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A lot of those people that were in the parkinglot, would probably have been working/at school, and going after they get out for their GPU in normal years lol.
Certainly the COVID situation has changed things, but if they didn't camp out this time they would not have even had a chance at these parts. The fact that in the past you could have went to the store after getting off work or school demonstrates the demand was not as crazy back then. Contrast that to nearly every single launch of a console which required you to wait in line for it before it launched. Even the unsuccessful consoles sold out at launch, like the Dreamcast that I mentioned, LOL. When a new iphone launches they have huge lines. And so on. Traditionally GPUs and other PC parts do not have this kind of camping going on.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-apologizes-for-geforce-rtx-3080-launch-day-stock-issues-as-demand-exceeds-expectations/
I find the part about people using bots to place fake bids on the 'scalped' 3080s to drive the price insanely high so that no one will buy them interesting...
Of course, some human might actually end up paying those exhorbant prices, but since the hardware scalpers have been ruining launches for a while now, I don't feel sorry that, since they likely use bots themselves to grab all of that stock, that they are themselves being targetted by bots. Turnabout is fair play maybe?
I haven't bothered to even try to shop for these new cards. I was already planning on waiting a few months anyways for the supply to stabilize. As for the unprecedented demand, I'm not at all surprised, as the 3080 at MSRP is a screamin' deal, relative to it's predecessors!
I could go for a cheaper 2080 Ti maybe, but I'm looking really hard at those 3090 cards ATM. In the meantime, I'm making do with my 1080 Ti!
I do know a lot of people that said hell no to the RTX and super prices and stuck with their 1070 and 1080 cards. The prices were a bit better this realease, could also explain a nice chunk of the demand on this release. 1070 to a 3070 would be a nice performance bump for the price, if you can get your hands on one lol.
I'm not sure about people camping parking lots but that Microcenter, the Chicago city one, has had first day sell throughs of a number of major launches going back to the Ryzen 7's. I remember that one because he called me telling me to get in gear because the part I wanted, the 1700, was almost gone. The PC enthusiast market has been showing an increase in sales in the last 3 or 4 years as the consoles got very old. Going forward a lot will depend on whether the game makers produce some good games for this new HW or just fall back, as they have in the past, on retreads of console games.
On that, not that is new, there is a prerelease remastered Crysis kicking around that looks amazing, that breaks the 3080 (sub 30fps at 4k). If game devs start really pushing the envelope like they did back in the day with Crysis and GTA we could really see some stuff. It's not like we don't have the HW for it now.
Back when I could drive before my stroke last year I would go over to the Micro Center off I-75 north of Detroit and they were always busy and it was normal to see long lines for anything. I imagine they had a good turnout for this launch.
It could be either of a mixture of the two. We have no information so can't really offer an opinion.
My opinion is they will sell out as quick.
Related, I think if the initial reviews of the 3090 are even slightly disappointing, there will be another huge surge for the 3080s.
I snagged an MSI 3080 VENTUS OC from Newegg Wednesday evening when it kept popping in and out of stock randomly. Luckily they didn't cancel my order. It shipped out yesterday (UPS Next Day Air) and I got it a little before noon today.
https://imgur.com/rsCdBr5
Replacing an MSI 1070Ti.
...sounds like back to the situation we had during the cryptomining craze.
...wow 70,000$. That could build one beast of a workstation with dual 64 core Epyc CPUs, 1 TB of DDR4 ECC RAM, dual NVLinked RTX Quadro 8000s several high capacity SSDs, dual 4K 32" displays, and a beefy UPS to protect it (and I might even have a little change rattling around in the pocket after all is said and done).
...focusing on the 3090, already have 12 GB with a Titan-X.
As I've mentioned before, VRAM can be a factor in rendering speed if it prevents the process from dumping to the CPU.
Reports back then were most of the cards never even made it out of China. It wasn't that the retailers were having them snatched by bots but that they simply never even got any significant numbers. My friend said his Microcenter would expect a case and get one card.
The AIB's got very tight lipped about the whole thing but almost all the cards are made in a very small geographic region in China and go through the same port.
I'm opretty confident that's someone who will refuse to pay just to yank the sellers chain, the seller may not even have the card.
Anyway this card is creating some unprecedented events and news.
Oh you're like those people who actually manage to empty their wishlist.
...glad I still have my Titan-X for now. Still saving for a 3090 (originally was for an RTX Titan).
Not sure what you're trying to insinuate.... lol
If the scores are anywhere near what they should be I'm getting one of those. Just have to figure out what to do with the soon to be displaced 2080tis.
Poeple buying the 3090 for gaming won't care. They're buying status symbols. Render junkies will want all that juicy VRAM and be okay if they're not the Holy Grail of video cards (assuming they can afford them at all).
A $700 graphics card isn't an essential good, so maybe the price gougers will go crazy buying them up. Most retail sellers don't care either, because it's money in their pocket, either way.
Good power supplies are also short on supply. What a horrible year for upgrading your computer.
That's why I do so much business with Microcenter. They have lots of PSU's. I checked Newegg and they are sold out of all the units I commonly buy for customer builds which is kind of scary.
Wonder what supply will look like by late Oct. when the Ryzen 4000 CPU's should go on sale. I was hoping to do a few builds for Xmas cash.
I keep telling folks to wait; although the FE 3080 is still a decent deal, but more RAM is essential in rendering.
Pretty much why I am hanging out and waiting patiently for what comes next, with what I am hearing about the next AMD cards it might just give Nvidia the incentive to release cards with more vram and such..
Depends on what you're rendering. Back when I was using a GTX 970 with 4GB it was easier to reach the limit and drop to CPU rendering. With a 1070Ti and 8GB I don't think I ever had issues unless it was some ridiculous set piece or something. The 3080 has 10GB. There's also ways to reduce render mem usage and utilities that can help as well.
Indeed there are ways to reduce RAM useage, but it can take time. It is nice to not have to worry about RAM, which is why I said two things: FE 3080 is a good deal, but more RAM is essential. More doesn't indicate any specific amount as being optimal (although it could be understood that I mean more than 10 - and for me 24 is possibly not always enough.); for you 4 wasn't enough, whereas 8 rarely isn't.
4GB was ok 4 years ago, 8GB is ok now, 10GB is going to be less than ok pretty soon...
I agree that higher VRAM trumps speed for me, as well. It all comes down to priorities, of course, but I'd much rather have high capacity card and not worry about managing scene size than having to manage VRAM consumption, even if the card is blazing fast.
Indeed, doesn't matter how fast a card is if it's rendering on CPU, which in Blender I'm fine with but that's another story.
Again, faster rendering is offset by getting a scene to render on a card that doesn't have enough.