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Thanks...I tried all settings possible under Nvidia Control Panel still the moment you start DS both cards run on full power ,even the settings per program did not help .
"O" is there a selection in the driver for the cards? Possibly disabling CUDA on the card driving the monitors. A thought, if your other stuff doesn't need CUDA on the "Display Card(s)".DS is only program that do that . It should use only the display card as my settings are for single card acceleration and not mixed
oh well what you can do...
For the sake of my thought, a def.
Display Cards, the cards running monitor output.
Crunch Cards, the Cards doing the crunching.
It is probably worth reporting this behaviour as a possible bug.
I have no idea if this helps with the video cards ... but to nip D/S from using all the cores one can use the Task Manager to set affinities.
in the beta, daz would crash everytime i stopped rendering mid-render because i didnt like the look of something or the other.
not anymore! this rocks!
also, to not make a topic about it: is there an age morph for v4? not to make her older, but younger (ie, in size).
i ask because the bo beep screen features a little girl in said costume, and was wondering if theres an age morph? looked here and in renderosity but no luck.
...if you have the Morphs++ there should be a "young morph" for both the body and face. It does OK but Vicky's breast size is still an issue If you dial it too far down the mesh collapses..
At first, I used to use one of Thorne's/Sarsa's characters which had smaller breast morphs. Someone also created a "flat chest" morph as a freebie a few years ago, though not sure if it is still available. If you have Steph 4 and the Natural Petite Morphs for Steph4 it is a lot easier to create a Gen4 Teen. That is what I used the as the base for my Teen characters before Daz 4 and Genesis/G2
Over on Rendo, Jamminwolfe has two characters that have have custom morphs for different ages, Tindra Thompson and Lucy Zepp
I am not sure I understand the issue. Are the two cards set as SLI?
Do you have both of them checked under render settings?
No not SLI , it is also not about rendering , it is about GPU usage, I set in NVIDIA panel to not allow DS use the second card GPU but it does anyway the Utilization is for both cards while opening DS both GPU run on max GPU power , with rendering only the selected one get boosted but both load the full scene , with other programs only the selected one get used the other not
The moment I open DS both cards GPU slide up to max even with wire frame preview so this is not about Iray here but in general.
I am not sure I understand the issue. Are the two cards set as SLI?
Do you have both of them checked under render settings?
The K2200 is the card driving both of my monitors and in the slot closest to the CPU. According to GPU-Z. Unless I have Iray rendering (which includes the Iray viewport setting) the K6000 is idling. The only time both cards run on full power is while Iray is rendering. Now if I turn off the K6000 in Advanced Render Settings, the K6000 is idling during render, the K2200 is flat out. If I turn on the K6000, and turn off the K2200 for rendering, then during render the K6000 is running flat out, and the K2200 is running at low power keeping the monitors refreshed, browsing the forums, etc. If I have both turned on for rendering then they both run flat out until the render is done, throttling back if they get too hot, which does occasionally happen. :)
So since that is what I am seeing, I must be misunderstanding something about what you are talking about, or there is something weird going on with the TitanX.
Yeah this is the way to go and other programs do that too but not when I open DS
On my primary test machine I have a K2200 and a K6000.bellow statistic on both GPU ...
The K2200 is the card driving both of my monitors and in the slot closest to the CPU. According to GPU-Z. Unless I have Iray rendering (which includes the Iray viewport setting) the K6000 is idling. The only time both cards run on full power is while Iray is rendering. Now if I turn off the K6000 in Advanced Render Settings, the K6000 is idling during render, the K2200 is flat out. If I turn on the K6000, and turn off the K2200 for rendering, then during render the K6000 is running flat out, and the K2200 is running at low power keeping the monitors refreshed, browsing the forums, etc. If I have both turned on for rendering then they both run flat out until the render is done, throttling back if they get too hot, which does occasionally happen. :)
So since that is what I am seeing, I must be misunderstanding something about what you are talking about, or there is something weird going on with the TitanX.
Which are you reading as power consumption? (I looked at the EVGA GPU monitoring software when I first started testing Iray, I still find it confusing, which is why I quickly switched to GPU-Z. :) )
checked with GPU-Z showing the same when DS is closed the second card use only 3% power , zero memory and the GPU clock return to 135 Mhz , once DS start the second card get max GPU clock some memory and power usage 36 % in 5 min the temperature change to 52 C doing nothing shortly it is in usage by DS too
It is not target setting, it is the actual data in real time target settings are bellow the clock once DS closed the reading showing 135Mhz
That image looks like target settings, not what is actually happening. I may be misreading it though.Which are you reading as power consumption? (I looked at the EVGA GPU monitoring software when I first started testing Iray, I still find it confusing, which is why I quickly switched to GPU-Z. :) )
here when DS is closed
I had 3 cards but removed one as all of them was up and hot for nothing and usually I have open DS all day long .. now no more lol
OK, that is just weird, and appears to be related to the cards. (And no I am not going to be able to talk anyone into buying a computer with two TitanX's here to reproduce that. :) )it is just DS related issue here and I wonder why ... the fact that even Nvidia setting don't work with DS at all it would be nice if someone check on it . I tested with all programs and only DS doing it .
I was thinking DS does not recognize it as 2 cards but when I had the older one together all of them was up and running so make no difference here titan or 760 I would be at last happy if the Nvidia setting worked with DS until then I have to shut down DS the moment I am done ...
As an experiment, have you tried the combination of one Titan and your older card together, leaving the second Titan uninstalled? That would determine whether the problem happens only when a second Titan is in the system.MEC4D, I know Luci45 has a Titan X. I don't know if she has a second card or not. You might PM her and ask if she is having similar issues.
I wish my nVidia's ran that cool, Cath! :)
I had OcDs pop up a flurry of over-temp alerts a few days back, which confused me as I was a) not actively using the plug-in and b) I did not think I was doing anything with Iray. It was down to me using the Iray shader for viewport, it looks to act a little like the render and keeps going, so the heat built up and up. If you have Iray set for any viewport options it may be linked to that?
My GTX 960 runs at about 36C on normal days. If I have a super heavy scene it runs at around 45C. I have liquid cooling so my processor don't go above 32C and keeps everything else pretty cool.
I saw plenty of users use Titan X but not one 2 it may have to do with the new card architecture , Octane 1.52 don't even works with the new GPU , in 13 days we have Windows 10 with Direct X 12 so I see how things working out with the new driver , and btw my issue have nothing to do with Iray, I can set 3Delight render engine and the same things happening when open DS what I believe have to do with the OpenGL in DS , I even set on performance but this does not have any effect , the moment the program is loading my fans runs like crazy
I have water cooling on my processor too, I should go with the hydro copper for the Titan X but everything was out of stock for 30 days lol
on a cool day it run pretty cool everything , but 45 C while rendering with Iray ? how you manage that? do you have water cooling on your graphic cards too?
As you saw my screen shot I did not ... you may remove your card and blow the thing out, dust particles are a killers for graphic cards , I could not believe what was inside my older GTX 760 in a couple of months , the inside PC and water cooling radiators are pretty clean all the time so that was surprise .. no wonder it run at 72C while rendering
O.K. I misunderstood some of that as well. Even with my pathetic "GT 730" card, just starting DS makes the card go from "idle clock speed" to "Max Performance Clock". Essentially dropping out of "Power saving mode". It is not in it's self an indication that the card is actually doing something, it's just ready to.
I did try 'Minimizing' the DazStudio window once, to see if the card would go back to "Power saving mode", and it didn't. The card only went back into hibernation mode when I exited Daz Studio. The actual GPU load during that diversion was 0%, as Daz Studio was doing nothing at all, just sitting there in Ram waiting for me to tell it to load a scene or something. I would have thought that minimizing the window would have kicked the cards down from high-idle, "Per Se", tho I guess not.
Now to be honest, it's like a car with a clutch. If the clutch is engaged with the engine idling (power-save mode), the engine will probably stall. So to prevent such stutters in user experience, The cards automatically go to a higher idle. It is not an indication that the engine is under load, just at a "high idle" per say.
The attached Screen-cap is with the current 4.8.0.55 Daz Studio (and a few dozen other windows open as well). When I start Studio, the card almost instantly goes to max clock. When I minimized the Studio window, nothing. The clock dose not go down till I close Studio. From my experience with older versions of Clock-throttling, it is better this way rather then the computer falling on it's face at the start of doing anything (until the CPU revs up to clock). I've been there, and that is why I've routinely disabled any and all clock throttling for the past fifteen years. This GT730 is the first device that I have not locked all clocks to "stock full speed".
As for actual Watts draw from the wall, with the logic (DTL/TTL/CMOS/DMOS/etc) sitting there doing nothing, what the clock is doing is meaningless if the circuits are not switching states and doing something. It's when they switch states that they consume more power (ignoring that "Quiescent Current" that is present at all times regardless of other factors). So in simple terms, as long as the GPU is not doing something, it will be sitting there idling anyway, regardless of what the clock is doing. Fans and water-pumps take time to rev-up, logic circuits can instantly go from idle to max load, so the fans/pumps revving up in advance is a good thing.
I look around occasionally, tho Water cooling is not for me.
Thanks .... My main monitor card does not load anything on the GPU but still use 36% power
it was not about rendering or loading of the GPU , it was about the power usage of a card that should be not used by DS keeping the clock at 1137 Mhz of course will use more power as it need also to be cooled , so for cards at 52C that do nothing and use 320W per hour is not really nothing it is huge waste of energy , but the point of my question was, how to prevent the second card from using by DS stand by or whatever lol cutting the power cables does not come in question ;) and NVIDIA settings does nothing ..
and btw I can run 25 million poly in Zbrush OpenGL and the clock don't even move, what about that?
O.K. I misunderstood some of that as well. Even with my pathetic "GT 730" card, just starting DS makes the card go from "idle clock speed" to "Max Performance Clock". Essentially dropping out of "Power saving mode". It is not in it's self an indication that the card is actually doing something, it's just ready to.
I did try 'Minimizing' the DazStudio window once, to see if the card would go back to "Power saving mode", and it didn't. The card only went back into hibernation mode when I exited Daz Studio. The actual GPU load during that diversion was 0%, as Daz Studio was doing nothing at all, just sitting there in Ram waiting for me to tell it to load a scene or something. I would have thought that minimizing the window would have kicked the cards down from high-idle, "Per Se", tho I guess not.
Now to be honest, it's like a car with a clutch. If the clutch is engaged with the engine idling (power-save mode), the engine will probably stall. So to prevent such stutters in user experience, The cards automatically go to a higher idle. It is not an indication that the engine is under load, just at a "high idle" per say.
The attached Screen-cap is with the current 4.8.0.55 Daz Studio (and a few dozen other windows open as well). When I start Studio, the card almost instantly goes to max clock. When I minimized the Studio window, nothing. The clock dose not go down till I close Studio. From my experience with older versions of Clock-throttling, it is better this way rather then the computer falling on it's face at the start of doing anything (until the CPU revs up to clock). I've been there, and that is why I've routinely disabled any and all clock throttling for the past fifteen years. This GT730 is the first device that I have not locked all clocks to "stock full speed".
As for actual Watts draw from the wall, with the logic (DTL/TTL/CMOS/DMOS/etc) sitting there doing nothing, what the clock is doing is meaningless if the circuits are not switching states and doing something. It's when they switch states that they consume more power (ignoring that "Quiescent Current" that is present at all times regardless of other factors). So in simple terms, as long as the GPU is not doing something, it will be sitting there idling anyway, regardless of what the clock is doing. Fans and water-pumps take time to rev-up, logic circuits can instantly go from idle to max load, so the fans/pumps revving up in advance is a good thing.
For the same reason I never trusted in water cooling but last year installed one for my CPU and glad I did.. the processor is very stable
I've caught wind of similar. There was a few water cooling suppliers that 'Had' (past tense), a good reputation, that have "Gone Under". It was discussed a few other places. I do not know the current situation with them, as most of my stuff is Heat-pipes (computers) or 'Cryogenically Cooled' (other electronic stuff). And I do pay attention to the orientation of my Heat-pipes, "Wicking" is not the best way alone, Gravity is much better.since then .. and zero issues with dust
but in December I am going to buy one more Titan X and set everything in external case so it can be better cooled and monitored
something like that : http://www.geek.com/games/gigabytes-waterforce-triple-gtx-980-graphics-card-kit-needs-its-own-radiator-case-1609252/
I look around occasionally, tho Water cooling is not for me.
...so in a sense, you will have your own little "VCA".
Too bad they don't make one for four Titan X's.
Yeah kind off ....3 Titans need more power at last 1200W supply , the additional card will be too closer to the power supply it like fitting exactly one on top another so need to figure out everything in external set
It's not just the Watts, it's the Amps on each rail (specifically the 5V rail in my system) :ohh:
Then there is all that other stuff in here, all on two 20amp dedicated outlets, That's cutting it close enough already. :coolhmm:
I took a PSU plate cut out of one case and implanted in the back of another case, to make a Dual PSU computer. The Power-OK and the PS-on signal needed a custom Op-Amp circuit to run both power supplies. That was years ago in a file-server, before the advent of 1800watt power supplies.
32C at idle, surely. That would have to be some impressive cooling to keep a CPU at 32C under a 100% rendering load.
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