3D Printing Plugin for Daz Studio - GamePrint [Commercial]

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  • Wat if I have the 3d printert allready? Can I print the models for me?

  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,837

    Looks intriguing! It was mentioned that a base is added if not included in the uploaded file. Is this a plain round base or are there various options? Also, what size is the added base?

  • GamePrint said:
    Karuki said:

    Is the 7 or 12 inch including the base? What's the minimum base we can have? 

    If you didn't upload the base with the model then we will add a base from our end and it won't be included in the scale but if you modeled a base that needs to be printed with the model then it will be inlcuded in the scale. you can just skip the base and we will add it which means that your character will take the full scale.

    I will say that although I think the products and service look amazing, paying for the plugin isn't in your best interest, unless you as a consumer could export something.
     

    The plugin cost will be deducted from the first order. It is paid because of the fact that each submitted model is processed on our cloud and it requires massive processing before we can proceed with an order.

    Also had we distributed the plugin for free means that even if someone is not interested in printing, he\she will be able to submit files which are processing intensive on our end and will delay processing for real customers. We prefer to focus on quality and ensure a high-quality service for our customers.

    Thanks for the replies, after reading your response and RawArts I totally understand why there is a charge now!

  • DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell.  

    So you can't print to sell?

    That's a bit crap then, that significantly reduces the chance of me ordering more than 1.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    th3Digit said:

    well I have a few days to think about it

    well at least as long as the discount is available

    will be much tweaking yet esp getting all the limbs flat with the ground and choice of attire ( or bare pelted)

    I am thinking more a seated figure anyway and the tail can be flush with the base mostly then

    That looks good!

  • Ive been trying to test out the plugin by uploading a character, but my upload always hangs at 80 percent is this normal?

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    Wat if I have the 3d printert allready? Can I print the models for me?

    Not at the moment I'm afraid, we will try to get this out in the future.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    RGcincy said:

    Looks intriguing! It was mentioned that a base is added if not included in the uploaded file. Is this a plain round base or are there various options? Also, what size is the added base?

    At the moment it is a round plain base smaller or equal to the depth and width of the bounding box but we are planning to add more in the future.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    Ive been trying to test out the plugin by uploading a character, but my upload always hangs at 80 percent is this normal?

    It takes time to process depending on the complexity of the character, it might take 10-20 min or even more if the character is complex as we process the geometry and repair it for 3D printing.

  • TaslaqTaslaq Posts: 78

    Also please check the following models :) 

    lol no wonder the prices weren't listed..I think its waaay too expensive but I have faith in technology improving and the price dropping..but until that happens and the service is available at sub $100 there no way I would pay that if I thought my customers would pay that price then I would do it in a heartbeat.

    How about you send them images of the final product from the ones we postes :) i am sure they will change thier minds :) 

  • FirePro9FirePro9 Posts: 456

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,774
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

  • HoMart said:
    DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell.  

    Like some forumusers mentioned in several threads over the last years ... thats a BIG showstopper .... but I suspected it ...

    Yep. I would need to see the DAZ Original license updated to include commercial 3D printing before I would ever consider this.

    GamePrint said:
    th3Digit said:

    exactly what materials are used in the print?

    I have a lovely little V6 with guns DAZ sent me as a gift made of some sandstone type composition that apparently is rather fragile as a few people have found, mine still in mint condition but I would still prefer something a bit more durable if shelling out for a figurine myself.

    High detailed resin winkand definitly not sandstone as personally I wouldn't print a cube in sandstone because it is horrible and fragile cheeky we use materials that really works best for figurines, it took us around 2 years trying out different materials to end up with our current selection that actually preserves quality while being durable.

    What is the resin type? Basically all 3D printers use "resin." As someone who works in 3D printing you know this detail is critical information for anyone who wants to paint or modify their models.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

    Yeah but still printability is not guranteed with most exporters, .STL alone is not enough unfortunately 

  • GamePrint said:
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

    Yeah but still printability is not guranteed with most exporters, .STL alone is not enough unfortunately 

    I would be interested in a properly functioning exporter from you guys. It looks like you have worked out how to handle transmapped hair exceptionally well.

  • If you want to sell a model or model(s) please open a Sales Support ticket.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    HoMart said:
    DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell.  

    Like some forumusers mentioned in several threads over the last years ... thats a BIG showstopper .... but I suspected it ...

    Yep. I would need to see the DAZ Original license updated to include commercial 3D printing before I would ever consider this.

    GamePrint said:
    th3Digit said:

    exactly what materials are used in the print?

    I have a lovely little V6 with guns DAZ sent me as a gift made of some sandstone type composition that apparently is rather fragile as a few people have found, mine still in mint condition but I would still prefer something a bit more durable if shelling out for a figurine myself.

    High detailed resin winkand definitly not sandstone as personally I wouldn't print a cube in sandstone because it is horrible and fragile cheeky we use materials that really works best for figurines, it took us around 2 years trying out different materials to end up with our current selection that actually preserves quality while being durable.

    What is the resin type? Basically all 3D printers use "resin." As someone who works in 3D printing you know this detail is critical information for anyone who wants to paint or modify their models.

    We do use multiple resin types depending on the needs of the model (character, diorama, robot) but all are paintable, will ask one of production team to give more informatioon on this part.

    GamePrint said:
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

    Yeah but still printability is not guranteed with most exporters, .STL alone is not enough unfortunately 

    I would be interested in a properly functioning exporter from you guys. It looks like you have worked out how to handle transmapped hair exceptionally well.

    This is something we are continously and heavily working on and once we have something that can be used to export Daz models with a decent processing requirments then we will most likely launch it but currently our process and technology is optimized for our workflow given the complexity of Daz models and the fact that we extract details from alpha maps and normalmaps adds a high level of complexity to our algorithms..

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,041

    Just curious, can you guys do cars or other vehicles, with/without interior details?

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Oso3D said:

    Just curious, can you guys do cars or other vehicles, with/without interior details?

    We can do vehicles and tanks but a normal car with a shinning metal, glass and interoir is still something we are investigating and researching, for the time being we would prefer sticking to what we do best and that is characters but once we are satisfied and confident enough about other things then we will offer it.

  • GamePrint said:
    HoMart said:
    DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell.  

    Like some forumusers mentioned in several threads over the last years ... thats a BIG showstopper .... but I suspected it ...

    Yep. I would need to see the DAZ Original license updated to include commercial 3D printing before I would ever consider this.

    GamePrint said:
    th3Digit said:

    exactly what materials are used in the print?

    I have a lovely little V6 with guns DAZ sent me as a gift made of some sandstone type composition that apparently is rather fragile as a few people have found, mine still in mint condition but I would still prefer something a bit more durable if shelling out for a figurine myself.

    High detailed resin winkand definitly not sandstone as personally I wouldn't print a cube in sandstone because it is horrible and fragile cheeky we use materials that really works best for figurines, it took us around 2 years trying out different materials to end up with our current selection that actually preserves quality while being durable.

    What is the resin type? Basically all 3D printers use "resin." As someone who works in 3D printing you know this detail is critical information for anyone who wants to paint or modify their models.

    We do use multiple resin types depending on the needs of the model (character, diorama, robot) but all are paintable, will ask one of production team to give more informatioon on this part.

    GamePrint said:
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

    Yeah but still printability is not guranteed with most exporters, .STL alone is not enough unfortunately 

    I would be interested in a properly functioning exporter from you guys. It looks like you have worked out how to handle transmapped hair exceptionally well.

    This is something we are continously and heavily working on and once we have something that can be used to export Daz models with a decent processing requirments then we will most likely launch it but currently our process and technology is optimized for our workflow given the complexity of Daz models and the fact that we extract details from alpha maps and normalmaps adds a high level of complexity to our algorithms..

    Yes that's very understandable. It's not always easy or feasible to move something from a production environment into a consumer tool. But if it ever happens I will be interested.

  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    GamePrint said:
    HoMart said:
    DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell.  

    Like some forumusers mentioned in several threads over the last years ... thats a BIG showstopper .... but I suspected it ...

    Yep. I would need to see the DAZ Original license updated to include commercial 3D printing before I would ever consider this.

    GamePrint said:
    th3Digit said:

    exactly what materials are used in the print?

    I have a lovely little V6 with guns DAZ sent me as a gift made of some sandstone type composition that apparently is rather fragile as a few people have found, mine still in mint condition but I would still prefer something a bit more durable if shelling out for a figurine myself.

    High detailed resin winkand definitly not sandstone as personally I wouldn't print a cube in sandstone because it is horrible and fragile cheeky we use materials that really works best for figurines, it took us around 2 years trying out different materials to end up with our current selection that actually preserves quality while being durable.

    What is the resin type? Basically all 3D printers use "resin." As someone who works in 3D printing you know this detail is critical information for anyone who wants to paint or modify their models.

    We do use multiple resin types depending on the needs of the model (character, diorama, robot) but all are paintable, will ask one of production team to give more informatioon on this part.

    GamePrint said:
    FirePro9 said:

    Would be willing to pay considerably more if the plugin also output to .STL

    Thanks, looking forward to future developments.

    get a modeling app, most export to .STL. Blender does, so does Ultimate Unwrap 3d.

    Yeah but still printability is not guranteed with most exporters, .STL alone is not enough unfortunately 

    I would be interested in a properly functioning exporter from you guys. It looks like you have worked out how to handle transmapped hair exceptionally well.

    This is something we are continously and heavily working on and once we have something that can be used to export Daz models with a decent processing requirments then we will most likely launch it but currently our process and technology is optimized for our workflow given the complexity of Daz models and the fact that we extract details from alpha maps and normalmaps adds a high level of complexity to our algorithms..

    Yes that's very understandable. It's not always easy or feasible to move something from a production environment into a consumer tool. But if it ever happens I will be interested.

    Thanks for understanding smiley but we promise to push as much as we can

  • Is the 7" always going to be height, or is it the maximum on any axis? Is there a way to set a lower height (I think you may have answered this in respect to difrent scales, a forthcoming, but I was thinking of - for example - making separate figures for a family where they should not all be the same height)?

  • bad4ubad4u Posts: 684
    edited October 2017
    DAZ_Steve said:

    There have been several questions and comments in this thread about the rights on a 3D printed item.  As epr the EULA, custoemrs are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  This plugin does not change that.  Prints can be ordered for yourself, but not that you intend to sell. 

    I think modifying the Game Developer Licenses to include Commercial 3D Printing in some way could be a great compromise and fair deal for PAs, Daz and artists as well - and boost sales of those licenses..

    Post edited by bad4u on
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539

    Is the 7" always going to be height, or is it the maximum on any axis? Is there a way to set a lower height (I think you may have answered this in respect to difrent scales, a forthcoming, but I was thinking of - for example - making separate figures for a family where they should not all be the same height)?

    The maximum of any axis =) and we are going to introduce custom sizes/scales in the near future, we avoided this with the launch because we wanted to avoid confusion about pricing especially that it doesn't make since to price 3 inch with the same price as 7 inch but this is something that we will launch in the near future and having this discussion with the community is very helpful in helping us shape the product over time.

  • Mr. HydeMr. Hyde Posts: 1
    edited October 2017

    Why isn't this plugin free? If it only uploads to the gameprint service and they then charge you a fee to print the item, seems like they are double charging you. At $250 USD for a 7" standard print, they cant cover the cost of the plugin????

    Buy the way a premium 11.5" or 29cm figure from Sideshow Collectables averages $250 - so they are charging the same price for a smaller/lesser product? - Oh and what about artist commission - does a vendor/artist that created the original model get a portion of the sale? Seems to me like that's copyright infringement if not.

    EULA, customers are currently allowed to 3D print items for personal, non-commercial use.  - The EULA implies that an item for personal use would be printed on a personal home 3d printer. I believe any service bureau company printing an item for a fee would fall under commercial use due to the fact that they are making money from that item (without licensing or writen permission from the creator) and would thus break the EULA terms. Daz needs to consider this when allowing items to be printed.

     

     

    Post edited by Mr. Hyde on
  • So, you're asking us to PAY for the right to buy something from you? Are you related to Cost-Co by chance?

    Seriously, I'm sure its an expensive process, but $250 for a 7" figure is beyond even what Blizzard and Warhammer40k charge... and both of them are outrageously overpriced.

    LET ME POINT OUT THAT YOU CAN BUY A 3D PRINTER FOR THAT COST. Who buys a gallon of milk at the price of the cow?

    To top that off, you want us to BUY A PLUGIN THAT DOES NOTHING OTHER THAN LET US SPEND MONEY WITH YOU. It has NO VALUE AS A PLUGIN and is not worth buying as such.

    I am EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED in this, as I was quite excited when I saw the announcement. I EXPECTED a 3D Printing Plugin to interface with a 3D PRINTER!! Imagine that.

     

    Though it may be a good service, I for one, will not PAY for the right to buy. I'm damned tired of basic operating/marketing expenses being dumped back on the consumer.

    Centurylink does this with their "Internet Cost Recovery Fee" that they tac on top of the service charge.

    AND EVERY BUSENESS DOES THIS WITH SALES TAX (which is GROSS RECEIPTS TAX passed on to the consumer instead of paid by the recipient of the income as intended)

     

    I wish DAZ would make up their minds on the ELUA and come up with a REAL 3D PRINTING SOLUTION that includes the right to print customized scenes for resale and compatibility with 3D Printers not 3rd party vendor mail order services.

  • bad4ubad4u Posts: 684
    edited October 2017

    Is the 7" always going to be height, or is it the maximum on any axis? Is there a way to set a lower height (I think you may have answered this in respect to difrent scales, a forthcoming, but I was thinking of - for example - making separate figures for a family where they should not all be the same height)?

    I think for keeping different heigths on figures maybe some ~ 7" 'helper primitive' (think of something like a vertival rather thin cylinder or something) on the edge of a base that can be cut off later (or maybe even hidden using opacity or something for print?) might help for as long as there's no better way available..

    Post edited by bad4u on
  • GamePrintGamePrint Posts: 539
    Mr. Hyde said:

    Why isn't this plugin free? If it only uploads to the gameprint service and they then charge you a fee to print the item, seems like they are double charging you. At $250 USD for a 7" standard print, they cant cover the cost of the plugin????

    I did answer this question on the other thread so here is the answer:

    What you pay for the plugin is actually deducted from the first order as a 10% discount (you are actually saving on your first order). We decided to follow this path because processing files (not orders) is very resource intensive in terms of processing power and costly to run on the cloud so we wanted to make sure the plugin is only in the hands of people who are truly intersted in using the service thus we don't end up in a situation were we process tens of thousands of files and only print few because at the end if we are going to make sure we lower the final product retail price then we need to make sure we lower our expenses as well and this is a way of making sure we get you the best price possible instead of increasing the price on the actual customer's end in order to pay the cloud processing bills. Personally, I would rather charge customers $250 per print instead of distributing a plugin for free and then ending up in a situation charging $300 to make up for irrelevant server processing costs. does that make sense? 

    Buy the way a premium 11.5" or 29cm figure from Sideshow Collectables averages $250 - so they are charging the same price for a smaller/lesser product? - Oh and what about artist commission - does a vendor/artist that created the original model get a portion of the sale? Seems to me like that's copyright infringement if not.

    Sideshow collectible models in that price range are casted and it is not one of a kind, what you own is something others own as well and it is not made for you alone from your own design, if we are casting the models then we can offer lower price point but as each model is unique then it requires (repairing on the cloud, printing, expensive resin, clean up, priming, painting, QA. refining and packaging).

    Regarding the artist commission, this part is covered by the DAZ EULA  

  • Are you related to Cost-Co by chance?

    Costco is great.

    LET ME POINT OUT THAT YOU CAN BUY A 3D PRINTER FOR THAT COST.

    Spoilers, the $200 3D printer will not allow you even to get close to this, this is tens of thousands of dollars in equipment level.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,497

    Is the 7" always going to be height, or is it the maximum on any axis? Is there a way to set a lower height (I think you may have answered this in respect to difrent scales, a forthcoming, but I was thinking of - for example - making separate figures for a family where they should not all be the same height)?

    maybe you can add the kids to the same group, I guess a kid with his arms around Dad's leg or a baby in Mum's arms is still one model
     

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