Angharad 8
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Wow, already another pro bundle?
Her head looks way too big for her body and only the Tasha body mix looks normal to me but her abs look weird. Still looking over the bundle. Once again, not impressed by the DO, but Daenestra by Jessaii is gorgeous!
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And three of the four outfits actually have shoes (well, boots) that someone could walk in. Most of the getups have enough pieces to make them potentially useful for kitbashing, anyway.
Not impressed with the hair being only Iray. That's for sure.
Not a bad base morph, although there are others I've liked better. I do like the add-on characters in the bundle. One of those is also Iray only, but I'm more likely to just convert a character skin. Hair is trickier, although there are at least a v=couple of shader packs which will give me at least a basic 3DL version to work from.
If someone brought out a realistic set of 3DL hair shaders, it would hit the cart so fast there'd be skidmarks.
She looks quite short and stocky, which I find interesting. It's the sort of morph I'd like to dial in, in varying degrees. Makeups don't do anything for me (i am over that winged eyeliner/eyeshadow style), but I'd like to see some renders here to get a better judge of her skin.
I really like the Ninian outfit particularly the design of the boots.
"Angharad" is a celtic name, I think? Welsh perhaps? I see the celtic "influence" in the name of the "Ninian" outfit and of course..."highlands range" outfit. I think "Cerian" for the Cerian NObility outfit is from the Welsh too. Of course, I don't see a celtic and/or welsh influence in the designs of the outfits or characters, but who cares - I never see a pro bundle as a "only this genre" type thing. Just found it interesting in the naming.
More than ever, this bundle looks like something I bought a thousand times before. I'll pass this offer.
The makeup drives me nuts. But at least we got one clean face promo. Yeah, the body is a more distinctive morph than the face, but she does look like she mixes well.
I like big heads, and I cannot lie.
No purple banner, but the deal seems in line with expectations if you get 4 add-ons.
I guess I'll wait until morning to see if a banner pops up.
I'm still absorbing Daisy. A whole new Fantasy figure? Kind of strange, but the clothing looks good and functional.
That's what I first noticed too - which is great. Although I do think the Ninian outfit boots are the best designed and most interesting looking ones - the other two look very...bland and kinda..."cyclinder for shin/leg and flat half cyclinder for foot" type (if you get what I mean)
Daenestra for Angharad 8 is really cute! I just wish there was an option for regular painted brows. If there was, I would have bought the product.
Daenestra for Angharad 8
https://www.daz3d.com/daenestra-for-angharad-8
This could be most unpronounceable bundle so far! I get the theme, but, geez.
Her skin looks off. Like the normal and bumps are way too high, and it just doesn't look right. Daisy has more realistic skin, and she's supposed to be the fairy.
The EXzela hair looks nice, its about the only item that peaks any interest for me. Though Daenestra (these names are wack) is nice, too. EXzela is elegant, yet still practical hair, and looks better than most dforce hairs. However in this promo pic here you can see it is conforming to something it shouldn't be, which I thought dforce was supposed to prevent from happening.
That might be something that could be dialed out, I don't know. This hair lists no regular morphs, so its strictly dforce only. That is a serious drawback in my book, as I like the utility of being able to just use it without dforce sometimes. One thing though, the promos of Angharad for EXzela are much more appealing than the promos on her own product page, so maybe there is hope for her.
The offer is ok, its basically a repeat of Daisy's, and I am guessing the purple banner will also repeat Daisy's. But this model looks much weaker overall. Some of the bundle items prop her up slightly, but I feel like I have seen these outfits before.
Buyer fatigue is setting in. You are playing a dangerous game Daz.
Not to be controversial and I know this goes against what a lot of people like, but I really prefer high heels and sexier outfits that show some skin. I don't even see a way of taking off layers to make these outfits more sexy or a way to add height to the boots. Truth is the only thing I really like is the long hair and Daenestra who I LOVE! I wish I could get her without Angharad.
No purple banner unless you bought a new release yesterday. $10 off if you did. Got mine just waiting for checkout to honor the 5 gen 8 fig discounts
I guess this is another bundle for the fans of the much trodden world of brown leather wearing flat foot "realism". Which means I can't really see a single item that visually appeals to me.
But, not every bundle is meant for everyone!
As someone of Afro-Welsh ancestry, i have to ask what is hard about Ang (as in sang) plus Har (like hard without the d) plus ad (like add): Ang Har Ad. It means "much loved one".
It's probably hard if you're a monolingual American
I'm in the Daenestra is cute camp, too.
I like her but I can't shake the feeling I've already seen a character way too similar. Off the top of my head she looks like a younger Sydney 8 or like her daughter, something like that.
Considering she's supposed to be some sort of "action character" I would have liked a bit more muscle definition, but the big legs seem to be about right. Of course, being able to just dial some morphs makes that point moot, but just saying.
I'll probably get her because I do love Jessaii characters, the clothing seems nice enough for fantasy/action stuff and I'd like to take advantage of the 10$ off deal. But yeah, I agree, buyer's fatigue is pretty much in. After this I don't think I'll get anything else unless I really like it (like Lilith 8
)
I'll pass this bundle as well. Makeup options are not a seller for me. Also the clothes too fantasy like. The hair is somehow fancy and I would not use it often.
In general I like realistic skin with wrinkles based on normals and bump. You can always dial them down, if they are too strong. Nevertheless the promos do not show a detailed skin.
Still love Alexandra 8 for the skin.
I'll pass this bundle as well not only because of characters but also hairs and outfits – except dForce EXzela Long Hair.
For me the outfits are too simple and/or unnatural thick.
Daisy’s stuff was much more filigree.
And there is no special discount for owner of many pro bundles.
I have a friend named Angharad who is Welsh, and as a Scot with family in Ireland who has never heard the name Angharad in either country, at least in the modern era this is definitely a Welsh name rather than a Celtic one. And it's a gorgeous name!!
Like most Welsh names.
And in my eyes she is very Welsh looking, too, which is nice. I love her skin textures, although the eye textures don't quite match in terms of realism aaaaaaand I am also starting to get a bit bored with the matte-looking perfectly whiter than white teeth of the Daz core characters... but I'm sure there are plenty of people who like them like this so *shrug*
With the super generous Purple Banner, this pro bundle is only $29 for me so I definitely intend to buy it with the +4 add-ons at only $47 because the add-on offer is great and we finally have a NEW CROP of DOs to chose from. Woot! Thank you Daz folk :D The only decision for me is whether to purchase today to get rendering ASAP, or wait to see whether the "free" DOs get discounted further later in the week to get the most "bang for the buck" so to speak.
This has been my only feedback thought re the pro bundle offers with "$x free DO" content -- if you're super keen and buy early, which is presumably what Daz want us to do lol, you can actually end up being disadvantaged when extra discounts and/or coupons come later in the week. Bit of an odd one from a marketing perspective in my mind, as it sort of encourages people not to buy on day of release...
Well, tested her a bit and to my surprise her skin has some scars that in my opinion are not very clear on the promos and look great. Perfect for warriors and rogue characters. Also, I had trouble trying to make her smile and actually look happy xD. But I have a headache and need sleep so I'll try her out properly later =_=
It's a shame both hairs are dforce hairs, don't care about those. (though the Angharad Hair doesn't seem to actually have dforce applied, it's still the strand based hair that likes to hog a ton of memory)
The Welsh, especially in western and north Wales do tend to identify as being of celtic descent. In fact my late welsh husband's father used to boast that Scots dodn't have the edge on meaness, you have never met a mean person till you have met a mean Welshman.
Celts in Britain today
I totally love the bad/mean girl appearance on the main page promo with the flames. Could be an evil queen or similar. This is great!
Unfortunately the rest seems like a rush to me. The main character promos are mostly on the same boring background and don't drive my fantasy like the different scenarios of Sahiras character promos. Skin-bumpmap looks way too strong to me, but that might be an easy fix.
Overall I just have the feeling that 2 weeks is a too fast release cycle for pro bundles. Artists almost have no time to put in the required love to create a superior product, a pro bundle should be.
+ Due to the PC+ Sale I've already run out of money. So I gotta skip if the offer doesn't get that much better, that I can't hold me back anymore. *lol*.
Oh, the Welsh are DEFINITELY Celts in my mind alongside my Scottish countrymen and cousins the Irish
My meaning was that the name Angharad isn't common in Scotland and Ireland (although we have plenty of Siobhans and Aoifes), so while it might have its origins as broadly Celtic, today I'd say it's predominantly only used in Wales. But also it might be a Welsh language name, e.g never common outside of Wales. I really don't know on that score!
LOL at the meanness comment from your late husband's father! That's brilliant! Although TBH I've actually never met a particularly mean Scottish person, and we have been "voted" multiple times as the friendliest people in Europe, so I'm not sure how we gained that reputation! We also have the reputation of meanness with money, e.g being spend-thrift, but that's definitely a characterisation I've never noticed haha and is evidenced by how infrequently you'll actually pay for your own drinks on a night out in Glasgow
There is one presenter on Radio Wales that has been heard to say that a West Walian (he is west walian) needs to have an anthaesthetic before taking the wallet out
I went out with a Welshman when I was 21. He was an absolute stereotype: he was tall, dark and handsome, worked as a miner and had that beautiful "sing-song" Welsh lilt from the Valleys. However, when he'd speak on the phone with his brother his accent became so thick and fast I literally had no idea what he was saying!! Haha! And I have family from the Isle of Skye who's first language is Gaelic, so that's saying something haha.
And going back to Angharad, The name dates back to the Mabinogion and translates as "Much loved"
And a healthy dose of open curiosity
I have a super difficult to pronounce surname and honestly America is the place where I tend to get a friendly and respectful, "Oh interesting -- how is that pronounced?" rather than in the U.K where people tend to awkwardly gloss over it and take great steps not to have to try and say it out loud haha.
I do get what you mean, but I'd add 'asking/researching how to pronounce it' (and even then, quite a few languages will have sounds someone who didn't grow up speaking that language is unlikely (not impossible, just unlikely) to be able to make)