The We Will Miss You, Chohole Complaint Thread
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My watch is not working!
I've eaten more Pop-Tarts™ in my life than was necessary or good for me. The sheer thought of it is enough to keep me awake at night, but it doesn't.
@McGyver:
I hope you don't mind, but I copied and saved your essay on Pop-Tarts. I named it "What are Pop-Tarts by McGyver" and saved it in My Documents under the folder Humorous Editorials.
Dana
The same watch that was already running hopelessly late previously?
In short - I'm too old...
The way they are raising the retirement age over here, the youngsters won't be happy about me pestering them for yet another twelve years and 5 months until I'm seventy, but hey... Pestering youngsters is so much fun
Can't remember either way.
But, you know, even a broken watch is right twice a day
Edit: Unless it's one of those fancy new digital ones, then it's just broken...
The fabrication plant that I was the manager of and we made skids, hoppers, degasser's and such for oil rigs and it was a perfect example of the whole knowledge and experience. They said they were laying me off because they were doing cut backs and I needed to train this other guy that was going to take my place cause they were able to pay him less. Yeah, $10,000 less at that. They had just gotten some new equipment, plasma table, CNC Press, sheet roller and a angle roller, and bunch of new welding machines. I got hired there because of my experience in the fabrication and manufacturing end of the industry. I set up and programmed everything over a 8 month period while running the shop. Staying after 6-8 hrs a night to install the new equipment, program things, welding some of our smaller orders myself to break all the new equipment in. They told me this news and told me to train this other person on all this equipment and I basically said kiss my rear and walked out. You don't want to pay for experience, knowledge and dedication and just want to save a buck then I guess your gonna have to play it by ear and suffer. I was the only person in the shop who even knew how to turn the machines on. Nobody in the shop had even 1 min on any of it. I got a phone call 2 days later from the new guy asking me how do I do this and that. I said sorry I'd like to help you, it's not personal, but your gonna have to figure it out yourself. My bosses didn't even know clue 1 to this equipment. Was funny cause he was asking how to get to the programs on the plasma table. It takes a dongle plugged into my laptop in my office to communicate with the table software and AutoCAD that I took out and put into the case every night so if the laptop got stolen at some point that wouldn't lose the dongle as well and that would cost a fortune to replace. I wouldn't even tell him it needed the dongle. He also had no clue how to do anything in AutoCAD. Tell me again how much money your gonna lose now that you got rid of the person that knew how to work everything? All to save $10,000 a year? What a joke.
They haven't asked me to do that yet, but ever since I started ten years ago, I have been making improvements into the process management system, which was basically 5 separate piles of paper when I started, even though there was an ERP into which everybody was feeding information, but the only way you got anything out of it, was on paper...
Now that I have pretty much gotten the system working the way it should and without paper, they have been planning on getting a new ERP that would solve all the problems (=make art button).
They have been on it for more than a year and a half already, nothing has come out of it and all the questions are being answered like "That's a good question..."
Needless to say that none of the guys on our side have any significant experience in managing production, knowledge or experience with computer programs and/or pressure vessels that we manufacture, but hey it's Microsoft's program, so there can not be anything better and/or more versatile under the sun = Magic button
I scheduled a dentist appointment. I think I have to go there in person instead of a televisit type thing.
Oh gezz. I swear companies are getting worse and worse. Everything is about money. Not quality, not experience, not knowledge but the almighty dollar.
I upgraded our police depatment to computer. When I started it was all done by hand. We had 86 different form that need filled out depending on the situation you were in. The chief of police at the time thought orginazation and filing meant throw the paper's on the desk as messy as possible. Look up a person, nope. Stats, nope. When I became detective seargent after he left I got us a grant to get us computers in our cars, computers in the office, all the software we needed and connect to the state and federal database's. I remade all of our form on the computer and we used those for about 2 years until I got us another grant and got us into the statewide software that had the main forms in it. Everything was then entered into it's database so we can look up anything about anyone. It saved us so much money it paid for itself in 2 months. All we had to do is pay our yearly dues to keep the software updated. When I because chief of police I did a full revamp of the department with grant money. We were finally caught up with the times and with new equipment.
...+1
...yep, similar situation happened to myself as well. I knew they kept me around because I had the best rapport with our major client knew all the ins and outs of their business as well as the operations we had to do on our end, and, the only person in the warehouse part of the operation who had any computer savvy. Once the company was bought out, the client left (didn't care for the new owners' terms) and my role at the company was history. WHile there I completely automated the client's billing system was which shortened the time to complete the monthly billing packet form about a week and a half (which was done manually with pens and paper) to about two days, Many for the aspects were borrowed by managers of other accounts.
I remember running al the final inventory counts, making sure all the pallets had full inventory list of what was on them, set up all the documentation for the new shipping company in Minnesota and even arranged for and oversaw the pickups. The day after everything had shipped a couple hours and I came into work I was called in to be informed I was being let go. No company send off, no "gold watch", no pension, not even a pat on the back and handshake from the owner. I actually had to insist on to saying goodbye to my co-workers, some of whom where there as long if not longer than I was. The only "severance" I received was a few days extra pay and compensation for vacation time I hadn't used.
In a way, I was actually relieved as my arthritis and circulatory issues had become markedly worse during my last couple years there and there was no way I could transition into a position that had even greater physical demands (which was all that was left on the warehouse end, no consideration moving me into a desk job even though I knew my way around the company's database better than anyone there, save those in the IT department who designed and maintained it).
Yeah looking back I can see I was taken advantage of for my computer knowledge and skills.
Poptart is a desert/snack - it is like a hard pastery with filling and icing that you heat up in a toaster.
heh - I remember whne Poptarts came out to market.. was not impressed..
Now if your not having a proper Full English breakfast, them a good baguette or French crusty loaf, (plain or toasted) with good salted butter and Bonne Maman strawberry jam (or a good butter croissant with the aforementioned butter and jam) is a really good start, with either a café au lait or doubgle expresso... or toast of any kind... or a generic Café complet ....
Thank you, I'm honored you found that worth archiving... too bad the topic wasn't Dinty Moore canned beef stew... that subject gets weird quickly.
I read that as "Teletype vist"... I was like how does one teletype their dentist and why is anyone using teletypes anymore?
You probably know this, but a teletype machine was like a Fax machine, but instead of sending a photocopy print of the message, actually used an automatic typewriter to type out the message... that would make for an interesting medical conversation with a lot of "tap-tap-ta-tap-tapping".
Nostalgic Memories: Ah, teletypes. Mid '70s. Wonderful machines. Incredible mechanics. Inventive electronics. All made with stone knives & bearskins.
Perfect control console for 2nd generation computers and "Minicomputers" ( computers of the late '60s, & '70s, only requiring a couple racks of equipment instead of a whole room.) Teletypes were reliable, they were fast enough for what they were expected to do (believe it or not), they kept a continuous log of console operations on the pile of roll paper behind the machine. When I was at The Mitre Corporation in Washington, DC they had a big old computer room originally designed for a big 1st generation machine but was populated with a couple of "big" minicomputers ("a PDP<something>" & a "BBN<something>" by time I was there in the early '80s. The air conditioner was for the old machine which apparently produced a lot of heat because the A/C in that room was like a meat locker and the wind was so bad that you had to be careful to pile some boxes near the teletype to block the wind. Otherwise your 30 foot pile of console log paper would flap in the breeze three-quarters the way down the room.
Nostalgic Memories: Ah, teletypes. Mid '70s. Wonderful machines. Incredible mechanics. Inventive electronics. All made with stone knives & bearskins.
Perfect control console for 2nd generation computers and "Minicomputers" ( computers of the late '60s, & '70s, only requiring a couple racks of equipment instead of a whole room.) Teletypes were reliable, they were fast enough for what they were expected to do (believe it or not), they kept a continuous log of console operations on the pile of roll paper behind the machine. When I was at The Mitre Corporation in Washington, DC they had a big old computer room probably originally designed for a big 1st generation machine but was populated with a couple of "big" minicomputers ("PDP<something>" & a "BBN <something>"**) by time I was there in the '80s. The air conditioner was way overkill. The A/C in that room was like a meat locker and the wind was so bad that you had to be careful to pile some boxes near the teletype to block the wind. Otherwise your 30 foot pile of console log paper would flap in the breeze three-quarters the way down the room.
You didn't spend a lot of time in the room and conversation was impossible because of the fan noise. Least ergonomic computer room I ever experienced.
**Note: The Mitre Corporation is a government think tank for technology and was one of the early participants in the ARPANET program (ancestor of the "Internet") which is why they had a BBN (Bolt, Beranek and Newman) computer because that's what it ran on back then. Ah, life was so simple then.
Ah, that brings back memories - we had in our datacentre a section that was nothing but rows of teletype macgines - these received copies of train movements and orders, and as well as a printed output, used a paper tape punch as output. One of the jobs in that dept. was to gather up the tapes perisodcally and than take them over to the paper tape readers that were input to our mainframe, thus getting train info input.. I can remember it wa a very noisy area. The datacenter was also a teletpye network hub, the "network" guys were pretty good at maintaining and re-routing circuits as needed, I do also remember we had a couple of custmers whose teletype circuits were pretty much point to point and they used teletypes with a mechanical encryption device attached..
This paper tape is in muy collection of IT memorabilia. as an aside its the train orders for the inaugural run of Amtrak's Adirondack service from Montreal to New York City. I arranged to be on day shift for that day so I could grab a couple photos from the platform (being an employee has advantages)
As the late great Rodney Dangerfield use to say "I don't get no respect!" and boy isn't that true.
Same with me and my back. All the nights of staying late working by myself lifting 4' long 1/4" channel, 1/4" tubing and 1/4" schedule 40 tubing by myself destroyed the back permanently. I haven't been able to work since outside of the house. My herniated disc I got from the car accident just got worse. It got to the point I couldn't stand but 4-5 minutes at a time and I was losing circulation and feeling in my legs and feet. I tried every single non evasive procedure to help but none of it did so I finally decided on the spinal fusion. I figured if the surgery went bad it didn't matter because being in a wheelchair would make it so I was more mobile then I currently was. 10 yrs later and 7 back surgeries logged the herniation is gone but all the pain remains and only getting worse by the year due to the degenerative discs.
The factory I worked at for 12 years welding on an assembly line and operating presses and shears and all that other fun stuff, when they closed it was much of the same. The company took half our 401K's, kept our severances and only gave us our unused vacation time, but the union officials got big packages. Go figure!
How does the 401K's work over there if the company can take them?
I had been working on one company for some 13 years, for the first 8 years it was the best company under the sun but then the owner got Intracranial hemorrhage while chopping wood and while he did recover (that time), he decided it was time to stop and sold the company to the salesman... The salesman and I were never the best of friends, but he did make me the production manager of the boiler manufacturing plant, maybe just to get rid of me as the the boiler manufacturing plant situated about 20 miles away from the head office... I ran the boiler manufacturing for four years until we had some irrecoverable differences of opinion in regards to delivery times and promises and he was quite happy to see me leave, until he found out that I had several weeks (months) of unused vacation time and about 800 hours of undisputable overtime clocked in
Although the taxes were pretty big, I still got a pretty big 'severance pay' out of it
I forgot a word in that. It was suppose to be took "half" our 401k.(I'll fix that) So, they somehow managed to take their contributions to it. idk how they did it but they did. Same happened to my father in law. He work for a company for 20 years and they did it to him. They can't take the portion that you contributed but they can in certain circumstances take theirs. I don't know all the legal ends of that. I thought it was only if you had under a certain amount of money in but they managed somehow and the union was fine with it. people got screwed out of thousands of dollars.
Any money you put in a 401K is yours to keep, but the company contribution is usually vested over time. It isn't "yours" until that vesting time has passed.
Non-complaint: Wheee... today was payday and the first receipt of my new larger deposit. Wheee...
And what's even better is that I had paid off all my credit cards and other debts before NewYears day and I have a stocked pantry full of food and necessary paper goods. Only minor groceries (bread, milk, eggs, salad, ...) necessary for the next few months. Also, after I've set aside next months rent, & life insurance and putting an extra hundred into savings, I still have a hundred dollars more than usual left over for discretionary spending, and both January and February are short "months" (only 4 weeks instead of 5 weeks to next deposit i.e. 3rd Wednesday of the month). Wheee...
Saving money is so much easier when you stop browsing Amazon, NewEgg, and DAZ. Who would'a thunk it?
No complaints yet today. Maybe later in the afternoon.
I am getting my watch looked at soon. FedEx guy is going to pick it up soon. (What if it is a FedEx gal?)
Perhaps it is asleep. Try gently shaking it.
Our gentle old golden retriever Oakley has cancerous tumors. He doesn't seem to be suffering, we give him an aspirin and a gabapentin (prescribed by his vet) twice a day. Postponing the inevitable. He was my brother's rescue dog when his youngest children were growing up. My brother is having trouble saying goodbye. So am I.
Sad that our pets don't live all that long, but they have to die old.
That is my complaint.
Awwww...sorry!
Dana