"Coming Soon" Diigitals timer on main Daz page?

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  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562

    And, unless I am mistaken, the point of NFTs is that you're not selling the image or ownership of the image. The image is just the vehicle for the ownership for the code behind it represents.

    So sort of skirting around the whole issue of selling images.

    I've lost track of which of my messages have been removed, so not sure if this is a forbidden subject or not.

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    Here's the link for the full text: https://www.daz3d.com/eula

    I read it and from what I can tell, they can modify gallery submissions and display them, but don't own them.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598

    Nevertheless, I have removed my gallery posts. Granted, not much to do in my case, but just to make a statement of dismay.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,850

    License to use,  or right to use,  is separate from ownership or copyright. If you grant them the right to use,  then they can use it anyway they want unless you stipulated otherwise. Which you didn't,  when you agreed to the term of use.

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,637

    Where would business be without a market full of fools?

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.
  • Jason GalterioJason Galterio Posts: 2,562

    FirstBastion said:

    License to use,  or right to use,  is separate from ownership or copyright. If you grant them the right to use,  then they can use it anyway they want unless you stipulated otherwise. Which you didn't,  when you agreed to the term of use.

    This is what I was thinking as well, though in my current emotion I couldn't articulate it this well. I probably couldn't in a normal frame of mind either, but that's besides the point. :)

    My concern right now is...  A company that I buy products from to make images...  Has suddenly gone into business selling images in a manner which I don't agree with.

    It's also a complete pain to delete your gallery here because you apparently have to delete every individual image, one at a time.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598

    Now the new NFT "shop" seems to be completely broken.... 

  • certaintree38 said:

    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.

    It's under the Community drop-down?

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,172

    not all changes are good changes. 

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    edited March 2021
    According to what I just read about licensing images, Daz has to have commercial rights to use an image in marketing. If Daz has commercial rights, doesn't that mean they can also sell it? :/
    Post edited by Sera on
  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    certaintree38 said:

    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.

    It's under the Community drop-down?

    I see it now... It's just broken.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.

    It's under the Community drop-down?

    But obviously less important to Daz than NFTs. 

  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,986

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.

    It's under the Community drop-down?

    On my phone it won't work. It goes to a splash page for community and nothing happens when I click forums. On my PC the drop down menu shows up. 

  • benniewoodell said:

    Daz Jack Tomalin said:

    certaintree38 said:

    I can't believe they got rid of the gallery link for this. How can that possibly be intentional? How could you possibly forget to include it? Both explanations make no sense.

    It's under the Community drop-down?

    On my phone it won't work. It goes to a splash page for community and nothing happens when I click forums. On my PC the drop down menu shows up. 

    Ok I'll let the team know, thanks

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    Wait a second... They are selling these individually and as a bundle? Are they even in limited quantities?
  • jimmyzpopjimmyzpop Posts: 118

    Looks like th Diigitals NFT's also unlock addtional content as well as the image/videos. Guess now, I can see why these are selling at $100 and up beacuse of them. Would possibly buy the hand painted texture map NFT one, however I can only see the texture of the face in the NFT photo, not the quility of the whole body texture maps.

    NFT unlocks the hand-painted texture map files used in the original image.

    This Limited Edition NFT unlocks an OBJ file of the earrings in this piece

    This one-of-a-kind NFT unlocks an OBJ file of this fabulous dress along with an uncompressed 4096x4096 AVI video version of the artwork.

    This exclusive NFT unlocks a Marvelous Designer .zprj file of the fabulous “Lotus” dress from the video.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598

    certaintree38 said:

    Wait a second... They are selling these individually and as a bundle? Are they even in limited quantities?

    They are limited. The thumbnails now lead to the OpenSea store and that lists the number of NFTs and who owns them. The DAZ Studio NFTs are usually 100 items per offer, owned by Tafi. The Shudu ones vary (owner: Tafi).

    What the currently all have in common: not a single bid on the OpenSea site. 

  • Joe2018Joe2018 Posts: 262

    Overall it looks for me as this is the 1. April Joke from DAZ.

  • certaintree38 said:

    According to what I just read about licensing images, Daz has to have commercial rights to use an image in marketing. If Daz has commercial rights, doesn't that mean they can also sell it? :/

    No. There's a difference between being able to use something in a commercial and being able to redistribute it. 

  • Daz_JessicaDaz_Jessica Posts: 155

    Daz was founded on the concept of empowering artists and giving them an avenue to monetize from their talent and hard work. We are exploring NFTs (among other avenues) as an extension of that vision. We hope that in the future we can provide more avenues for artists to create and sell their works, if they so choose. 

    Daz values copyright law and has never sold images nor plans to sell images from the gallery without the signed agreement and purchase of that asset. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,637
    edited March 2021

    Joe2018 said:

    Overall it looks for me as this is the 1. April Joke from DAZ.

    Unlikely. If it's a joke it's rather elaborate and seems to have generated a tremendous outpouring of ill-will against Daz in the process. Even if Daz comes out on April 2 and says "A-ha, just kidding," there are people deleting their forum posts and galleries in outrage as we speak. Plus, see Daz Jessica's doomed attempt to mollify the mob in the post above.

    Whatever Daz's intentions, in this environment and with the ongoing hardware shortage, I think this NFT thing was a very bad idea. But who knows? Maybe Daz will see a huge windfall from this and the $$ of the so-called silent majority will justify the forum storm and online reputational harm.

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited March 2021

    Daz_Jessica said:

    Daz was founded on the concept of empowering artists and giving them an avenue to monetize from their talent and hard work. We are exploring NFTs (among other avenues) as an extension of that vision. We hope that in the future we can provide more avenues for artists to create and sell their works, if they so choose. 

    Daz values copyright law and has never sold images nor plans to sell images from the gallery without the signed agreement and purchase of that asset. 

    But you're not empowering artists. You're empowering scammers to further take advantage of artists and lure people who don't know any better into buying air. Not to mention compounding on the plight of said artists who can't find any equipment to make art with because of these scammers. 

    Post edited by MelissaGT on
  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675
    ... I wonder what "among other avenues" means.
  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598

    certaintree38 said:

    ... I wonder what "among other avenues" means.

    That scares me evene more than the NFT's 

  • ZyloxZylox Posts: 787

    People talk about speaking with your wallet, and I am. I just trimmed 100 items from my wishlist and plan on going back to trim it even more agressively.

    I am NOT going to delete my account or uninstall DAZ Studio. However, I will be buying much less from the DAZ store in the future.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598
    edited March 2021

    Zylox said:

    People talk about speaking with your wallet, and I am. I just trimmed 100 items from my wishlist and plan on going back to trim it even more agressively.

    I am NOT going to delete my account or uninstall DAZ Studio. However, I will be buying much less from the DAZ store in the future.

    Same here. In German, we have an idiom that translates to "have a hedgehog in your pocket", depicting someone who is really tight-fisted. I promise I will be nice to that hedgehog, though cheeky

    Just by coincidence, I am running out of store credit anyway, since they did not offer a good deal on a gift card for quite some time.

    Post edited by Mark_e593e0a5 on
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,880

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    Zylox said:

    People talk about speaking with your wallet, and I am. I just trimmed 100 items from my wishlist and plan on going back to trim it even more agressively.

    I am NOT going to delete my account or uninstall DAZ Studio. However, I will be buying much less from the DAZ store in the future.

    Same here. In German, we have an idiom that translates to "have a hedgehog in your pocket", depicting someone who is really tight-fisted. I promise I will be nice to that hedgehog, though cheeky

    Just by coincidence, I am running out of store credit anyway, since they did not offer a good deal on a gift card for quite some time.

    We do? Never heard of the hedgehog-idiom, but maybe it's a regional thing (Northernmost Germany here). What a cute picture though, love it! smiley

    My store-credit has just run out as well, no GC deal in sight ...

  • There was an amazing gift card deal about 2 weeks ago... 20% off I think?

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,598

    Two weeks ago is long ago, during March Madness time laugh

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