Game of Thrones Digital Collection...What would I be getting?

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  • cathan01_wwg1wga said:

    I never watched the show, and even I know the final season of the first GoT series is much hated. So... why did Daz think this was a good idea...?

    Because it is still, far and away, the best world, story, and characters in this type of setting and immensely popular. In spite of the drivel that was seasons 7 and 8, there are 6 other seasons of exquisite storytelling. Anything not handled by the Dumb-And-Dumber team of David Benioff and D.B. Weiss where GRRM's original material is respected, is just gold.

  • TimotheusTimotheus Posts: 246
    edited January 2023

    TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

    cathan01_wwg1wga said:

    I never watched the show, and even I know the final season of the first GoT series is much hated. So... why did Daz think this was a good idea...?

    Because it is still, far and away, the best world, story, and characters in this type of setting and immensely popular. In spite of the drivel that was seasons 7 and 8, there are 6 other seasons of exquisite storytelling. Anything not handled by the Dumb-And-Dumber team of David Benioff and D.B. Weiss where GRRM's original material is respected, is just gold.

    And, honestly, even seasons 7 and 8 are better than a lot of fantasy viewing available out there.

    Not that I think this Daz move was a good call in any way. Bit of an eye roller....

     

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  • These GoT NFTs are getting slaughted on social media and apparently 40% is already up for resale (and that was two days ago), I guess there are going to be heated discussions between the partners that made these. As for now I'm seeing Nifty's is gettng the majority of the blame on social media.

  • BlueFingers said:

    These GoT NFTs are getting slaughted on social media and apparently 40% is already up for resale (and that was two days ago), I guess there are going to be heated discussions between the partners that made these. As for now I'm seeing Nifty's is gettng the majority of the blame on social media.

    Why would Nifty's get the blame? They're just the broker right? They didn't create the junk.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    I looked a little more into it... I thought the original comments about the pictured character were in reference to the accessories floating in the air... I thought maybe he was some demonic character with supernaturally long fingers like old 1920s Nosferatu and he was supposed to loook like that... having never seen a full episode I had no idea.

    But this pretty much sums up NFTs at this point.

    Reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a video camera from a street hustler in lower Manhattan during the 80s... When he opened the shrink wrapped box he found it stuffed with newspaper, holding in place a filthy brick which provided the convincing weight.

    Whenever he told the story, he seemed as pissed by the fact they didn't even bother to use a clean brick as to the fact he got ripped off.

    It was like if you are going to rip me off, at least don't add insult to injury...?

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick because he used to own his mistakes and stupidity and according to him "what else are going to do with a fifty dollar brick"...

    I kinda feel that story is a good metaphor for NFTs at this point...

    A worthless box with a dirty brick inside.

  • ColinFrench said:

    BlueFingers said:

    These GoT NFTs are getting slaughted on social media and apparently 40% is already up for resale (and that was two days ago), I guess there are going to be heated discussions between the partners that made these. As for now I'm seeing Nifty's is gettng the majority of the blame on social media.

    Why would Nifty's get the blame? They're just the broker right? They didn't create the junk.

    I don't know, but from what I've seen they did a bit more promotion on social media for the launch, fhey also did a NFT series with a "The Matrix"- theme that was not particularly well received by the NFT community, so it could be a combination of visibility and bad blood set by a previous project.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,495

    BlueFingers said:

    ColinFrench said:

    BlueFingers said:

    These GoT NFTs are getting slaughted on social media and apparently 40% is already up for resale (and that was two days ago), I guess there are going to be heated discussions between the partners that made these. As for now I'm seeing Nifty's is gettng the majority of the blame on social media.

    Why would Nifty's get the blame? They're just the broker right? They didn't create the junk.

    I don't know, but from what I've seen they did a bit more promotion on social media for the launch, fhey also did a NFT series with a "The Matrix"- theme that was not particularly well received by the NFT community, so it could be a combination of visibility and bad blood set by a previous project.

    Keanu didn't exactly help them with his comments on NFTs either cheeky

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    LOLs... NFTs... you really got to watch your metaphors around them.

  • McGyver said:

    I looked a little more into it... I thought the original comments about the pictured character were in reference to the accessories floating in the air... I thought maybe he was some demonic character with supernaturally long fingers like old 1920s Nosferatu and he was supposed to loook like that... having never seen a full episode I had no idea.

    But this pretty much sums up NFTs at this point.

    Reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a video camera from a street hustler in lower Manhattan during the 80s... When he opened the shrink wrapped box he found it stuffed with newspaper, holding in place a filthy brick which provided the convincing weight.

    Whenever he told the story, he seemed as pissed by the fact they didn't even bother to use a clean brick as to the fact he got ripped off.

    It was like if you are going to rip me off, at least don't add insult to injury...?

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick because he used to own his mistakes and stupidity and according to him "what else are going to do with a fifty dollar brick"...

    I kinda feel that story is a good metaphor for NFTs at this point...

    A worthless box with a dirty brick inside.

    Someday that Canal Street Brick will be worth $51, you'll see!

    (After all, with the way supply chain issues are affecting the building materials market these days...)

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,018
    edited January 2023

    McGyver said:

    I looked a little more into it... I thought the original comments about the pictured character were in reference to the accessories floating in the air... I thought maybe he was some demonic character with supernaturally long fingers like old 1920s Nosferatu and he was supposed to loook like that... having never seen a full episode I had no idea.

    But this pretty much sums up NFTs at this point.

    Reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a video camera from a street hustler in lower Manhattan during the 80s... When he opened the shrink wrapped box he found it stuffed with newspaper, holding in place a filthy brick which provided the convincing weight.

    Whenever he told the story, he seemed as pissed by the fact they didn't even bother to use a clean brick as to the fact he got ripped off.

    It was like if you are going to rip me off, at least don't add insult to injury...?

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick because he used to own his mistakes and stupidity and according to him "what else are going to do with a fifty dollar brick"...

    I kinda feel that story is a good metaphor for NFTs at this point...

    A worthless box with a dirty brick inside.

    That story is a good metaphor for the last three years, except people are bragging about "this cool brick that only cost me 50 bucks," after accusing others of being stupid for not buying one.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,171

    McGyver said:

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick

    To be fair, I can't imagine the street hustler offered returns.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,198
    edited January 2023

    BlueFingers said:

    Tomhip said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    BlueFingers said:

    They are NFTs for peope who like Game of Thrones and still think owning NFTs is a cool idea.

    Ah..., that would explain everything.smiley  Brick salesman on the Titanic handing out samples.indecision

     

    That at least leaves you with a nice brick.... not a picture of a brick :D

    They look like this LOL! Also, the gentleman really resembles a northerner from Westeros:

    Doesn't look fungible at all!

    ...maybe fungal?  

     

    ...and I  thought the whole NFT thing here was about to go the way of the Daz Season Pass. 

    Then again I thought SUVs would be just another passing automotive fad like fender skirts, whitewalls, fake hood scoops, opera windows, and "T" tops.  Crikey, even Bentley and Rolls Royce are making them. 

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,198

    McGyver said:

    I looked a little more into it... I thought the original comments about the pictured character were in reference to the accessories floating in the air... I thought maybe he was some demonic character with supernaturally long fingers like old 1920s Nosferatu and he was supposed to loook like that... having never seen a full episode I had no idea.

    But this pretty much sums up NFTs at this point.

    Reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a video camera from a street hustler in lower Manhattan during the 80s... When he opened the shrink wrapped box he found it stuffed with newspaper, holding in place a filthy brick which provided the convincing weight.

    Whenever he told the story, he seemed as pissed by the fact they didn't even bother to use a clean brick as to the fact he got ripped off.

    It was like if you are going to rip me off, at least don't add insult to injury...?

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick because he used to own his mistakes and stupidity and according to him "what else are going to do with a fifty dollar brick"...

    I kinda feel that story is a good metaphor for NFTs at this point...

    A worthless box with a dirty brick inside.

    ...yes 

  • Timotheus said:

    TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

    cathan01_wwg1wga said:

    I never watched the show, and even I know the final season of the first GoT series is much hated. So... why did Daz think this was a good idea...?

    Because it is still, far and away, the best world, story, and characters in this type of setting and immensely popular. In spite of the drivel that was seasons 7 and 8, there are 6 other seasons of exquisite storytelling. Anything not handled by the Dumb-And-Dumber team of David Benioff and D.B. Weiss where GRRM's original material is respected, is just gold.

    And, honestly, even seasons 7 and 8 are better than a lot of fantasy viewing available out there.

    I have to admit that you are right... I'd still prefer to watch not-as-good-as-GRRM GoT than say, The Wheel of Time. I quite enjoyed The Rings of Power; it was The Wheel of Time that was the stinker, as far as I'm concerned. How do you screw up Robert Jordan, for the love of all there is?

     

  • kyoto kid said:

    BlueFingers said:

    Tomhip said:

    LeatherGryphon said:

    BlueFingers said:

    They are NFTs for peope who like Game of Thrones and still think owning NFTs is a cool idea.

    Ah..., that would explain everything.smiley  Brick salesman on the Titanic handing out samples.indecision

     

    That at least leaves you with a nice brick.... not a picture of a brick :D

    They look like this LOL! Also, the gentleman really resembles a northerner from Westeros:

    Doesn't look fungible at all!

    ...maybe fungal?  

     

    ...and I  thought the whole NFT thing here was about to go the way of the Daz Season Pass. 

    Then again I thought SUVs would be just another passing automotive fad like fender skirts, whitewalls, fake hood scoops, opera windows, and "T" tops.  Crikey, even Bentley and Rolls Royce are making them. 

    OMG, I didn't look at this one closely, before. The execution aside, how did this concept even fly? He is literally NOONE in the series. The closest I can think of is Xaro Xhoan Daxos, and that is simply not Xaro Xhoan Daxos. What is really going on here?

     

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,550
    Maybe that pirate who was friends with onion knight guy idk? Anyway the worst part isnt that the character is a Literally Who of westeros, nor that design sucks, concept sucks, execution sucks, but rather that they failed at all levels, revealing the project to be a quick and predatory money grab masquerading as a venture with some artistic merit.
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,737

    The examples I've seen are just stiff, barely posed characters, poorly lit, and pasted on top of one of several backdrops. Who would want these? The fact that people had to buy them sight unseen is really a shame. I wonder if anyone was not disappointed in what they got.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,550

    theyre really not sending their best are they

  • Korpin.SulatKorpin.Sulat Posts: 414
    edited January 2023

    TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

     

    OMG, I didn't look at this one closely, before. The execution aside, how did this concept even fly? He is literally NOONE in the series. The closest I can think of is Xaro Xhoan Daxos, and that is simply not Xaro Xhoan Daxos. What is really going on here?

     

    My thought was a Klingon from the original Star Trek series kitted with a Sims glitch. Dressed like someone who's barely too not-peasant for Trogdor to burninate, but probably should anyway to put him out of his misery.

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,648
    edited January 2023

    Blando Calrissian said:

    McGyver said:

    I looked a little more into it... I thought the original comments about the pictured character were in reference to the accessories floating in the air... I thought maybe he was some demonic character with supernaturally long fingers like old 1920s Nosferatu and he was supposed to loook like that... having never seen a full episode I had no idea.

    But this pretty much sums up NFTs at this point.

    Reminds me of a friend of mine who bought a video camera from a street hustler in lower Manhattan during the 80s... When he opened the shrink wrapped box he found it stuffed with newspaper, holding in place a filthy brick which provided the convincing weight.

    Whenever he told the story, he seemed as pissed by the fact they didn't even bother to use a clean brick as to the fact he got ripped off.

    It was like if you are going to rip me off, at least don't add insult to injury...?

    In the end he kept and displayed the brick because he used to own his mistakes and stupidity and according to him "what else are going to do with a fifty dollar brick"...

    I kinda feel that story is a good metaphor for NFTs at this point...

    A worthless box with a dirty brick inside.

    Someday that Canal Street Brick will be worth $51, you'll see!

    (After all, with the way supply chain issues are affecting the building materials market these days...)

    Hmmm..., regarding my earlier comment on page #1, it seems like the brick salesman from the Titanic survived and is still hawking bricks in Manhattan.surprise 

    Duh..., of course he survived, he gave away all his samples to the suckers.cheeky

    And have you checked the price of hardware lately?frown  indecision

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • JoeQuickJoeQuick Posts: 1,717
    edited January 2023

    Hello everyone,

    I apologize that this is going to seem super off topic, but it eventually gets there. I wanted to share my story with you all.

    I stumbled upon Poser in the late 2000s and used it as an aid for drawing. When I couldn't find the content I wanted to draw, I learned to create it myself. At the time, I was working as a high school English teacher.

    A couple of years later, I started selling my content on Rendo and later moved to Daz. As a hobby, using Daz allowed me to put down a down payment on a house, remodel my front porch, and even put aside over $100,000 for my child before he even reached Kindergarten. The fact that his grandparents were able to watch him, and we didn't have to pay for childcare until he was 4, also helped a lot.

    13 years into my job as a teacher, I was earning around $40,000 per year from my actual career. Interestingly, the state raised the minimum wage for teachers to around the same amount at that time.

    Then, in 2020, the pandemic hit. My school reopened in August of that year, but my son's school didn't reopen until August 2021. My principal had promised that I would be able to work remotely if the status of the two districts didn't converge, but the superintendent didn't agree. I had done good work for my district, I took over a yearbook program with $30,000 in debt (impressive when the student body was under 300 kids) and was able to pay it off. Additionally, I started an AP Lit course at a school where over 50% of the population was living below the poverty line. The course achieved an 85% pass rate in its first year, while the national average was about 49%. I did all of this with no funding or resources, and was still able to match or surpass the achievement of far more affluent districts in the area.

    However, the superintendent wouldn't allow me to work remotely so that I could help take care of my son's education (since his school was only offering two hours of online instruction a day) and continue to help my own students thrive. Instead, he wanted to replace me with an online course (think about it for a minute).

    I returned to my classroom in August.  I went on leave in October.  In January I resigned.

    Thanks to Daz, I was able to be the teacher my son needed and increase my annual earnings by over 50%. Two years ago, I was a high school teacher who wasn't valued by anyone but his students. This year, I designed official merchandise for Time Warner.  I made the Night King, the White Walker and their outfits.

    That’s what I think about the GOT NFTs.

    Just wanted to share my story and thoughts on it.

    Post edited by JoeQuick on
  • Shouldn't this thread be moved to the NFT section? 

  • If it needs to be moved, it can.  Now that I know what it's all about, its a sure thing I am not planning on grabbing a digital trading card of food :-/

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,633

    Two years ago, I was a high school teacher who wasn't valued by anyone but his students. This year, I designed official merchandise for Time Warner.

    That’s what I think about the GOT NFTs.

     

    And you are more valuable as an English teacher than anyone who has anything to do with the absurdity and uselessness that are NFTs. 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,737
    edited January 2023

    JoeQuick said:

    Hello everyone,

    I apologize that this is going to seem super off topic, but it eventually gets there. I wanted to share my story with you all.

    I stumbled upon Poser in the late 2000s and used it as an aid for drawing. When I couldn't find the content I wanted to draw, I learned to create it myself. At the time, I was working as a high school English teacher.

    A couple of years later, I started selling my content on Rendo and later moved to Daz. As a hobby, using Daz allowed me to put down a down payment on a house, remodel my front porch, and even put aside over $100,000 for my child before he even reached Kindergarten. The fact that his grandparents were able to watch him, and we didn't have to pay for childcare until he was 4, also helped a lot.

    13 years into my job as a teacher, I was earning around $40,000 per year from my actual career. Interestingly, the state raised the minimum wage for teachers to around the same amount at that time.

    Then, in 2020, the pandemic hit. My school reopened in August of that year, but my son's school didn't reopen until August 2021. My principal had promised that I would be able to work remotely if the status of the two districts didn't converge, but the superintendent didn't agree. I had done good work for my district, I took over a yearbook program with $30,000 in debt (impressive when the student body was under 300 kids) and was able to pay it off. Additionally, I started an AP Lit course at a school where over 50% of the population was living below the poverty line. The course achieved an 85% pass rate in its first year, while the national average was about 49%. I did all of this with no funding or resources, and was still able to match or surpass the achievement of far more affluent districts in the area.

    However, the superintendent wouldn't allow me to work remotely so that I could help take care of my son's education (since his school was only offering two hours of online instruction a day) and continue to help my own students thrive. Instead, he wanted to replace me with an online course (think about it for a minute).

    So, I resigned.

    Thanks to Daz, I was able to be the teacher my son needed and increase my annual earnings by over 50%. Two years ago, I was a high school teacher who wasn't valued by anyone but his students. This year, I designed official merchandise for Time Warner.

    That’s what I think about the GOT NFTs.

    Just wanted to share my story and thoughts on it.

    That is an interesting personal story, but it doesn't say anything about what you think about the GOT NFTs themselves (the end result product). I haven't seen any of the characteristic JoeQuick creativity and imagination in the GOT NFT samples I've seen. It was a career opportunity for you and others - maybe a lucrative one, depending on how the compensation was structured. I'm not sure it was a resume enhancer, though, based on community response to the end result. I hope you will continue to develop characters for Daz Studio, where your unique vision shines through.

    Post edited by barbult on
  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,067
    edited January 2023

    Can't help but notice that the term "NFT" is not used once on the promo page. Isn't that interesting...

    Joe, you saw an opportunity to make a better life for yourself and you took it, no one is going to begrudge you that and I'm genuinely happy it's working out for you. But that story doesn't say anything about the quality of the end product.

    I'm sorry, but what am I looking at?

     

    Post edited by Hylas on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,309

    Hylas said:

    Can't help but notice that the term "NFT" is not used once on the promo page. Isn't that interesting...

    Joe, you saw an opportunity to make a better life for yourself and you took it, no one is going to begrudge you that and I'm genuinely happy it's working out for you. But that story doesn't say anything about the quality of the end product.

    I'm sorry, but what am I looking at?

     

    The "resource" cards like that meat one are made using modified stock photos from, at least in one case, Shutterstock.   The "story" cards were made with publicity photos from the TV series.  They're supposed to be of some use in an eventual game created around these things.  While it's great that some PAs got to make a few bucks creating assets for this project, the character "hero" card renders look pretty uninspired.

    At least one more release of these things has been announced, and one would expect that some lessons will have been learned from what's happened here.  I've no doubt that there will be some uncomfortable conversations on the topic among the parties concerned.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,495
    edited January 2023

    Hylas said:

    Can't help but notice that the term "NFT" is not used once on the promo page. Isn't that interesting...

    Joe, you saw an opportunity to make a better life for yourself and you took it, no one is going to begrudge you that and I'm genuinely happy it's working out for you. But that story doesn't say anything about the quality of the end product.

    I'm sorry, but what am I looking at?

     

    for me it's the whole NFT concept not the art

    (except in this case it was also the carelessness of the DAZ user of the product that made that subpar too, I am pretty sure Joe knows to adjust figure to rigging space) 

    noone is denying Beeple and Banksy etc are Artists

    there exists ownership laws where one can buy a commisioned piece of digital artwork and actually own and it's usage set in law

    (say hello to Getty images and their lawyers if you wrongfully use something THEY own for example and rightfully so)

    it not a Blockchain entry that does not include ownership of the actual art, it is rights to usage of a piece of work

    I might add

    if they were physical trading cards nobody would be showing negativity

    Hell I would collect them myself if I could afford to

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,172

    Hylas said:

    Can't help but notice that the term "NFT" is not used once on the promo page. Isn't that interesting...

    Joe, you saw an opportunity to make a better life for yourself and you took it, no one is going to begrudge you that and I'm genuinely happy it's working out for you. But that story doesn't say anything about the quality of the end product.

    I'm sorry, but what am I looking at?

     

    Raw meat of some sort; qualifes as 'food' only after prep unless you're a large cat/dog/wolf of some sort.

    I restate my opinion on NFTs - given that they are just links pointing to some image you don't have any rights to on a server you have no control over my maximum offer is $1.00 US total and that includes coverage of any and all transaction/minting fees.

    And a question - the NFT is the collectable; not the image it points to (I can download the image any time I want) - so how does one publicly display the NFT (not the cruddy image it points to!) in such a way that people realize you are displaying a true collector's item that cost real money?

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