Victoria 9 HD Pre Purchase Disappointment Issues

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  • shadowhawk1shadowhawk1 Posts: 2,200

    Richard Haseltine said:

    felis said:

    Gator said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    GnotMe said:

    Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

    Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

    @Richard Haseltine

    I tried loading that, it doesn't appear to do anything.  (Which makes sense, it indicates it's a material, not a morph or geograph object). Some people have stated that you need "Genesis 9 Character Essentials".  Is that true?  Normally the gens come with the bundle.

    Yes, the anatomical GeoCraft comes in "Genesis 9 Character Essentials". 

    Yes, I meant that there is no promise of the models - it just says there are materials for them, if you have them from the Character Essentials.

    Nice misleading answer... 

  • OK just got Victoria 9 HD bundle - tested everything all there so far and from what I say so far homerun by DAZ!  I love this character!  

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  • Siciliano1969 said:

    OK just got Victoria 9 HD bundle - tested everything all there so far and from what I say so far homerun by DAZ!  I love this character!  

    Lucky one. So no common solution for everybody. Still not seeing the bundled items as purchased. Ticket is filed since yesterday. Please DAZ give me a happy weekend.

     

  • sberlinssberlins Posts: 128

    ted-berlin said:

    Siciliano1969 said:

    OK just got Victoria 9 HD bundle - tested everything all there so far and from what I say so far homerun by DAZ!  I love this character!  

    Lucky one. So no common solution for everybody. Still not seeing the bundled items as purchased. Ticket is filed since yesterday. Please DAZ give me a happy weekend.

     

    It appears they are getting out in dribs and dabs.  Mine finally showed up also. 

  • Catherine3678ab said:

    This way gives V9 her own day of glory so to speak ;-)

    I'm fairly sure that the morph bundles, etc. will follow over the next weeks, months, etc. as they usually do.

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

     

    If you are refiring to the anatomical elements they are available in The 'Genesis 9 Character Essentials'. Read the description.

    Quoted from store page:

    This product includes:

    • *Includes geometry for anatomical elements. Textures are not included in this product and are provided by certain character products.

    You just don't get matching textures for the default skin textures supplied with Genesis 9.

  • Cruzer3dCruzer3d Posts: 16
    edited October 2022

    Richard Haseltine said:

    GnotMe said:

    Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

    Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

    I haven't been able to find any geometry for male or female gens  in the essential pack . I've checked all files,I have reinstalled both downloads to be sure I'm not missing anything, still nothing. I've looked through all the morphs in parameters and shaping . Maybe I'm just blind. can someone help me

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  • felisfelis Posts: 4,617

    Cruzer3d said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    GnotMe said:

    Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

    Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

    I haven't been able to find any geometry for male or female gens  in the essential pack . I've checked all files,I have reinstalled both downloads to be sure I'm not missing anything, still nothing. I've looked through all the morphs in parameters and shaping . Maybe I'm just blind. can someone help me

    Which essential pack?

    You need to have bought Character Essential to get the geografts. It is not in the starter essentials. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169
    edited October 2022

    Cruzer3d said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    GnotMe said:

    Where are the Anatomical Elements promised on the Victoria 9 HD page ?

    Female Anatomical Elements are listed under Materials.

    I haven't been able to find any geometry for male or female gens  in the essential pack . I've checked all files,I have reinstalled both downloads to be sure I'm not missing anything, still nothing. I've looked through all the morphs in parameters and shaping . Maybe I'm just blind. can someone help me

    Genesis 9/Anatomy/Daz Originals/Base Anatomy 

    And the gens are not in the Starter Essentials package. They are in the Character Essentials package in the store.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    This is pretty much exactly what I expected to happen given the incredibly sparse Initial presentation and the blind buy advance sale promotion for the bundle.  If the product wasn't completely ready for release at that time, as was repeatedly mentioned, it was highly unlikely that the initial roll out was going to be smooth or problem free.  Factor in the increasingly poor performance of DAZ quality control and a store infested with errors on a daily basis, and, well...  

  • sberlins said:

    ted-berlin said:

    Siciliano1969 said:

    OK just got Victoria 9 HD bundle - tested everything all there so far and from what I say so far homerun by DAZ!  I love this character!  

    Lucky one. So no common solution for everybody. Still not seeing the bundled items as purchased. Ticket is filed since yesterday. Please DAZ give me a happy weekend.

     

    It appears they are getting out in dribs and dabs.  Mine finally showed up also. 

     Must be really slow dribs and dabs. But at least i got the freebies some minutes ago in DC. Nothing from the Victoria 9 HD Intro bundle yet angry.

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  • beregarberegar Posts: 269
    edited October 2022

    nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

    I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
    Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.

    As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

    I mostly see complaints about botched presale and issues with people not figuring out the difference between the starter essentials, the character essentials, and what comes with them and what comes with the Victoria bundle. Here I agree Daz dropped the proverbial ball, and it has been more or less a textbook example on how not to handle sales. I'm usually not big on the whole demanding apology thing, unless it comes with a monetary compensation, but I'd be happy to join the torches and pitchforks folks if this happened to me. Actually I do believe Daz should come out and apologize to those who preordered in the form of, say, "Sorry, we screwed up your pre-orders. Here's $15. Get yourself character essentials or something nice" voucher.

    This doesn't affect me, mind you, since I didn't buy Victoria. Even less preordered her.

    It's not because of the skins though. It's just that I don't do a lot of female renders. Yet, I firmly disagree on the skin "issue" and it's mostly the same few people complaining about stuff like that on forums. Still, the forums are hardly a good representative of the situation since people who are unsatisfied tend to be louder here - and I doubt Daz releases any info about how well Victoria sold and/or how many refunds were demanded, and about how many of those were because people didn't like the skin.

    The thing is that there are only so many ways to create a skin with "with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin" (as you put it) before they all look the same and for that we have base skins which do perfectly good job on it in my opinion. I mean how many real skins come blemish free anyway? If you check yours, I bet you have at least a few moles if nothing else. I'd rather have interesting and varied characters and skins, and my concern is that because of the few complains Daz and some PAs might get idea that people don't want such skins. I firmly believe that is not the case. Besides I still believe the idea was partially to illustrate highly detailed skin details.

    This doesn't affect me currently but I'm fully hoping we get some nice and interesting skins with Michael release, too. Now the way how this is implemented is of course up to debate and I'm not against having unblemished base skins (which we technically already have). As long as I also get something more than just a bland basic skin and a character shape for my money.

    YMMV and of course there's always the refund way if you want to protest. It's bound to show Daz your dissatisfaction - or at least the poor (likely overworked) support guy or gal who has to process it manually.

     

    Edit: weird double entry

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  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited October 2022

    Guess what? You can't apply long nails shaping to a Gen9 character because, shockingly...

    Long nails are part of still not yet published G9 body morphs. 

     

    I'm trying to be surprised. wink

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  • Genesis 9 has 4 nice base skins each for male and female.  However, the head morphs to match the icons in the materials section are missing.  Maybe they will come in a morph pack later.

  • PixelSploiting said:

    Guess what? You can't aplly long nails shaping do a Gen9 character because, shockingly...

    Long nails are part of still not yet published G9 body morphs. 

     

    I'm trying to be surprised. wink

    Yeah this roll out is really a very hot mess (used in lieu of the language that needs to be used but is unacceptable here)

  • billyben_0077a25354 said:

    PixelSploiting said:

    Guess what? You can't aplly long nails shaping do a Gen9 character because, shockingly...

    Long nails are part of still not yet published G9 body morphs. 

     

    I'm trying to be surprised. wink

    Yeah this roll out is really a very hot mess (used in lieu of the language that needs to be used but is unacceptable here)

    The worst Genesis Release ever.
    But we should be happy that the Release Day was not on the Weekend :D

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 1,801

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

  • Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    It was pretty much the same as the day one offer, not sure if there has been any change since.

  • Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    Summer Bikini for Genesis 9
    Voss Hair for Genesis 9 

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,141

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    Summer Bikini for Genesis 9
    Voss Hair for Genesis 9 

    Those were the free items we got for watching the live stream introducing her. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,743

    IceCrMn said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    Summer Bikini for Genesis 9
    Voss Hair for Genesis 9 

    Those were the free items we got for watching the live stream introducing her. 

    Not so. Those were free with preorder  $$$. The intro video freebie was a simple outfit.

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,141

    barbult said:

    IceCrMn said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    Summer Bikini for Genesis 9
    Voss Hair for Genesis 9 

    Those were the free items we got for watching the live stream introducing her. 

    Not so. Those were free with preorder  $$$. The intro video freebie was a simple outfit.

    hmm, for some reason I remember those being free for watching one of the live streams.

    I do remember also getting that track/jogging outfit from one of the streams.

    Could be I'm just as confused as everyone else also. Real good chance of that actually.

    It's harvest time here, so I've been putting in 10-15 hour days.Gets easy to lose track of things after a little while.

  • The Caryl Outfit v2 for G9 was for watching the amazing video ;-)

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    IceCrMn said:

    barbult said:

    IceCrMn said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    Ron Knights said:

    What exactly were you supposed to get with the Pre-order bundle?! How did the price and list compare to what is available now?

    Summer Bikini for Genesis 9
    Voss Hair for Genesis 9 

    Those were the free items we got for watching the live stream introducing her. 

    Not so. Those were free with preorder  $$$. The intro video freebie was a simple outfit.

    hmm, for some reason I remember those being free for watching one of the live streams.

    I do remember also getting that track/jogging outfit from one of the streams.

    Could be I'm just as confused as everyone else also. Real good chance of that actually.

    It's harvest time here, so I've been putting in 10-15 hour days.Gets easy to lose track of things after a little while.

    You're mistaken Jay even said the bikini & Voss hair are part of the bundle & not the freebie in his stream. The freebie he gave out in that stream via a link is what you are thinking of.

  • iSeeThisiSeeThis Posts: 552

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

    How do you know that Anatomical Element is sold separately? Where did they announce that?

  • iSeeThis said:

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

    How do you know that Anatomical Element is sold separately? Where did they announce that?

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-character-essentials

     

  • iSeeThisiSeeThis Posts: 552

    Catherine3678ab said:

    iSeeThis said:

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

    How do you know that Anatomical Element is sold separately? Where did they announce that?

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-character-essentials

    Thank you very much. I really am not aware of that. Expected that it's surely included in Vicky9 Bundle and thought that it was missed due to DAZ's mistake or something.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169
    edited October 2022

    Maybe by the time Daz gets around to releasing the morphs I'll have all my own head morphs done. cheeky

    Some nose and eye morphs. Haven't started on the other parts of the face yet.

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  • iSeeThis said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    iSeeThis said:

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

    How do you know that Anatomical Element is sold separately? Where did they announce that?

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-character-essentials

    Thank you very much. I really am not aware of that. Expected that it's surely included in Vicky9 Bundle and thought that it was missed due to DAZ's mistake or something.

    No problem, many of us did. Comes with 2 zips, one for all the eyes, etc. and then one for the a.e.

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    iSeeThis said:

    Catherine3678ab said:

    iSeeThis said:

    I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

    How do you know that Anatomical Element is sold separately? Where did they announce that?

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-character-essentials

    Thank you very much. I really am not aware of that. Expected that it's surely included in Vicky9 Bundle and thought that it was missed due to DAZ's mistake or something.

    No matching textures though!
  • Have the freebies still waiting on the Victoria 9 HD bundle to show in Product Library

    No word from CS on ticket 

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