RTX 4000 Officially Revealed

Expozures

Rakete said:

beregar said:

Hrm. I was hoping 3080 card prices would significantly come down with these but they sell for like 1000€ here. Still, the new cards are *much* more pricey than the reference price what with the 16GB 4080s running 1800-2000€ and the 4090 ones 2300-2600€.

I guess I'll wait until the energy crisis is over and prices (hopefully) become reasonable again... seeing that there's snowball's chance in hell I'm spending a month's salary on something as pointless as a graphics card. Yes, would be nice to have one but as long as I can still render with my current one...

The 4090 was just released and those prices are not realistic. Since gpu's are a luxury item now they are scalped and resold at a higher price. You need to wait a little until enough supply is available. Also, since are still plenty of 3000 series cards around, it is in nvidias (and also the retailers) interest to keep the 4000 series scarce and highly priced until the remaining 3000 series stock is sold off.

I don't think scalpers are going to have as good of a time this go-around.  The 30-series launch was the perfect storm for scalpers.  There was a pandemic, and a drought, and a host of other issues that caused production at TSMC (the chip manufacturer) to come to a slow crawl.  Plus, also due to the pandemic, a lot of people were in 'buy stuff for home because I'm gonna be stuck here for a while' mode.  And, there was a boom in the crypto-market.  All those combined made a huge demand for GPUs.  Well, pandemic is over, production issues at TSMC is sorted out, and GPUs can't be used to mine crypto anymore.

Sure, this first splurge of cards got scooped up by scalpers almost immediately, but I'm sure they'll all be sitting on their cards wondering why they're not selling.

I was about to jump on a 4090.  But, they sold out, so I backed off.  Then, I started seeing some of the issues that people have been having since the drivers are still a little flaky.  Daz render times don't seem any better than a 3090Ti, which is disappointing (so, likely Daz-code related at this point, possibly not capable of utilizing the new version of CUDA, I dunno...not a programmer).  Nope.  Gonna hold off for a bit yet.

I do need a VRAM boost.  Feeling a little tired and limited by what I can currently do with 8GB.  Would like to be able to use more complex scenes without it taking 4 hours to render an image.  But, I'll hold off, hone some skills till I see some better results.

Gator

I agree @Expozures I don't think many are going to bite at the sky-high scalper prices.  Much different market conditions right now.

Other render engines saw about a 2x increase, so I imagine we need to wait for Iray and Studio updates to see the full speed of the 4090 in Studio with Iray.

Seems kind of ironic that 3rd party render engines see the uplift right at launch, but us poor saps using Nvidia's own renderer need to wait.  

Expozures

Maybe by the time the stocks stablize, nVidia will have their buggy drivers worked out, and Daz will have a patch to include the new iRay drivers.  I don't know how big of a deal on the back-end of Daz that would be.  Is it just recompile with the updated iray?  Shrug.  Hopefuly it's that easy and we'll see Daz 4.22 in a few months.

Gator

Looks like another RTX Titan may be on the way...  

https://youtu.be/lYt507fu9AA

RayDAnt

Gator said:

Looks like another RTX Titan may be on the way...  

https://youtu.be/lYt507fu9AA

Keep in mind that this rumor dates back to July... 

Mattymanx

On Gamers Nexus YT: 

4090 Teardown:

 

Deep Dive:

 

Benchmark:

 

The benchmark was rather informative imho.  The power draw, calculating in the spikes, can be handeled by high end PSUs even if you have a dual 4090 setup

3DMinh

Last time it took quite a while for the NVIDIA RTX 3000 series to be supported in Daz Studio. I remember the card didn't work at all until a software update. This time the 4090 cards work right away (but not optimized). There is only 1 issue with the dforce but I've heard it's a DRIVER issue, not specifically to the RTX 4090.

I'll wait until a new driver is release and fixes that dforce issue to buy the 4090. Even with half the performance, it would still perform equally to my 3090 and who knows if there are any supply problems this time.

3DMinh

Mattymanx said:

On Gamers Nexus YT: 

4090 Teardown:

 

Deep Dive:

 

Benchmark:

 

The benchmark was rather informative imho.  The power draw, calculating in the spikes, can be handeled by high end PSUs even if you have a dual 4090 setup

I've watched many videos and I think that if you can, you should get a Founder Edition card. The gain from other AIB cards is just not enough to justify the increase in card size and price. EVGA got out the right time.