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I was at the supermarket this afternoon. The tinned food shelves were virtually empty, not surprising. But there were hardly any fresh vegtables either and you can't really stockpile those for very long. No toilet paper all, (why do you need to stockpile that?), the only washing up liquid left was two bottles of some expensive eco friendly plant based stuff. Nearly everything else was shelves half empty. Given the curent level of trust in politicians I suppose as soon as the government says there is no need for you to stockpile anything everyone decides this means they have to buy as much as they can get their hands on. And the way most business work on a "just in time" ordering system probably isn't helping. It lets them save money on warehouses when things are normal but as soon as there is problem with extra demand or less supply they run out of stock.
There used to be a man in London, I often saw him in Oxford street. He had a sandwich board with extra board above his head with a long rambling message on it. The bits I can remember from it were something like "less passion from less meat", "more sitting". I don't know what the message was supposed to be, perhaps it was just to be a bit more relaxed.
I'm from Italy too.
We're paying a very high fee, economically, with the quarantene shutdown.
The fee we would have paid in human lives, already tragically high, would have been much higher without it.
For those of you living in countries where the virus hadn't spread so much, already, please, listen:
STAY
AT
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HOME!
Believe me, you DON'T WANT to experience what we are living now!
And to all of you who don't have a home to repair to safely...
You have all of my love, and of my solace; know it's poor thing, but hope that it reaches you.
WE ALL ARE BUT ONE.
Mod Edit :- due to Profanity
Stay safe! We are all in this together!
yeah.. about that.. fine is relative. the last dude who said that landed on a creepy ship with fugly poem-deaf aliens.. and the rest is history XD
i'm so sorry for our neighbours from italia - i'm living next door in switzerland - what's happening down there is just a horror scenario, i hope it will calm down soon with all restrictive measures, what so many people, especially the sick and the health care workers, are going through is a nightmare... guess it's the same in china & korea too.
here it's starting to get earnest too, and since i'm in a risk group with a weak health/issues, i DO stay at home (which is perfectly normal for me, i'm outta the work force and almost hikikomori anyways). atm every human is a walking potential danger for me, i have no wish to see anyone at all, i even wait until delivery people go away to get my stuff and handle it with gloves.. I SO WISH I WAS A PREPPER RIGHT NOW. but i'm so broke i barely live from month to month with all my pets, so right now while others clean out full stores, i have no $$ for any reserve of anything, and i'm creeped out we'd get out of the already scarce supplies we can afford - with 11 animal companions to feed. can't even imagine what people with kids are going through.
I would absolutely love to stay at home, my 73 year olf mother with underlying health issues and severly compromised lungs lives with me. But I have to show up for work, or I lose my job. Then I won't have a home to stay in. And right now, it looks like hwen the executives finally get around to making a decision NEXT friday, since I'm in IT I'll still have to come into the office everyday, even if they send the rest of the company home.
Being rural, we were already preppers (my kids go through milk withdrawal if the truck doesn't show up on time, due to snowstorms and the like) so we are ready. I pulled them all out of school last month and got them set up with homeschooling, so they won't feel the bump when the schools begin to close, as they are now. Our local library has closed, so no more books and movies, but we have many of our own, and games and such... and Daz :-). Assuming no one becomes ill or gets hurt and needs medical attention, I hope we will be fine. I know we are lucky even in our community, being well-prepared (and with the ability) to shelter in place. I know too many people living hand-to-mouth. I am staying at my job as long as I dare, because when I close, everyone will have to drive a long way to get to the F.I., very hard on my older customers. I am trying to convince my mother, who is in her 70's, to stay home and let us bring things to her, but she is resolutely stubborn.
Be safe, everyone. The COVID might not kill you, but it's still going to be a very bumpy ride. Here in Canada, we have no one at the helm to guide our ship through the rough waters - I hope more of you are better situated.
I live in NB in the middle of nowheres lol. Not worried really. Still got tons of bottled and canned food I grew last year, moose in the freezer etc. I drove by the nearest cosco today, the line to get in was like 5 miles long lol.
Dragotx, please believe I DO understand the matter of what you're saying (and I hope you'll be the most safe possible, when showing up at work). My husband is a technician, he repairs freezers; he would love so much to stay with me at home (from where, thanks goodness and my boss' prewiev of problems, I'm smartworking) but his job is needed for people to continue finding food in the stores. What I'm desperately asking to everyone, when they have the possibility to chose, is to avoid all the social meetings that aren't strictly needed. And to all the governement man, and to all the executives and managers, to put people's life BEFORE any economical interest. Or they'll face the fact that they won't have much to earn, from thousands of dead people in their towns.
Many people around us acted as going out, having fun, making money, showing themselves as fearless and socially brilliant was more important than protecting their and other people's lives. This is costing us human lives. HUMAN LIVES, right?
Only OXYGEN is important, when you can't breath anymore. Don't put yourself in the conditions to suddenly remember it, if you can avoid it.
Look, all you listening, I may be felt as rude, but please get clear this: we, here, have seen the cost of superficiality and stupidity. It's HUGE cost, and it's paid in HUMAN LIVES. The next ones on the bill may easily be yours, if EVERYBODY doesn't take the needed measures. And EVERY SINGLE ONE of your lives is preacious, to me. Hope it may be to you, too.
sadly we might also need to use the self serve checkouts too for the sake of the same staff who's jobs I was previously trying to protect by not using them.
Its behaviour modification that is needed more than anything.
No more hugging and shaking hands in social situations, don't touch things like railings on elevators, wear gloves in high risk situations wipe shopping trolley handles with wipes, many shops already provide those, avoid big gatherings etc, work needs to be done but if like my former job on production lines one took turns for breaks anyway, as food production hygiene practices already existed, now all workplaces will need protocols in place to limit contamination.
I cannot go to the shops at the moment thanks to an arsonist yesterday burning a vacant lot nearby triggering my constant coughing.
...yeah the Safeway last night was picked pretty clean. Reminded me of when I lived in New Orleans before a hurricane. The only difference was windows were not being boarded up.
Received an email from them this morning and it appears they are going to place maximum purchase limits on certain items to try and control hoarding.
...a cat's dream house.
...the basketball one has been as of yesterday.
Really? I just saw a GREAT speech by Trudeau! I'm jealous!
...being rather unsteady because of creaky joints, I need to use handrails on staris. I stopped shaking hands a while ago because too many people grasp too firmly and for me it is excruciatingly painful.
Ugh those self checkounts never work, they always scream at me that I'm doing something wrong, don't accept coupons, and you have to deal with all the codes for produce and bulk items (a pain when you have dyslexia, mistype one number or letter and you can wind up paying 10$ instead of 79¢ per pound, and sometimes they are not even in the book provided.
...yeah the entire nation seems to be coming to a halt. just received notices that two conventions I had been saving up for, one at the end of this month and one next month were cancelled (was sort of expecting it so no big surprise, gives me more money for other things). Libraries and other public places like museums are closing down or cancelling public programmes. Sporting events both professional and collegiate have been suspended or cancelled. Seating at cinemas is being limited (won't be surprised if some shut their doors as Hollywood is delaying release of a number of new films) and many live stage performances and concerts have been cancelled.
Stay safe everyone.
pity people are more worried about catching Covid 19 than imbibing saturated trans fats, sugar, high fructose, sodium, tobacco and not getting enough exercise though.
Still killing far more and more easily prevented.
I toddled out to the post office this afternoon. Picked up my first successfully mailed delivery of prescriptions. Yay! Stopped at the grocery store on the way back to pick up milk, cheese, salad, bananas, apples and other perishables. This is the first time that I've been to the grocery since the ban on plastic bags went into effect at the first of the month. Had to carry two lumpy paper bags. My arms were exhausted by time I got back. As well as my feet, knees, hips, and back and I could hardly breathe. Gonna have to get a little red wagon. All day long I didn't touch another human being or door... (oh, wait, the door in the post office has a knob, urk, Oh... but wait... I had gloves on. phew!) Next week is monthly SS deposit day so that week I go for the big load of groceries and have the nice young store clerk drive me back home (perks of living in a small town) with my usual 6 or 7 bags of groceries all the bulky, heavy and non-perishable stuff for the month. No rush at our little town grocery. Shelves were full, lots of toilet paper, nobody panicing. If need be, our apartment building has a nice patch of decent soil for a garden. As does almost everybody in this little country town. About time to think about preparing the ground, snow's all gone. How is it you grow bananas again?
OMG... today was Friday the 13th
If only I'd known I could have worried about something.
Coronavirus Guide
Welcome to The Guide to Vaguely Understanding the Coronavirus... Possibly...
If you are reading this on a smartphone or tablet stolen from the corpse you found in the street, you may not want to follow it too closely because obviously it may not have worked too well for that guy.
Then again, he may have died of Ebola or Smallpox, so no worries.
The first thing to keep in mind is to stop touching your face... Right NOW!
Get your filthy little booger flickers out of your face holes, you dirty nasty corpse looting bastard you.
Also stop touching other people’s faces too... it’s a gross habit and in the very least is an invitation to pick up a terrible case of cooties.
In fact stop touching other people in general, they are gross disgusting disease farms and it's just a matter of time till one of them leaks some nasty human fluid on you... If you really have to scratch your nose, use a disposable sanitary nose scratcher or the handle of a toilet plunger. The suction cup on the end allows you to stick it onto smooth surfaces so you won’t need to use your hands.
Getting to know Coronavirus
One of the first things to be aware of is the virus has almost nothing to do with Corona beer... except for the fact that both taste great with a lime wedge... the virus dominating the news is actually a particularly strain known by its street name as “COVID-19”, or more confusingly “SARS-CoV-2” and is one part of a loving family of seven viruses known as “Coronaviruses”.
It is not at all related to Rhinoviruses, the virus spread by tiny rhinoceros that nest in your nose when you sleep.
In case you were wondering, they are enveloped viruses with a positive-sense single-stranded RNA genome and a nucleocapsid of helical symmetry... whatever the hell that means... but it’s obviously why they taste great with a lime wedge, unlike rhinoviruses which only taste good with Worcestershire sauce.
What the hell is the correct name?
Okay, try to follow this, because lots of people keep flinging around different names willy-nilly without putting it in an amusing context...
Coronavirus is a family of viruses...
SARS-CoV-2 is the strain of Coronavirus...
COVID-19 is the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2...
SARS-CoV-2 stands for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
COVID-19 is actually a designation referring to- “CO” for “Corona”, “VI” for “Virus”, “D” for “Daaaamn this s_ _t got real fast” and “19” for its favorite number... or the year it was first identified.
It also goes by other names:
2019-nCoV acute respiratory disease
Novel coronavirus pneumonia
Wuhan pneumonia
Wuhan Flu
Wuhan coronavirus
Novel coronavirus 2019
nCoV
nCoV-19
2019-nCoV
Human coronavirus 2019
HCoV-19
Tim
But nobody cares about those other names because none of the cool scientists use them.
So just remember that any one of those could refer to the disease you probably just contracted because you can’t keep your damned fingers out of your face holes or stop looting corpses.
Where did it come from?
How the hell should I know?... It is believed to have originated in Wuhan, China and most likely from a live animal market therein.
SARS-CoV-2 is related to coronaviruses found in some bats, certain people (probably scientists) believe it may have transferred from an intermediate host which might be pangolins...
SARS-CoV-2 is similar to MERS-CoV which causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), MERS is thought to have spread from bats to camels before mutating and jumping to humans.
So my gut feeling (it’s just a hunch) is bunch of infected bats were at a party with some camels in Iraq and the camels later got a little sick, but still went on that free vacation they won to Wuhan, China, while they were there, they met a couple of nice pangolins who worked at the hotel and played cards with them, thus transmitting it to the pangolins, one of the pangolins was a heavy smoker, really overweight and a little radioactive, so he made the perfect incubator for the virus to mutate in, then on the weekend he went to work at the market where he got into a fist fight with a human vendor and that’s how the virus got transferred.
Based on absolutely no facts that this could have occurred, that’s most likely what happened.
But none of that is really important at the moment... unless you frequently make out with camels, bats or pangolins... in which case stop that.
What are the symptoms?
I’m glad you asked...
According to data from nearly 56,000 laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 patients in China, the rundown of common symptoms was pretty much as follows:
How long does COVID-19 last?
On average, it takes five to six days from the day you first make out with a pangolin infected with SARS-CoV-2 until you develop symptoms of COVID-19. This pre-symptomatic period (also known as "incubation") can range from one to 14 days.
From there, those with mild disease tend to recover in about two weeks, while those with more severe cases can take three to six weeks to recover, according to WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who goes by Dr. Tedros or Grandmaster Funky-T.
The popularity of diseases like this are hard to predict, should the disease get it’s own reality show or series on TLC, it could last for years.
Should I get COVID-19?
No you idiot.
How does COVID-19 compare with seasonal flu in terms of symptoms and deaths?
Most cases of COVID-19 are mild and may feel similar in severity to the seasonal flu one may get from making out with a horse or goat.
Although the case fatality rate (CFR) is not yet clear for COVID-19, so far it appears to be significantly higher than the CFRs recorded for seasonal flu in the U.S. and possibly other places I’m to lazy to research.
Overall CFRs for COVID-19 have hovered around 2 percent to 3 percent during the outbreak.
Christopher Mores, a guy I totally didn’t make up, who’s probably a global health professor or something like that at George Washington University, calculated the average 10-year mortality rate for flu in the US at around 0.1 percent, based on CDC data.
WHO Director-General Dr. Grandmaster Funky-T noted in a recent statement that “seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than one percent of those infected.”
So, even at 2 to 3 percent your best bet is to stop touching your damned face holes and quit making out with pangolins if you want to remain healthy.
Should I panic?
No... get a towel and whatever you do don't panic.
How much toilet paper should I get?
Either more than you can find or more than you’ll ever use.
Do I need a mask? Gloves?
It depends on how scary you want to look... most health experts say you don’t need a mask because most people are idiots and don’t know how to wear it properly and it only makes them touch their faces more, especially their eye holes... Of course if you think you have COVID-19, and you have access to a mask then wear it around other people or if you are in public which you shouldn’t be out in, because it’s irresponsible to be outside potentially spreading the disease you inconsiderate plague dog you.
The problem with surgical masks and dust masks is they don’t protect your eye holes and wearing a full face mask is a little over the top unless you absolutely have to be around people with overactive salivary glands.
The problem with full face masks is they are expensive, sweaty and boring... if you are going to go all out, get a high quality Darth Vader helmet or Ironman mask... even a good Gorilla mask with a dust mask and sunglasses underneath.
Regardless of what you wear, you are still going to forget and touch your face... you can’t not touch your face... especially now that I just said that...
What about latex or nitrile gloves?... Well, they will keep your hands clean, but you are going to end up touching pangolins, getting pangolin snot on them and then start touching your face holes... you are really going to work that infectious pangolin snot into your eyelids, lips, ear holes... everywhere.
You just can’t stop touching your face. So while your hands will be clean and completely pangolin snot free, the rest of you will be covered in festering pangolin snot.
The best bet is to wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds and STOP TOUCHING YOUR DAMNED FACE... you are doing it right now... I know.
Then what is the best way to avoid exposure?
Well, I was getting to that, but you had to interrupt, didn’t you?
Besides NOT TOUCHING YOUR FACE CONSTANTLY and remembering to frequently wash your hands for at least 20 seconds (I prefer 22 seconds myself), especially after touching a public surface or sweaty pangolin.
Try and keep at least three feet distance from others in public or possibly further if they are really smelly too.
Don’t shake hands, that’s really stupid right now, even before, it was crazy filthy as most people don’t ever wash their hand or know how to use toilet paper properly.
Instead use the “Elbow Bump” where you tap elbows with your fellow socializer...
Lots of celebrities are endorsing this, there may be a dance involved too or maybe that was a TikTok I saw... just stop shaking hands and GET YOUR FINGER OUT OF YOUR NOSE... ARE TRYING TO GET VIRUSES DIRECTLY ON YOUR BRAIN!?… Ugh... I swear...
Avoid crowds, maybe take the stairs instead of that crowded stanky elevator filled with nasty oozing human fluids.
Was that a gross enough depiction to get you to take the stairs?
And wash or disinfect your hand after you touch the handrail, god knows how many people rubbed their butts on that... (I’m from N.Y.C. It’s just a given fact that at least one person has rubbed their butt on anything in public you may be about to touch).
And lastly stop making out with pangolins.
Where did you get all this helpful information?
Most of it I made up, so nowhere. The rest was collected from various probably reliable sources around the internet, like Wikipedia, Ars Technica, Pangolin Lovers Anonymous and the CDC website (not that CDC, the Canadian Disease Collectors)...
If you want a more comprehensive breakdown I suggest the Ars Technica guide that can be found here... https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/dont-panic-the-comprehensive-ars-technica-guide-to-the-coronavirus/3/#h3
Read that and actually learn something instead of bothering with this kinda stuff.
It’s a lot less amusing, it doesn’t shout at you to GET YOUR FRIGGIN’ FINGERS OUT OF YOUR STUPID FACEHOLES !, and doesn’t mention pangolins nearly as much as they deserve... but who does anymore?
I hoped this was “informative” and helped you to STOP TOUCHING YOUR... you know what... I give up... you can’t stop can you?
This is why we can’t have nice things...
If you aren’t actually constantly touching your face, I’m sorry...
And if you are the guy who’s corpse was being looted at the beginning of this... Yeah...sorry about that.
Good luck and remember not to panic... especially if you keep a towel handy.
For those who think this is just a flu... Read this heartbreaking story. This can happen to anyone at any age, even healthy!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html
so can being hit by a car.
not diminishing the tragedy but life is unpredictable
I still think a lot of the panic and economic collapses are ultimately going to kill more people than the virus
more people are still likely dying in China from traffic accidents than Covid-19
Air travel still is the biggest spreader of such epidemics
this is the area that needs more protocols in place
passenger cabins are germ fests
the stuff some people do in their seats is disgusting
maybe more thorough sanitation between flights and looking into wearing masks on planes etc
as well as the thermal screening at airports
goes in hand with security
I sure am glad our family is preppers
To bad so many people still think its a joke and are not taking it more serious what can happen to them or their families. Their properly the same type person who would get on a airplane knowing they had COVID-19 to begin with. The whole thing is just sad.
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That's exactly what happened in Italy. People thought it couldn't happen to them. I'm going to cancel the cable guy who is supposed to come Monday because of slow Internet. He has probably been to many homes daily and I don't want to risk contamination. I'm paranoid. I have asthma. Since I still have boxes everywhere due my move, no one has been to my place for weeks and I'm going to keep it that way for now. (Keeping people out, not the boxes.)
It's not really the "end of the world". It's really a bit more like the "end of the Human Race". The World will carry on just fine without us. And probably be better off.
I think my parents are thinking like that, and it's getting blooming annoying.
I was waiting for a thread like this to show up. I was having Cognitive Behavioural therapy to try and help deal with the issue(s) that I have about this topic a couple of years ago. I can't find any humour in it like the rest of you can. My head and thoughts are running rampant. I just can't get a break. I'm so tired. Everytime I read something that gives me a little bit of hope, I read 10 other things that kill it... :( I'm considering "taking myself out of the game". I just can't deal with the thought of what could happen (because of OCD and "catastrophic thinking").
I don't think I'll be rendering anytime soon either. It's just beating my creativity to pieces too.
you need to talk to Beyond Blue
and stop seeking out threads like this because humour is a coping mechanism for some but if not for you it is doing more to cause unneeded stress
US folks in the correct regions may understand the gravity of this picture. There was no toilet paper in the Pensacola Buc-ees stall when I stopped to get gas.
Stay safe and away from people as much as possible. My oldest daughter lives in Simi Valley California her company is making the office personal work from home and have them come in the office a coupe times a week on rotations to limit exposure. she does insurance billing coder for large dentist office there, So I can imagen they are pretty worried as well