Announcing The Platinum Club Plus [Beta] Program
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Unfortunately, the discounts only seem to work at random. Sickleyield's Security doesn't work, yet Wonderous Creatures does... And is anyone else finding that a number of the links on the CC sale page seem to be broken?
I just tested !Security and it is working, both with the PC+ discount and the 40% if you purchase a qualifying item. We're working on fixing the links on the Sales and Promo page. It's weird, you can right click and choose to open the link, but left clicking doesn't work.
**Edit** I tested with creature creator, but not any of the other new releases. Double checking the sales rule right now.
Thank you for the link., lee_lhs. I do not see this sale advertised anywhere else than in your post. Perhaps that it was advertised in a PC newsletter that I Have not received.
Thank you for the link., lee_lhs. I do not see this sale advertised anywhere else than in your post. Perhaps that it was advertised in a PC newsletter that I Have not received.
There is a sliding banner advertising the sale. Just a heads up that the PA's in the sale are changing in a few minutes (if they haven't already).
There is a sliding banner advertising the sale. Just a heads up that the PA's in the sale are changing in a few minutes (if they haven't already).
Actually it's not in the banner anymore. It dropped off sometime last night.
@DAZ_Jared
Just a quick Heads Up
While I saw the PC+ Thank you sale in the banner yesterday, I'm not currently seeing it in the sliding banner today.
Charlie
@DAZ_Jared
Just a quick Heads Up
While I saw the PC+ Thank you sale in the banner yesterday, I'm not currently seeing it in the sliding banner today.
Charlie
We pulled it temporarily while we are updating the sale with new PA's. Give us a couple of minutes and it should be back up.
There is a sliding banner advertising the sale. Just a heads up that the PA's in the sale are changing in a few minutes (if they haven't already).
Thank you very much for the information. I must have missed the banner... Now I know where I can find it and since I bookmarked the page everything is fine... :)
Sheesh, and after I just spent $100 here. :P
Seems Blue Light Specials ring your bell...
Is your objective to shop for discounts, or best value? Since 3d content is a license to use, the terms must be equivalent between stores to compare product offerings. My observations is terms differ substantially and there fore cannot be compared by price alone. That means what you can do "legally" with your purchase differs substantially depending where you bought it. Furthermore there are other tangible differences such as the software installer, build quality, customer service and compatibility to various 3d applications should be considered.
So is it 50% or more that leads to a sale, or is it the best value product that makes you consider purchase? Would you pay full list price even if it was cheaper than a competitors product of similar appeal at 90% off ? Or would the subjective temptation and thrill of gaming a discount be too great to overcome to be able to get maximum objective value from the purchase.
As I am a hobbyist and the only "commercial" use I have for products is participating with a picture in a contest now and then, I don't have your needs for licensing. My kind of use is licensed for in all stores I know.
Got an email where you have to buy both things to get the discount.
For feedback: I don't like these "buy both of these and get 40% off each" promos because I have one of the two items every time, so I'm not going to buy something I already have just to get more discounts on the other thing. This type of marketing results in zero sales from me.
On this two offers I've always 1 item bought before.
Nothing new there. The vast majority of ads these days seem to be aimed at newbs and non-PC members. And on the rare occasion that they are aimed at PC members, they're aimed at PC members who don't buy much. Bundles of PC products that came out in the last year or two, 60% off the bestselling items from last year... there's something fundamentally wrong with a marketing department that consistently gives the greatest rewards to the people who don't buy, but clearly they haven't figured out that all they're doing is making ALL of us less and less inclined to buy items when they first come out.
Instead of all the complicated coupons, why doesn't DAZ take a page from some other site's playbooks.
One offers points. You get so many points for each purchase. You can spend as many points as you want up to a certain amount on any purchase.
Another offers reward points. Spend so much money in a given month, the buyer gets 5% back to spend on what they want in the store.
The points system might only knock a couple dollars off the cart price but every little bit helps. The spend money to get back isn't always popular and DAZ might need to take a look at the average of what members willingly spend each month to determine a target figure that's high enough for them to make a profit but not high enough to kill the program.
There is one thing I still scratch my head at and wonder about. Yes, due to the fact that Genesis and HD are best used in DS, DAZ has to give away an up to date version of DS. But why the Pro version? At one time, DAZ offered DS3 for free and DS3 Advanced for pay. When DS4 was released, the standard was free. Advanced and Pro were for pay. Members could buy the modules to expand the standard version or they could buy whole pack. Either way, the key word in this was "buy". However large or small it might have been, it would have been a revenue stream. Note: this is not an attack on DAZ or those who run it. I had similar thoughts with the "old guard" that started it when they began their "sale-a-minute" marathon years ago. I used to wonder how they figured they could keep it up as there were times it seemed like they were literally giving away the house.
I'm also not a software designer or engineer so if there are valid tech reasons for Pro and only Pro then that would explain things.
Seems Blue Light Specials ring your bell...
Is your objective to shop for discounts, or best value? Since 3d content is a license to use, the terms must be equivalent between stores to compare product offerings. My observations is terms differ substantially and there fore cannot be compared by price alone. That means what you can do "legally" with your purchase differs substantially depending where you bought it. Furthermore there are other tangible differences such as the software installer, build quality, customer service and compatibility to various 3d applications should be considered.
So is it 50% or more that leads to a sale, or is it the best value product that makes you consider purchase? Would you pay full list price even if it was cheaper than a competitors product of similar appeal at 90% off ? Or would the subjective temptation and thrill of gaming a discount be too great to overcome to be able to get maximum objective value from the purchase.
As I am a hobbyist and the only "commercial" use I have for products is participating with a picture in a contest now and then, I don't have your needs for licensing. My kind of use is licensed for in all stores I know.
Competing stores define a lot of other usage restrictions beyond commercial use limitations, for instance which application it can be used in (Ref. Locked to license and other DRM schemes at C3D.) so you cant use in a multi-app graphics pipeline. Some EULA's will not let you print even personal 3d printed objects, or publish in virtual 3d to a webpage (WebGL/Flash). or embed the 3d scene in a Android app (intel's latest Pocket Avatar). Some will not allow you to use in a virtual social environment. Some 3d content EULA"S will not allow you to publish even "2d sprites" in projects. Some will allow you to create derivations, some will not. ALL EULA:S ARE NOT THE SAME. I don't buy 3d for the purchase thrill, but for its application. USAGE FREEDOM IS EVERYTHING, because its what defines the value SCOPE of the purchase.
These are all legitimate and highly compelling uses for 3d content, however many stores are blind to the opportunities and restrict by obsolete and archaic misconceptions of risk and reward. Why should not 3d creators be taking advantage of these consumers?
Can we quit this yet? I want to go back to $1.99, $2.99 Platinum Club. Why is everything in my life costing 30-50% more, my income sure isn't.
As was stated in the FAQ and has been stated multiple times in this thread the PC+ beta period will end at the end of July. After that everyone will revert back to regular PC and we'll announce any changes, updates, or info we have about the PC+ program.
As was stated in the FAQ and has been stated multiple times in this thread the PC+ beta period will end at the end of July. After that everyone will revert back to regular PC and we'll announce any changes, updates, or info we have about the PC+ program.
At this point, I think this is more the equivalent of the kids in the back seat saying "Are we there yet?" ;-P
To be fair, to use your example of C3D: VUE is a product that's successfully managed to leap the gap between the hobbyist and pro-sumer markets to become a well established professional work-tool, so products on Cornucopia3d are far more likely to be used for commercial products than anything sold on DAZ, except perhaps the base figures themselves. By comparison, by not expanding Genesis1/2 beyond the core DAZ software, DAZ has basically blown off a large percentage of possible professional applications and concentrated on selling in volume to the low end of the market. It's a different sales model with a different intended customer base, and the EULAs reflect where the actual money is for each approach and end market.
At this point, I think this is more the equivalent of the kids in the back seat saying "Are we there yet?" ;-P
Well I will turn this thread around this instant. ;-)
I have yet to see any evidence of the 6 new release freebies PC members are supposed to get. Anyone have any clue as to how one gets them? Thanks.
5, not 6, 4 weekly freebies and a monthly freebie IIRC. Check this category: http://www.daz3d.com/free-3d-models-and-content
Weekly freebie is the Industrial Compressor. The monthly freebie is the Jolly boat.
**ETA** The weekly PC Newsletter will list the weekly and monthly freebies. If you aren't receiving it and would like to be please let me know.
It's 5 new release freebies. It the same as it always been. 1 per week + the PC freebie for the month.
Those are the 1 monthly PC freebie and the regular weekly free with purchase items, which you don't have to buy anything in order to get if you're in the PC or PC+. Currently three of them are still available - http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/faerie-war http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/aircompressor and http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/jolly-boat IIRC, last week's (offer now expired) was http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/cookware-set
To be fair, to use your example of C3D: VUE is a product that's successfully managed to leap the gap between the hobbyist and pro-sumer markets to become a well established professional work-tool, so products on Cornucopia3d are far more likely to be used for commercial products than anything sold on DAZ, except perhaps the base figures themselves. By comparison, by not expanding Genesis1/2 beyond the core DAZ software, DAZ has basically blown off a large percentage of possible professional applications and concentrated on selling in volume to the low end of the market. It's a different sales model with a different intended customer base, and the EULAs reflect where the actual money is for each approach and end market.
That's parsing the competition kind of fine. FBX export works fine with Genesis...not sure why you suggest an savvy autodesk user could not use it. I buy DAZ Originals strictly for the portability into my 3d media pipeline. My projects with 3d figures are for hobby yet I am a 3d professional designer (CAD). EULA use clauses are there to define scope pf use so that the IP holder can reuse the efforts on other opportunities. In theory, limits of use should reflect the value, and be only be a portion of the return. Consider 3DUniverse and the and tiered licensing potential their products have.
I think that DAZ today may be where the easy money is forged by SMI, however there is a lot larger segment looming just over the horizon in the casual social media markets that can be tapped with a bit of creativity. I suggested dozens of ways in this tread alone. I thought where they were going after Social Media Users when releasing DS4Pro free - but they got sidetracked with the new store.
Seconded. For me, if it's not the "already got" situation (because I've been buying regularly here for several years), then one or more of the qualifying goodies is something I'd never buy; whether it's a style I'm not interested in, or something for a figure I didn't want to buy (and still don't) when it came out. I don't mind so much when this happens now and then, but it's happening much too often nowadays.
Seconded. For me, if it's not the "already got" situation (because I've been buying regularly here for several years), then one or more of the qualifying goodies is something I'd never buy; whether it's a style I'm not interested in, or something for a figure I didn't want to buy (and still don't) when it came out. I don't mind so much when this happens now and then, but it's happening much too often nowadays.
The biggest problem I have with this kind of sale - and most sales this site is running lately - is that the discounts do not show up correctly on my wishlist.
When I'm home from work I used to log into DAZ, open my wishlist and go through the list to see which items are on sale today and at which discount. I do that regularly here, at R'osity and at RDNA. If I find items at a discount I can justify for myself (wishlist items are mostly from the I'd-like-to-have-but-I-do-not-really-need category), I move it to my cart and then check new releases category for stuff I need recently or add to wishlist for 'maybe later'.
I'm fine with adding another discount code before I check out, what I usually do at R'osity (RDNA these days had their first coupon code, and I used that one too) - but that unfortunately does not work for DAZ anymore. They have a sale tactic that does NOT tell me what discount I get for a single item from my wishlist. Check this, add that, buy 2, buy 3, buy for $50 to get another discount on some other item, and so on... that suxx. So some items don't show the discount at all (only if you combine with others in cart) or others don't show full discount before you move them into cart or add a second or third from this and that vendor, etc.. It just needs too much time to go though categories and vendor pages, check sale overview pages or sale explanations, put items in cart and see what is final price, combine with other items and check price again, then check forums for more detailed information, etc.. so I often pass on and don't care anymore.
It's just EASIER to spend money elsewhere nowadays, and that's something I honor. And remember that MORE doesn't neccessarily mean MORE FUN.
Seconded. For me, if it's not the "already got" situation (because I've been buying regularly here for several years), then one or more of the qualifying goodies is something I'd never buy; whether it's a style I'm not interested in, or something for a figure I didn't want to buy (and still don't) when it came out. I don't mind so much when this happens now and then, but it's happening much too often nowadays.
I think at the very least it could be improved by:
1. have the two items related in some way, either by theme or by related items such as clothing and then the textures
2. have the items be new.
3. Or both 1 and 2. (My choice.)
Personally, I like the points idea, with the option to have them build and then use at the end of the month, or when you check out, you can use what you have. (THAT increases buying- short term rewards work.) If you elect to wait till the end of the month and reach a certain number, you get bonus points. But customers would have a choice. I think when we have more control of how we want to be rewarded, that would give us a "warm and fuzzy." Give choices. :)
But I have to say the points don't work very well for me. Obviously you are going to spend more points than you get and one day, when my points are all spent (I use them rarely, it will take some time), I will not buy there anymore.
To be fair, to use your example of C3D: VUE is a product that's successfully managed to leap the gap between the hobbyist and pro-sumer markets to become a well established professional work-tool, so products on Cornucopia3d are far more likely to be used for commercial products than anything sold on DAZ, except perhaps the base figures themselves. By comparison, by not expanding Genesis1/2 beyond the core DAZ software, DAZ has basically blown off a large percentage of possible professional applications and concentrated on selling in volume to the low end of the market. It's a different sales model with a different intended customer base, and the EULAs reflect where the actual money is for each approach and end market.
Wenn DAZ genauso wie C3d verkaufen würde, wäre ich schon lange von DAZ komplett weg!