Announcing The Platinum Club Plus [Beta] Program
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I haven't purchased a single Platinum Club item since I stupidly click on and agreed to the Platinum Club Plus program, and on August 1st, I'm switching back.
Just to tell you that at least one person does agree with you...
21 days and counting.
Just to reiterate, everyone in the PC+ revert back automatically, so you yourself wont have to do anything.
Since joining the Platinum Club Plus Beta program I can happily say I no longer have the need to attend the DAZaholics Anonymous meetings! By the end of the month, I will have this spending habit licked! Feeling hopeful ;)
I am not trying to cause any trouble or disagreements - I just want to say that in spite of me not have purchased anything (yet) since I switched to the PC+, I have seen the benefit of it for when I do have extra cash available to spend. Right now, my cart even has some of this week's PC items. I just needed to trim it a little to be able to use only the store credit I had from previous, RL issues curtailing my expected spending again. ::sigh::
At the 50% turning point of the Beta, I've tried to buy as if the PC+ is the permanent thing. Only this way, I can see how it affects my buying habits.
What I can say for myself is that I bought less new PC+ items. What I bought was the "basic" version, like the Piratess, and the Piratess hair, but not the additional texture packages.
I put the texture packages on the wish list, even though I know they will be more expensive. The idea was to wait until they drop out of the 79%, and wait until they are eligble for the discount coupon, so I get them free. In addition, many of the PC+ items did not make it to my wishlist at all.
I saved a lot on stackings of the PC+ discounts for PAs in combination with a sales discount, for some items that were on my wish list.
Overall, the amount of money I spent for the PC+ items, compared to what I spend on PC items did not change significantly. I got less PC+ items in comparision to the number of PC items I would have bought, but bought more PA+ items.
I'm pretty much divided over how I feel about the PC+ in the Beta shape, to be honest.
EXACTLY.
But with so many sales, I just felt overwhelmed with the overall CLUTTER of the sales page and stopped surfing it. They need to get focused and have one or two sales maximum for three days, then go to another one, etc.
As Jack said upthread, that's actually our forum joining date — and it's not reliable. A small but significant number of people have "impossible" joining dates, usually either "0" or the calendar start date of the computer system DAZ uses.
What Jack didn't say is that the actual PC joining dates stored in our My Account pages, are almost completely unreliable — when we changed over to the new store software, there was a period of nearly a year when membership renewals had to be done manually because the automatic renewal system had many similarities to a fine Swiss clock (yes, it regularly went "cuckoo"... and so did many PC members).
I think now pretty much all old-time PC members have a "starting" date of about a year ago, which is the point when the whole system finally collapsed like a cheap (original!) Godzilla movie special effect, and DAZ had to give every member "today" as their starting date. There just isn't any reliable record any more before that point.
As Jack said upthread, that's actually our forum joining date — and it's not reliable. A small but significant number of people have "impossible" joining dates, usually either "0" or the calendar start date of the computer system DAZ uses.
What Jack didn't say is that the actual PC joining dates stored in our My Account pages, are almost completely unreliable — when we changed over to the new store software, there was a period of nearly a year when membership renewals had to be done manually because the automatic renewal system had many similarities to a fine Swiss clock (yes, it regularly went "cuckoo"... and so did many PC members).
I think now pretty much all old-time PC members have a "starting" date of about a year ago, which is the point when the whole system finally collapsed like a cheap (original!) Godzilla movie special effect, and DAZ had to give every member "today" as their starting date. There just isn't any reliable record any more before that point.
I think they could get there by looking at the detailed order history, checking for PC membership payments. I just checked my order history and while I don't see my original monthly sign-up at $29.95, I do see, starting in October of 2005, all of my monthly PC membership payments up to the time I finally bought the annual membership.
It would take some work, and I can see why they may not have wanted to go through the effort back when the system collapsed - but the information is there.
That would only work if someone joined the PC once and never left. Since a lot of people have moved in and out of the PC over the years, you'd have to go through every person's entire history with a fine tooth comb, and even then it wouldn't cover all the bases. At one point during the store transition I found myself with three overlapping PC memberships, due to store glitches, so I don't doubt that there were people who were stuck in the opposite situation.
EXACTLY.
But with so many sales, I just felt overwhelmed with the overall CLUTTER of the sales page and stopped surfing it. They need to get focused and have one or two sales maximum for three days, then go to another one, etc.
I too find the sales pages mindboggling and have stopped shopping the sales, I have only purchased a few items I thought were a good deal or wanted right now and didn't really bother much with who's store was on sale at the time to get better discounts. it is just too many in your face all at one time...can't we have just one bigger better sale at a time for a week or so?????
I can see all my membership payments in my order history as well, all the way back to the beginning... but I seem to remember a few reports of glitched order histories — the store switchover caused a lot of things to go all swiss-clock in the DAZ databases.
Also, don't forget we were originally told the new store had "a few issues" with reading the old order histories, with no guarantee of reliably flagging continuously renewed memberships, so it would all have to be re-done manually for each member. Not worth the bother.
Saying the store had "a few issues" is like saying the Library of Congress has a "few books." ;-)
I think the current DAZ marketing philosophy is "if you can't DAZzle them with Brilliance, Baffle them with..."
So far I've also been too confused by the new PC club to buy much. I think I let one of the June coupons go entirely, and still have one of the July coupons left. The odd prices on the pc club items just confuse my brain, and I can't keep track while I'm shopping store or wishlist of which PAs are up for special pricing.
That would only work if someone joined the PC once and never left. Since a lot of people have moved in and out of the PC over the years, you'd have to go through every person's entire history with a fine tooth comb, and even then it wouldn't cover all the bases. At one point during the store transition I found myself with three overlapping PC memberships, due to store glitches, so I don't doubt that there were people who were stuck in the opposite situation.
I didn't say it would be easy; just that the information was available if they wanted to use it. I don't see the effort being worthwhile, to be honest.
LOL. You nailed it.
I do want to say thank you to Jared and Jack (wow, the "J" team) for surfing the thread and noting the concerns. I was wondering if perhaps at the end of this, you guys could set up a poll with the various options that may be considered and see what the majority of the forum people might support. (Still not buying that the majority of DAZ users aren't on here, or haven't /don't surf in without posting. There's no way to keep track of all the visitors, DAZ wouldn't get anything else done. And if they could do that, they'd be getting the glitches out of a shopping cart like Magento.)
DAZ wouldn't necessarily HAVE to use what the majority of us selected, but if only the viable options were given to us, at least we could have input as to what the majority of us want. The RRRR contest is setup so user IDs have to be input and people only vote once (SurveyMonkey.)
I cant upgrade to platinum plus for some reason. When I click the convert account button nothing happens.
May 6, 2003 Joined Platinum Club. Damn sure spent allot of $$$$$$$ in the last 10 years
LOL. You nailed it.
I do want to say thank you to Jared and Jack (wow, the "J" team) for surfing the thread and noting the concerns. I was wondering if perhaps at the end of this, you guys could set up a poll with the various options that may be considered and see what the majority of the forum people might support. (Still not buying that the majority of DAZ users aren't on here, or haven't /don't surf in without posting. There's no way to keep track of all the visitors, DAZ wouldn't get anything else done. And if they could do that, they'd be getting the glitches out of a shopping cart like Magento.)
I wish the Forum Voice actually represented the buying public, then there would be a lot more guy stuff, more varieties of characters of color, and a bit less skimpwear. ;-P (And it is probably pretty easy to compare the # of customers buying stuff in the past week/month/etc. to the # of Forum users who have posted in the last week/month/etc. The forum I was admin for, it was really easy to run a report to get number of active posters. They don't need to match up forum poster to a sales account to see a significant difference in numbers.)
I wish the Forum Voice actually represented the buying public, then there would be a lot more guy stuff, more varieties of characters of color, and a bit less skimpwear. ;-P (And it is probably pretty easy to compare the # of customers buying stuff in the past week/month/etc. to the # of Forum users who have posted in the last week/month/etc. The forum I was admin for, it was really easy to run a report to get number of active posters. They don't need to match up forum poster to a sales account to see a significant difference in numbers.)
I actually ran a similar report about 2 weeks ago. It's really not hard for us to do. We're just basically comparing two database attributes for every customer in the database and then pulling out the ones that match. It's not like we have to look at every single person individually to see if they posted, we just mine the database.
I don't think I can share the numbers (I'll ask Steve if I can in case anyone is interested), but I can say this. The majority of buying customers are NOT active in the forums, but the percentage of active buyers who are in the forums is not insignificant.
I wish the Forum Voice actually represented the buying public, then there would be a lot more guy stuff, more varieties of characters of color, and a bit less skimpwear. ;-P (And it is probably pretty easy to compare the # of customers buying stuff in the past week/month/etc. to the # of Forum users who have posted in the last week/month/etc. The forum I was admin for, it was really easy to run a report to get number of active posters. They don't need to match up forum poster to a sales account to see a significant difference in numbers.)
I actually ran a similar report about 2 weeks ago. It's really not hard for us to do. We're just basically comparing two database attributes for every customer in the database and then pulling out the ones that match. It's not like we have to look at every single person individually to see if they posted, we just mine the database.
I don't think I can share the numbers (I'll ask Steve if I can in case anyone is interested), but I can say this. The majority of buying customers are NOT active in the forums, but the percentage of active buyers who are in the forums is not insignificant.
I'd think you could give the percentage, as that isn't really viable to map back to total customers.
Based on several years of being a BBS Sysop and communicating with other Sysops, I'd guess the number to be between 20 and 25 percent. That was pretty much the general breakdown between participants and downloaders back in the day.
You shouldn't even have to worry about causing trouble or disagreement. When the PC went through it's first set of changes, we kind of divided into DazLoyalists and EvilDazHaters. We seem to be much more civil this time.
I'm glad you found the PC+ to be of possible use to you. I was too untrusting to try it, so I have to form my opinion based on the experiences of those of you who were braver than I was.
All I can suggest is you contact CS, and include a screenshot if possible. Hopefully the web team can then figure it out :)
The same as me, I'm waiting of the 1st of August, that I can switch it back. PC+ is nothing for Google translations!
Not long to the end of the so-called beta now and my feelings about PC+ are that I am completely underwhelmed.
I feel that way because I cannot distinguish the benefits that PC+ gives me vs an ordinary DAZizen, what with there being new sales/offers/combos/flashbacks/punches etc etc so frequently along with the continuing problem with every single DAZ offer ...
Too many $%$*%! conditions!
i.e. You get n% off j, k and l but only if p+q+r are in your cart, and the moon is in a waning phase, and the spin on every thousandth photon emitted from your laptop's screen is downwards ... and, no, you can't see what it might cost you unless you alternately move all the items that you might be interested in through your cart and note down the results of the permutations. Just bs, bs and more bs! And PC+ does NOTHING to improve this. In fact, it's worse because it introduces a new set of conditions that are PA-dependent. And those vouchers ... well, don't forget that you pay a membership fee to get them - I'm not sure if everyone has been factoring that into their savings calculations.
For me, it's a total thumbs down, but I do respect the views of so many people here who absolutely revel in the mathematical complexity and retail mind games. Enjoy!
As Jack said upthread, that's actually our forum joining date — and it's not reliable. A small but significant number of people have "impossible" joining dates, usually either "0" or the calendar start date of the computer system DAZ uses.
What Jack didn't say is that the actual PC joining dates stored in our My Account pages, are almost completely unreliable — when we changed over to the new store software, there was a period of nearly a year when membership renewals had to be done manually because the automatic renewal system had many similarities to a fine Swiss clock (yes, it regularly went "cuckoo"... and so did many PC members).
I think now pretty much all old-time PC members have a "starting" date of about a year ago, which is the point when the whole system finally collapsed like a cheap (original!) Godzilla movie special effect, and DAZ had to give every member "today" as their starting date. There just isn't any reliable record any more before that point.
Duly noted! I joined in 1872 long before all these young whipper-snappers and their new fangled internet thing. Back in the day we sculpted in wax and were lucky if there was a sale once a decade.
Even though I took advantage of all the positive perks while this has been going on, I too am looking forward to getting back to the way things were. I know how things work during a trial stage, allot of great deals to promote it and then nothing great once it is set in place permanently. Too many incentives are screwing around with what the actual program will turn out to be I am afraid. Also, I feel the good sales during the year offered to PC members are good enough for me as I don't buy till it goes on sale and that actually helps curb my spending.
Wax? You had WAX? We had DIRT. And it was just plain old dry dirt that we could only scoop into small piles until Autocavefloor came up with the brilliant idea of adding water and created Mudbox.
From what I have read and I think I have a pretty good grasp of the concept of PC+. The TL;DR version is basically PC club items are going to cost a little more, and in exchange for paying slightly higher prices Daz is going to be able to offer a wider selection of discount items from more vendors.