vikings on The History Channel. Not just that one Ragnarific hair style. Like actual warrior braids. Yusssss. Proper leathers, plate, and scale...for both men and women (No. Boob. Plate.).

    Oh that reminds me... I don't really need more characters but would like to see a combo bundle of both male and female clothes from the Hulu TV show "Salem." There was an interview about costume design for the show and it was really fascinating how wardrobe was designed for three distinct characters coming from different classes and how each costume fit the character's personality. They don't have the Puritan type clothes (at least in season 1) but I would like to see that too and also period hair and sets from the Salem Witch trial days. But I have enough characters and morphs already. But wardrobe, hair & sets from that time would be amazing! 

    Actually more historical bundles in general. I'd also like to see clothes, hair, sets from the French Revolution time, both upscale ala Marie Antoinette, the bourgeoisie middle class and also the peasants as well as sets and props from that time, both upscale and downscale. The same for the American South circa "Gone With The Wind" times! 

     

    I agree with you about historic clothing.  I want realistic and based on fact (or at least portraits) and not popular (cough, cough, Party City) opinion, e.g. corsets were NOT outerwear!  And dForce that works (no melting buckles), doesn't conform to the body underneath it like spandex, more people that look like real people.  Oh yeah, I am feeling the lack of a good sailing ship.  I bought Valentino only to realize that the HMS Victory was impossibly lo-res.

  • sandmanmaxsandmanmax Posts: 992
    Tercel said:

    If I were to design a bundle I would love for it to be along the lines of literary character and pop culture folks with outfits and hair pulled from The Lord Of the Rings, characters reminiscent of Brian Froud's artwork, the Prince and his trappings from the second Hellboy movie, an Alfred Pennyworth fellow with matching outfits, tea service complete with soup, sandwiches, and bottle of pain killers for his employer, and a Sherlock Holmes and Watson duo aging from young and limber, to older and frayed with clothes to match the decades - and of course figures like the Morrigan, the Banshee, Hera in a peacock themed ensemble, I could go on and on . . .

     

    I love Brian Froud's work and would grab a character pack in a heart-beat.  The "character" bundles are my favorites and anything unique and different goes in my cart.  I look at it as DNA, something I can mix and match with what I've already got.  You've listed a lot of really great options.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,614
    edited May 2020

    just watched a video on schizophrenia, don't do that after reading a thread on this forum, then returning, it's scary, it's all changed

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    Frankenstein laboratory. Just look at the original movie for reference. Would need an evil assistant. Body parts in jars. Vintage horror props. The "horror rooms" currently available in the store lack robust details and only a few props. If it were a bundle there would be extra rooms such as a library and study.

  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    mwokee said:

    Frankenstein laboratory. Just look at the original movie for reference. Would need an evil assistant. Body parts in jars. Vintage horror props. The "horror rooms" currently available in the store lack robust details and only a few props. If it were a bundle there would be extra rooms such as a library and study.

    ooo! I could definitely be interested in this!!  ESPECIALLY if the various scene creators coordinated on the *style* of the scenes so that they actually looked like they were all part of the same 'castle' / lab / manor!!

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633
    edited May 2020

    Someone already mentioned a prehistoric bundle, I would love that as well. My second suggestion would be a early cinema / theatre inspired bundle

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The bundle would include :

    - either a 50s inspired G8F / G8M.
    - A light kit for 50s style photography.
    - A stage for singing or cabaret, or early TV show
    - A car from the period
    - A movieset street from the 50s
     

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  • backgroundbackground Posts: 430

    I would like to see a bundle based on parts  of Oliver Twist. Victorian slums, urchin outfits, beggar outfits,  maybe a workhouse. The film/movie 'Oliver' could be used for inspiration. It could fit in well with Stonemason's existing 'Streets of old London' . The outfits could also be useful for post apocalypse scenarios. 

  • I like some arts like Rawart about Non-human. So I want Dazstudio to create Bundle :   Liontaur 8 、 Drider 8、 Leopard 8.....  Half human half anothers.

  • mmkdazmmkdaz Posts: 335

    Hmm..Lets see. What would I design? Perhaps a Jon Wick bundle. Would include the base character, poses, suit, two hairstyles and beard, a fantasy costume (sci-fi, western, alt, anthing) underwear, and a prop (car, weapons), and one or two user choice add-on characters/textures..

    On the female side..perhaps a Misty Knight bundle. Would be a ethic character base, poses, two Ethnic/Cultural hairstyles, causal outfit/dress, underwear/bikini, fatasy costume (sci-fi, comic, ect), and props, and one or two user choice add-on characters/textures.

     

  • Fae3DFae3D Posts: 2,642

    I would love to see official mermaid/merman figures, with geografts made such that you could change the base skins to others you already have.  Tails need to be colorful and scaled, except for maybe a couple that are supposed to look like shark or orca fins.  Bold makeup for both.  Arm and back fins, too!

    Mermaid fashion could be really beautiful, flowy tops with a lot of pearls and shells, and maybe even a coral crown.  Merman could have flowy clothes too, but also some crustacean-based armor (come to think of it, make that for the mermaid as well!).  Hair would be rigged to look upside-down and really loose so that it looks like it's floating.  The dude could have a shark fin-looking mohawk, since Daz seems to love mohawks.

    Include a chariot that would work with that merhorse Daz Horse add-on they made, since apparently we can do vehicles in pro bundles now (not complaining about that at all!).  Lots of swimming poses, and maybe a pose set that includes some pretty seashell furniture as props.  Heck, make me a seashell and coral palace to go with it!

    Ah, I can dream!

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,564
    edited August 2020
    Paintbox said:

    Someone already mentioned a prehistoric bundle, I would love that as well. My second suggestion would be a early cinema / theatre inspired bundle

    The bundle would include :

    - either a 50s inspired G8F / G8M.
    - A light kit for 50s style photography.
    - A stage for singing or cabaret, or early TV show
    - A car from the period
    - A movieset street from the 50s

     

    I needed to buy a few cars for a project I was doing and you can buy cars from the 40s/50s from several sites. That are usually .obj files so you'll need to spend time Iraying them.

    Now I've finished the project they're just sitting around doing nothing.... like Jay Leno's car collection. At least they won't rust.

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  • Alley RatAlley Rat Posts: 397

    I would love a 1930s cartoon bundle. A pair like Honey and Bosko, or Betty Boop and Bimbo. I would love IK-based noodly arms and legs (similar to Finn the Human and what inspired that style) and an animation cycle set for walks, runs, etc. (Maybe the real arms and legs could be scaled to zero for this add-on of replacement limbs). Simple lattice deformers in DAZ Studio to make even the buildings move (like in the Futurama parody). The way those cartoons are drawn, it could almost be a snap together kit for the characters. This would allow for silly gags like the face getting rearranged after an explosive prank, for example. I would love a cartoon piano that would take a MIDI file and "play" the keys, maybe even a cartoon character script to move the hand targets and fingers ("Goopy Geer! Goopy Geer!"). There could be a Halloween pack (maybe two, with a second in the Beistle style) for stuff like "Skeleton Dance" or "Betty Boop's Hallowe'en Party". Food for "Cookie Carnival". Maybe a pack of stick-on eyes, mouths, arms, and legs (all morphing and rigged) to anthropomorphize anything. I originally came here to say I would love to be able to recreate Springfield, and that's still true, so maybe some modern stuff too in a style halfway between Matt Groening's and the "rubber hose" (I forget the proper name) style. BUT I don't just want normal cartoon stuff in this style. I would love to see Toontown Public Restrooms..hahah.. or the greasy 24-diner in the red light district where everyone in Toontown goes to eat after the midnight showing of Rocky Horror Cartoon Show lets out. I am dying to make cartoons and I keep flipping between actually drawing them out (to find my style, so that I can model it in 3D and go from there) and just playing with 3D content to get close enough to the general feel but missing the mark on specific visual style.

  • Alley RatAlley Rat Posts: 397

    I would also love to see a way to make 4-legged humans (except the legs are all human legs). I know how this would work in theory, and I'm about to test it in realtime 3D with snap-on body parts and a custom IK rig where the left and right leg swap animations with each successive pair of legs to get something akin to a quadruped, hexapod, etc. Multiple arms would be cool too, but that seems trickier to pull off well where with legs you could basically attach a 2nd person starting from just below their ribcage.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2020

    Victoria 9? laugh

    Mostly:

     

    I'd like a stylized male figure ala Tom of Finland. With proportions and everything else to match

     

    Hey... I'd love for there to be Tom of Finland fetish bear bundle on the G8M side, plus a less-conservative/return-to-Genesis-2-attitude Lilith 8.

    Those would pair well together. (Well, except for Tom of Finland being totally homosexual, NTTAWWT.)

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  • SempieSempie Posts: 658
    edited August 2020

    There are several cultural groups hardly to not represented yet.

    Scientists.

    The homeless.

    Several subcultures from the past.

    Rastafarians, Teddy Boys, Rude Boys, Glam Rockers, New Romantics (think Culture Club / Boy George), Ravers, etc.

    And yes, classic American cartoon style (Disney/Pixar) is lacking. It's mosty stuck in semi-realism, with very weird proportions, which I find creepy rather than appealing.

     

    Some realistic historical garb instead of cosplay party stuff would be nice for a change as well.....

    The same goes for hair styles. REAL medieval hairdos, anyone...?

     

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,614

    you have seen tapestries? medieval hair was awful

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,058

    More average non model characters, like a computer nerd.

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    This is a time I wish this forum did have some way to like posts! I love the idea's presented. Mermaid and merman, Oliver Twist, cultural groups we haven't seen presented before.

    And thats a great suggestion @fred9803 , thank you.

     

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