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Patience, it takes a little time after a live show for everything to settle. Chat is again visible ... put the video to near the end so that the chat near the end can be seen. Links are there ;-)
Yeah I think this will probably not happen for characters, mesh and UVs are too different. I don't know why everything has to be ported up all the time. G8 still exists so just use those characters the way they were meant to be on G8 base and with so much content available for them that it boggles the mind.
Alternate maps are possible with genesis. The original genesis had alternate maps for Millenium 3 and 4 figures. It can be done but most likely as a pa product. Daz released the original genesis with millenium 4 mapping included but they haven't done it since.
Just so everyone knows, there should be a FAQ answering some more questions etc coming tomorrow![heart heart](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/heart.png)
Yah, of course, more than one will increase your load exponentially. There are workarounds for that, too, such as rendering to PNG's, and then assembling it in Photoshop (which ive had to do on occasion... esp with real cat fur) I know that's probably not going to be ideal for everyone, though.
Thanks Ann, that's good to know.
Pre-ordered V9 bundle.... looks like this might be the best DAZ character yet. I also can't wait to see what our PA's do in the future for this figure.
The original Genesis had UVs for the Millenium 4 figures, but not the Millenium 3 figures. This was because the base Genesis UV was fairly close to the M4/V4 ones. M3/V3 UVs were completely different.
Depending on how close the arm and leg loops of G9 are to those of G8 then in theory G9 could be given a UV set allowing it to use Genesis 3/8 skins. However if those loops are a long way off, that is not going to look good. In that case something like Cayman's legacy UV products that use geografts will be needed.
Thanks, yes. Looking forward to it. Hope the FAQ includes system requirements for rendering 1,2,3, 4+ figures in a scene without dropping from card.
Sorry you're right it was the autofit that I was thinking of.
Can we just get the link from someone?
I posted earlier, I had to step away for only 15 minutes and missed it. I scrolled through the chat and didn't see the link. Then someone posted another link that said it took you to the time, it didn't - it took you to the beginning. Then someone said about 42 minutes in... I've been watching for another 10 minutes starting at 42 and nothing. Now the chat isn't showing again.
All the while I'm starting to stress with the sales how long it actually will be... bah I ordered the bundle. There's too much stress here for the free outfit.
For those of us that watched it with technical difficulties, can we please just get the link?
The link I gave about the 42 minutes in was in regards to the polycount information, not the freebie.
The link is now in the description of the video. Just select More... under the video to expand the description and you will find the link to the freebie there. (THANKS WP Guru and Fugazi!!)
Thank god for those new spine bones. Now it might be possible to get G9 to lie flat on his/her back which was very hard to do with the old models. (or maybe those one-click sleeping poses weren't made that well).
I do find it interesting that Daz has gone back to the original Genesis unified style model with Genesis 9. Have to wonder why Daz decided to go back in that direction.
Yeah I have a RTX 3060 as well and this well yikes from what I am gathering of what others are saying, (have not seen the video lol) and agree in it will probably be a year or so before I jump onboard, like I did with Genesis 3 and Genesis 8.
I am in the same boat with the need for a new base figure, it was a while before I went all in on Genesis 3 and then Genesis 8. On hardware yeah will be interesting to see if my I7 8700K with 32GB and a RTX 3060 could even handle this new figure, since it looks like it will be resource heavy. And true I was more hoping for Studio 5 as well, seems like we will have to continue to wait.![sad sad](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/sad_smile.png)
That would be an issue. In which case a product that uses geografts would be needed, to split the head to use both legacy maps. This should work, but having geografts potentially causes other issues, like working with geoshell products.
Is there some reason 8K skin textures couldn't have been made to work for Genesis 8/8.1?
Or why they had to make a whole new mesh that is incompatible with the thousands of dollars worth of content some of us have already invested in? They couldn't just improve G8/8.1?
We're already getting the base of these generations for free, so what's the benifit of have one non-gendered figure instead of a male and a female base? If the reason is that it makes clothing creation easier or faster, does that mean the price of the clothing is going to drop proportionately?
Couldn't they have just made a new mesh for the head for the increased ability to set expressions - and let us use the new head on the old figures?
If there are going to be products to convert all the assets for the previous generations to work with G9, those products themselves are going to add up to hundreds of dollars.
A foot's a foot. Is it really necessary to keep making the feet of the new figures so the old footwear won't fit them. They made the eyes separate objects, couldn't they make the feet separate objects?
'Gonna be a LONG LONG time before I spend any money on anything that is limited to G9.
The 8k textures look great, just to bad I myself don't need them, I've already been busy resizing 4k textures down to 2k.
The part I did like was the improved scaling of the figure. Those who want to downsize a figure from 6ft to 5ft will see some improvements with the new figures.
Overall, I think I may pass on this generation, my main interest already was G3 over G8 and G8.1, and with converters and those two and a half generations of figures and assets, I have about everything I need.
As far as the 8K skins, sub-D and GPU requirements are concerned, I'd think you wouldn't be using them for anything but single portraits anyway. There would be no logic in doing so for longer distance shots with multople characters.
Oh, they have more use than that. Did you ever make a print on paper of a character? The bigger the print, the worse it looks. G8 using 4k textures on an A4 size paper looks just about decent, but any bigger and the quality of the print goes down. Then you will need bigger renders, and with that, bigger textures. So those making cover art and other illustrations for books or presentations will have a lot of use for these 8k textures. I personally don't, but those people definitely can use 8k textures.
Which only makes me think that it will be quite a while before I need to think about migrating to this new generation. I was thinking about why I felt the need to move from G3 to G8 (even though that took quite a while too) and it boiled down to the fact that there were some interesting characters and dForce clothing appearing in the store for G8 so I got drawn in. However, I have a LOT more content for G8 now than I ever had for G3 and I have a good selection of interesting characters too (mostly those I have made for myself using the morph dials). So, considering the new features are not near the top of my wishlist, I can't see a reason to rush to board the bandwagon any time soon.
I think the reason high heels won't fit is because Daz keeps changing the position of the legs. They did between G3 and G8 and now again between G8 and G9.
FWIW, Fugazi's and Jay's freebie link is now in the description of the video..you don't need to search chat for it.
Thank you for letting us know!!!
Why would I want to pay a month early for a bundle of undisclosed content? I haven't even seen any statement about a lower price for preorder. I see a free bikini and a free older hair refit to Genesis 9 with preorder. So according to Jay's video, that means 2 bikinis. What? Can't she wear "regular" clothing, you know, with sleeves and collars and skirts, etc? I think I'll just let the dust settle and play with the G9 before spending any money on V9. She looks good, and I'm sure I'll eventually buy into some G9, even if it is not V9.
There will be a FAQ and more information released tomorrow
What is included in the bundles has not been announced yet but what you are seeing is just the "bonuses" for pre-ordering, not the full list of contents of the entire bundles. More information on that will be coming (I will resist the temptation to say "soon") ![smiley smiley](https://www.daz3d.com/forums/plugins/ckeditor/js/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/regular_smile.png)
This is good to see. Yes, that unnatural upper arm torsion has been a problem for multiple generations. For humans, all the rotational movements are in the shoulder. The upper arm can only contract and extend the forearm. Beyond that, the upper arm is really just along for whatever ride the shoulder takes it on.
I think announcing the pre-order bundle without listing what is actually in the bundle was bad.
I hate the 'pre-order for something we will not tell you,' when the history of pre-orders over the range of the internet (Not specifically DAZ) is less than exemplary.
I didn't do it for Luminar, and I've spent more on photography than DAZ.