GTX 1080 Iray support?

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  • The GTX1070 renders well and fast. OptiX Prime Acceleration is still a no-go for me (and I assume for more people), it completely shatters the viewport render into weird pieces. Untick this and you're good to go, buckle up! wink

  • chemicq said:

    The GTX1070 renders well and fast. OptiX Prime Acceleration is still a no-go for me (and I assume for more people), it completely shatters the viewport render into weird pieces. Untick this and you're good to go, buckle up! wink

    Although I've had mixed experience as far as speeding up is concerned I've never had OptiX affect the final result - what CPU are you using, I seem to recall odd things happening at one stage when it was combined with an AMD CPU.

  • jnwggsjnwggs Posts: 89
    edited October 2016

    Just downloaded the latest public beta build (4.9.3.117) and I can now use iray rendering with my GTX 1070, and it's pretty damn quick. Replaced my two GTX670s with the 1070, and the singe 1070 is way quicker on the same scene rendered in iray than both the 670s. Now I'll definitely pick up a second 1070 in December.

    Where did you download it from? I can't find it anywhere. Does it update to the latest version through Daz update? I logged on to the updater and it downloaded the beta version again, but it isn't the 117 version...

     

    Edit: I got it. It doesn't automatically install using the updater even though the box to do so is checked.

     

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  • mrron2mrron2 Posts: 32

    Please Help,

    when i started the new public beta all is ok, but when i will rendring in iray daz shows error and shut down.

    i have a AMD Phenom x6 1090t and a GTX 1080 thx.

  • mrron2 said:

    Please Help,

    when i started the new public beta all is ok, but when i will rendring in iray daz shows error and shut down.

    i have a AMD Phenom x6 1090t and a GTX 1080 thx.

    Are you rendering with CPU, GPU or both? Check Render Settings' Advanced tab.

  • PiscesdreamsPiscesdreams Posts: 91
    edited October 2016

    Wonderful news! I just went and bought a 1080 and new PSU for good measure.  I will be upgrading from an Asus GTX 760 3GB, so I hope to see a difference.  I am downloading the beta now and will run a scene render and then install the new hardware, compare with a new render and post the results here as soon as possible.

     

    UPDATE: My test scene rendered in 1:46 at 4K resolution, 1000 iterations, qualityX1 and reached 61 degress celsius on the GTX 760.  On the GTX 1080, the same scene rendered in 0:38 and reached 41 degress celsius. Outstanding! (OptiX WAS enabled in all renders and works fine for me.)

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  • Gave it a test in 960x1080, 2686 iterations.

    1080 =  7m01s

    980ti = 5m20s.

    1080+980ti = 3m06s.

  • mrron2mrron2 Posts: 32

     

    mrron2 said:

    Please Help,

    when i started the new public beta all is ok, but when i will rendring in iray daz shows error and shut down.

    i have a AMD Phenom x6 1090t and a GTX 1080 thx.

    Are you rendering with CPU, GPU or both? Check Render Settings' Advanced tab.

    First both and then only GPU.    The Error says something about iray.dll or similar. I am now on work i can it not right now.

    And my GPU driver is the 375.63  WHQL

    Thank you

  • redid this render think first version of don't call her babe via cpu was bit over an hour this version took using 2x gtx 1080s took 23.46 have another scene hello ladies here's johnny which tookjust over 2 hours via cpu had a lot of characters in it but can't load it something wrong with bethany 7 can't find her files

    don't call her babe - 23.46 mintue render via 2x gtx 1080 iray version.jpg
    1669 x 2160 - 2M
  • mrron2mrron2 Posts: 32

    redid this render think first version of don't call her babe via cpu was bit over an hour this version took using 2x gtx 1080s took 23.46 have another scene hello ladies here's johnny which tookjust over 2 hours via cpu had a lot of characters in it but can't load it something wrong with bethany 7 can't find her files

    Nice ! Did you use the 375.63 Driver or 372.xx?

  • js-kenjs-ken Posts: 8

    Gave it a test in 960x1080, 2686 iterations.

    1080 =  7m01s

    980ti = 5m20s.

    1080+980ti = 3m06s.

    Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu. It will be good to see some results: 980 vs 1070 vs 980ti vs 1080. Waiting for more benchmarks.smiley

  • Heyas

    First thing - *many* thanks to DAZ3D for just getting on with getting the 10 series Iray support into the beta. Cheers chaps! No issues to report so far.

    Secondly, testing various configs of my existing GTX780Ti and new GTX1070 with Sickleyield's Iray Test Scene and 375.63 Nvidia Drivers, I get:

    1070 no Optix - 7 minutes 3.83 seconds
    780Ti with Optix - 4 minutes 16.0 seconds
    1070 with Optix - 3 minutes 39.91 seconds
    1070+780Ti with Optix - 2 minutes 11.21 seconds
    1070+780Ti+CPU with Optix - 1 minutes 58.56 seconds

    Of course, bigger images will need more RAM, so I'll normally just use the 1070 with Optix (it's got 8Gb, the 780Ti's 3Gb will probably limit things) - but so far, so good. However, for images that do fit the 780Ti, the "kitchen sink" combo looks surprisingly good.

    Cheers
    Al/PB

  • prixatprixat Posts: 1,588
    edited October 2016
     Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu.

    That's comparing a Ti card to a non-Ti card.
    We don't know if there will be a 1080 Ti, but if there is, it's probably not till next year when it will be timed to spoil the launch of the new AMD cards! devil

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited October 2016

    Gave it a test in 960x1080, 2686 iterations.

    1080 =  7m01s

    980ti = 5m20s.

    1080+980ti = 3m06s.

    Thanks for posting your results.

    ... but, the hype was greater than the actual different.

    prixat said:
     Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu.

    That's comparing a Ti card to a non-Ti card.
    We don't know if there will be a 1080 Ti, but if there is, it's probably not till next year when it will be timed to spoil the launch of the new AMD cards! devil


    No quite; it's comparing an older generation card to a new generation card.

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  • prixatprixat Posts: 1,588
    nicstt said:
    ... but, the hype was greater than the actual different.
    prixat said:
     Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu.

    That's comparing a Ti card to a non-Ti card.
    We don't know if there will be a 1080 Ti, but if there is, it's probably not till next year when it will be timed to spoil the launch of the new AMD cards! devil


    No quite; it's comparing an older generation card to a new generation card.

    Just positing a reason why the older card being much faster then the newer card is due to an unfair comparison. smiley

    Comparing it to a plain 980 would be more accurate.

  • mrron2 said:

    redid this render think first version of don't call her babe via cpu was bit over an hour this version took using 2x gtx 1080s took 23.46 have another scene hello ladies here's johnny which tookjust over 2 hours via cpu had a lot of characters in it but can't load it something wrong with bethany 7 can't find her files

    Nice ! Did you use the 375.63 Driver or 372.xx?

    thanks think 375 keep my drivers up to date also had cpu deselected so I knew I was actually using the cards 

  • js-kenjs-ken Posts: 8
    nicstt said:
     
    prixat said:
     Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu.

    That's comparing a Ti card to a non-Ti card.
    We don't know if there will be a 1080 Ti, but if there is, it's probably not till next year when it will be timed to spoil the launch of the new AMD cards! devil


    No quite; it's comparing an older generation card to a new generation card.

    Maybe, but what is final result for rendering, I think it is completed rendered picture. So in some case I don't care about gpu architecture(Pascal or Maxwell), we need fast rendering speed. And today you can buy 980 ti around ~500$, but 1080 ~700$. 1080ti I think will be around ~ 900$. In this case 980ti have lowest cost per CUDA core, that mean no point to upgrading, or even build new PC for rendering on gtx1080. Yes I know, just for now Pascal Gpu not optimized (and new Daz studio is only beta release). But for one who will build new PC machine, or needs new GPU this question is actual (980 vs 1070 vs 980ti vs 1080)

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,505
    edited October 2016
    mrron2 said:

    redid this render think first version of don't call her babe via cpu was bit over an hour this version took using 2x gtx 1080s took 23.46 have another scene hello ladies here's johnny which tookjust over 2 hours via cpu had a lot of characters in it but can't load it something wrong with bethany 7 can't find her files

    Nice ! Did you use the 375.63 Driver or 372.xx?

    thanks think 375 keep my drivers up to date also had cpu deselected so I knew I was actually using the cards 

    updat just rendered this again this time clicked cpu, optix prime acceleration, and my 2x GTX 1080 cards but disabled sli as others suggest doing clocked in at 15 minutes 37 seconds

    ok just did another rerender with all the above selected but also re-enabled sli on my 2 gtx1080 cards and this time the render time was 15minutes and 15 seconds sooo it seems sli doesn't hinder render times like everybody has mentioned previously in using 2 or more cards in sli and that you should disable sli in this case sli was faster only by 15 seconds but still 

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  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335
    mrron2 said:

    redid this render think first version of don't call her babe via cpu was bit over an hour this version took using 2x gtx 1080s took 23.46 have another scene hello ladies here's johnny which tookjust over 2 hours via cpu had a lot of characters in it but can't load it something wrong with bethany 7 can't find her files

    Nice ! Did you use the 375.63 Driver or 372.xx?

    thanks think 375 keep my drivers up to date also had cpu deselected so I knew I was actually using the cards 

    updat just rendered this again this time clicked cpu, optix prime acceleration, and my 2x GTX 1080 cards but disabled sli as others suggest doing clocked in at 15 minutes 37 seconds

    ok just did another rerender with all the above selected but also re-enabled sli on my 2 gtx1080 cards and this time the render time was 15minutes and 15 seconds sooo it seems sli doesn't hinder render times like everybody has mentioned previously in using 2 or more cards in sli and that you should disable sli in this case sli was faster only by 15 seconds but still 

    SLI doesn't slow Iray down (usually) but it can make Iray less stable (more prone to crash.)  This is why it is recommended to disable SLI when rendering in Iray.

  • hphoenix said:
    mrron2 said:

     

    SLI doesn't slow Iray down (usually) but it can make Iray less stable (more prone to crash.)  This is why it is recommended to disable SLI when rendering in Iray.

    well only early days so far so I might leave sli on for now unless it starts crashing then who knows maybe sli is more stable with these new cards at least we can finally use them to iray render besides gaming and other stuff only problem I'm having with the new daz is it can't locate my bethany 7 files and she and her addon characters are featured in a scene I'd like to rerender with this setup which features around 40 g3 and g2 ladies with one g3m I rendered via cpu that took 2 hours 2 mintues to render be a good test to compare times

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    hphoenix said:
    mrron2 said:

     

    SLI doesn't slow Iray down (usually) but it can make Iray less stable (more prone to crash.)  This is why it is recommended to disable SLI when rendering in Iray.

    well only early days so far so I might leave sli on for now unless it starts crashing then who knows maybe sli is more stable with these new cards at least we can finally use them to iray render besides gaming and other stuff only problem I'm having with the new daz is it can't locate my bethany 7 files and she and her addon characters are featured in a scene I'd like to rerender with this setup which features around 40 g3 and g2 ladies with one g3m I rendered via cpu that took 2 hours 2 mintues to render be a good test to compare times

     

    disabling in software is supposed to work; I don't bother having it set up as rarely play games.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited October 2016
    js-ken said:
    nicstt said:
     
    prixat said:
     Hmm,  980ti faster then 1080... Sounds bad for Pascal Gpu.

    That's comparing a Ti card to a non-Ti card.
    We don't know if there will be a 1080 Ti, but if there is, it's probably not till next year when it will be timed to spoil the launch of the new AMD cards! devil


    No quite; it's comparing an older generation card to a new generation card.

    Maybe, but what is final result for rendering, I think it is completed rendered picture. So in some case I don't care about gpu architecture(Pascal or Maxwell), we need fast rendering speed. And today you can buy 980 ti around ~500$, but 1080 ~700$. 1080ti I think will be around ~ 900$. In this case 980ti have lowest cost per CUDA core, that mean no point to upgrading, or even build new PC for rendering on gtx1080. Yes I know, just for now Pascal Gpu not optimized (and new Daz studio is only beta release). But for one who will build new PC machine, or needs new GPU this question is actual (980 vs 1070 vs 980ti vs 1080)

    True enough, but if my one-off test on my 980ti is the norm, the new drivers give a performance boost So that eats into the 'gains' that the 10 series cards give. I'm thinking I'd sooner invest in a xeon system. cause GPU RAM is still an issue, even with 8; hell 12 can be, although in my case very rarely.

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  • mrron2mrron2 Posts: 32

    Hello i have a crash when i was rendering in Iray.

    What does it mean? I have 0 CUDAS? And Why Geometry memory consumption: 14.7739 MiB?

    Rendering in NVIDIA Iray

     

    Compiling Shaders - 0/1

    Rendering image

    Rendering...

    Iray VERBOSE - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.4 IRAY rend progr: CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080): Processing scene...

    Iray VERBOSE - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.7 IRAY rend stat : Geometry memory consumption: 14.7739 MiB (device 0), 0 B (host)

  • mrron2 said:

    Hello i have a crash when i was rendering in Iray.

    What does it mean? I have 0 CUDAS? And Why Geometry memory consumption: 14.7739 MiB?

    Rendering in NVIDIA Iray

     

    Compiling Shaders - 0/1

    Rendering image

    Rendering...

    Iray VERBOSE - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.4 IRAY rend progr: CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080): Processing scene...

    Iray VERBOSE - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.7 IRAY rend stat : Geometry memory consumption: 14.7739 MiB (device 0), 0 B (host)

    Need more info? What operating system, how much ram, what nvidia video card and which nvidia drivers, also which version of daz studio?

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,145

    Device 0 is your gtx 1080 card, and the scene is taking up 14.7 MB for the geometry on that card. If you have multiple cards you will have an entry for each card, numbered from 0 - on my system, CUDA device 0 is my 1080 and CUDA device 1 is my 980 ti.

  • jnwggsjnwggs Posts: 89

    Gave it a test in 960x1080, 2686 iterations.

    1080 =  7m01s

    980ti = 5m20s.

    1080+980ti = 3m06s.

    Not much of a test really. Comparing a GPU with 2816 cuda cores to a GPU with 2560 cuda cores. You'd have to have the same number of cuda cores to honestly test the difference between the generations.

     

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    jnwggs said:

    Gave it a test in 960x1080, 2686 iterations.

    1080 =  7m01s

    980ti = 5m20s.

    1080+980ti = 3m06s.

    Not much of a test really. Comparing a GPU with 2816 cuda cores to a GPU with 2560 cuda cores. You'd have to have the same number of cuda cores to honestly test the difference between the generations.

    These results may not be representative, but 10% more CUDA cores yielding 24% quicker render time seems enough to be significant.

  • Jenkins3DJenkins3D Posts: 106
    edited October 2016

    I just bought a 1080, updated all drivers and upgraded my Daz to latest version and as soon as I try to render in Iray, it crashes. I have a Phenom AMD, 8 gb ram and Win 7. If the scene is empty its fine but as soon as an object is added it goes down.

    I get this...

    DAZStudio.exe caused ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION in module "C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4 Public Build\libs\iray\libneuray.dll" at 0033:00000000DA92E5E8, mi_neuray_factory()+7391352 byte(s)

    Post edited by Jenkins3D on
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