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I wonder where you get your impressions from. Perhaps too much media influence that only loves to marginalize foreign socio-economic conditions to boost domestic viewership. The western media won't gain viewerships if they tell you that India's resilience during this crisis (despite its challenges) has been far effective than developed nations with all their technology and resources. They would be contradicting themselves if they tell you that the Indian infrastructure has proven more resilient at handling the present crisis. If there is less concern for outbreak in India it only shows how far and and inaccurate your perceptions are.
If you really think temperature is a factor then there are other tropical countries in south east asia and latin americas (even australia) which are not as fortunate as us.
Almost everyone is counting how many people got sick in their country but nobody in the media today is talking about an important metrics - cases per million population. This alongside the population density should be the cause of concern, not the absolute number of cases. But the media loves the numbers that they can sell - the larger the better.
Nice places*, mine is urban and due to my business and other work it is important to stay. Miles away I have another house that place is dense too but rural and plenty of fresh food available. However my business is impacted also and dont know what will happen in future (not due to virus but due to panic). Probably it is time to sell handwash etc. worth to mention people here do not use toilet paper at all.
* Wonderland, Ivy
I decided that I will not go out and get Corona. I am not going to order it either.
i think i know how you feel. i tend to get stuck on stuff at times. and this is a huge one. it's eating up a lot of my brain RAM...
usually i never follow the news, the last exception i remember was fukushima. as the swine- and the avianflu were big on, not living in asia myself, i barely took notice, didn't panic or anything. now.. it's different. i read tickers many times a day, worry about getting infected so much i avoid any people even more than usual, staying in letting no one in (well, no change from the usual except this time it's a must not only me being reclusive or away from town), worry about our supplies since no $$ for another 14 days while everyone empties shelves/stocks and i've got 11 cats to feed, worry about people i know like my parents & grandpa, worry about how the world is faring now and will fare later. rendering is out of the question, i barely manage to distract myself with my main usual "avoid the world/reality" activity which is watching series, but the 1st thing i read in the morning is tickers, and i interrupt watching every episode a few times... to worry and read tickers. or write a concerned email to get help/reassurance about my monthly supply in 2 weeks...
don't take yourself out if the game, it's already not a given not to succumb these days if someone has health issues or is aged, life is precious!
but try to find people cheering you up, or distract yourself with anything stupid that keeps your attention/focus away from the dark thoughts. even stupid jokes. whatever. and try to sleep enough, deprival augments the "washmachine in the head" thing. :hugs:
Corn Cobs?
Um. 0.o um hand sanitizer time and brain bleach.
Toilet brushes?
Do you think if I rubbed gin on my hands it would work like hand sanitizer?
somehow funny.. or sad, depends. usually, i would say amen to all quotes included in this batch here. not the hugest fan of the human race as such either. thoooooo.. now that the *** is hitting the fan big time for totes real, including the fact that i could well go too since not the healthiest.. i'm suddenly not so keen on the idea :/
vocab lesson: this is objectivity vs subjectivity for you... (or no f to give until you're concerned)
Make it into jello shots first.
Only if it's 60% alcohol
190 proof moonshine will fer sure
We have plenty of water available here. Not frozen but warm. and soap.
Example.
Well, not to interupt, but I'm going out now...
Solves the full mask issue... is not taking away from medical supplies and helps people come to terms with their Planet Of The Apes" apocalypse fears.
Well said, "but nobody in the media today is talking about an important metrics - cases per million population"
ah finally a link to such a graph - i was wondering. i live in a tiny country, but with a high density. and i had the feeling that proportionally, we weren't in good shape, even if the number of cases wasn't that high. thx for that useful link!
Some things to realize about the Corona virus:
1) Only 20% of those infected show any symptoms.
2) The older and/or medically frail you are, the more likely you'll come down with Corona. (This is a good excuse to develop some healthy/healthier habits.)
3) The mortailty rate is estimated at ~3.5% for those known to be infected. (The figure fluctuates.)
4) Since the official Corona deaths are tallied only from those who had symptoms, that implies that approximately .7% of ALL those infected - symptomatic and asymptomatic - are likely to die from it (20% * 3.5%). That would make it about 7x the flu mortatlity rate.
5) It's possible that some deaths attributed to the Corona virus were in the "last straw" category - those people were liable to die shortly any way and the Corona virus was the tipping point for them. Those deaths kind of inflate the Corona mortality rate.
6) On the other hand, It's quite possible that there are deaths from Corona that are getting labelled with other causes. For example, someone who went home after surgery and gets Corona from an asymptomatic family member might be presumed dead due to a post-op infection. It'll be months or years before an educated guess on additional, suspected-but-unproven Corona deaths is possible.
The run on toilet paper makes sense. Not everyone knows how long their pack of toilet paper lasts (I certainly don't) so having a pack or two extra is smart. Knowing there might be a 14 day quarentine imposed, people are grabbing vital items - toilet paper, durable goods, pet food, etc. - and comfort items like ice cream. (Yeah, I bought extra chocolate.) It gives people a sense of control during the outbreak. Unfortunately, some are panicking and buying ridiculous amounts of stuff, making it more difficult for others to be sufficiently prepared. As well, people don't realize that some measures they're taking are actually detrimental in the long run, such as grabbing gloves and masks that medical professionals need, putting those professionals in danger and straining the health care system. It's penny wise, pound foolish. And as for the <bleeps> robbing places of hand sanitizer etc., well, there are always going to be <bleeps> doing <bleepy> things. It's just more obvious in a crisis.
It could get rough for a while, but I think there's enough awareness that we'll get through this a lot better than previous pandemics. Even if we can't beat the Corona virus, if we can greatly slow down the infection rate, it'll reduce the strain on the medical system and give more time for better treatments to be developed.
Staying educated about the virus and staying sensible with our actions are the best things we can do, for ourselves and for our communities.
May everyone here remain healthy.
Well said, Crescent!!
I'd just like to add that almost every medical professional says that face-masks are next to useless for the general public. They're being used extensively by health workers because they're the ones under constant threat of infection, but walking down the street with a face-mask does about as much good as wearing a Christmas Hat. The best medical advice seems to be 'WASH YOUR HANDS FREQUENTLY..... AND WELL!!'
What no one has questioned is whether Daz offices will remain open? Can the employees work remotely? What will we do without our daily sales if Daz closes down???
I can totally relate, and even envious . Even though my parents were city people, I grew up with most of my uncles being farners and ranchers. By the time I was 10 I was shooting, fishing and riding at adult level. That is one of the perks to living in TX, even though I live smack in the middle of Dallas, there are outdoor activites and places to go all around. I still ride, fish, and hit the gun range once a week.
When the zombie apocalypse happens, I am heading to your place, LOL
https://blog.daz3d.com/daz-3d-announces-work-from-home-policy-due-to-coronavirus-covid-19/
Are you trying to start a panic? People were getting by without stupid things like toilet paper, hand sanitizer and food... but no DAZ sales?
Historians may one day look to that post as the tipping point.
honestly right now, scared about pretty much anything from our food supply to my life, it's not my priority, and i don't mind them making a pause. ONE CONDITION THO: i paid for my pc+ membership from my tiny budget, and this entails a 6$ coupon/month. ergo, if there are issues and the shop has to close for a while, i WANT to still have those coming and be able to redeem them when the shop reopens. or my membership prolongated, whatever. not just weeks passing by and my pc+ privileges disappearing...
Some home remedies to make to help past your timewhen you waiting out the virus at home
Did you know that many parts of a tree can be editable, White spruce makes lovely spruce gum , http://www.eattheweeds.com/a-pitch-for-spruce-gum/
winter green grows wild every where even in the city, you just to know what it looks like BTW a tincture( like a strong tea) made from wild wintergreen or spearmint can be used as a disinfectant and smells good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintergreen
Dandelions make a dandy diuretics or mild blood pressure remedy http://pennstatehershey.adam.com/content.aspx?productid=107&pid=33&gid=000236
Comfrey root is a good remedy for inflammatory skin diseases https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3834722/
Cayenne or hot chili peppercan be used as a topical pain and blood circulation remedy https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=19&contentid=Cayenne
Well I am luckier than most since I work from home. Only have to go to the grocery store once a week to fill my and the wife's needs (but this week was not so good when all the chicken littles cleaned out the stores). We always keep aty least a month of food on hand anyway (except for perishables like bread and fresh fruit/veggies). However, I am pretty much sunk in a Zombie Apocalypse/TEOEWAWKI situation as I am 60, have diabetes, a bad heart, debilitating arthritis, and asthma. I stil have my concealed carry weapon and a shotgun with enough ammunition for both to keep the zombies out of the apartment for a few weeks and enough meds to keep me going for a couple of months.
I do miss the good old days. My grandparents had over 500 acres and I spent all my summer, Christmas, and spring breaks there when I was young working on the ranch and continued to hunt and fish in my later years until health issues now prevent me from doing so. My grand mother usually kept between 50 and 100 Leghorn chickens for eggs to eat and sell and my grandfather always had around 100 head of cattle. I was raised on garden vegetables (fresh and canned by my Granny), fresh fruit from the orchards and canned jams and jellies, FRESH chicken (as in running around the barnyard that morning), beef raised and slaughtered by my grand daddy, ham and other pork products slaughtered in January by me and my grand daddy and either smoked in his smoke house or stored in chest freezers, deer, quail, dove, pheasant, and other game, catfish from the stock ponds and trout caught from the river. So it (gotta watch my language here) to know what to do and be unable to do it. Now my meat, Catfish, Trout, and eggs come from the grocery store along with canned vegetables and I haven't had any good Venison in years.
As far as toilet paper goes, if it gets really bad, I can always buy a couple of news papers and use pieces from them to wipe my derriere. Our great grand parrents used pages from the previous year's Sears Robuck catalog and corn cobs so news print should work in a pinch
Of course we now have "indoor plumbing" as my Granny used to say so no traipsing to the outhouse 
I know you are all still touching your faces while you are reading this...
Careful, or someone will report you for hacking their cameras.
Well that article was posted by The Weather Channel, so it should be no surprise that they would post an article wondering about the role of weather in the spread of the disease. After all, weather plays a key role for flu season and many other diseases, so this is not unprecedented. And also note that the very title of the article openly stated that scientists are conflicted by the idea. I don't know if is it is or not, but I think it would be very foolish to discount the idea completely, too. Science is about looking at all the factors.
A per 1 million doesn't tell the whole story, either. With all of this talk about Australia, they only have 249 reported cases there. While the per million is kind of high, the actual number of cases is still quite low. Consider this, if a single large family all test positive, that would be enough to cause a spike in the percentage because of how low the total population is, skewing the results. And perhaps the biggest factor of all is how the virus is being tested and confirmed. The more proactive in testing, the more positive results they may get.
Clearly, India has something going for it, but I think its also highly presumptive to also assume that India just does it better than everybody else in the world. It could be that cases are not properly reported, or there could be a natural resistance. The United States ratio of 7.5 per 1 million is still quite a lot better than a lot of other countries. By contrast, Italy leads the chart by a wide margin with 350 per 1 million. Norway is #2 with 200, just look at how wide that gap is going from #1 to #2. Many Nordic and Slavic countries top this list...which BTW tend to be colder places.
Here are the top twenty countries based on per one million reported cases from that site as of the time of my post (3-14-2020). The US is tied for 38th with Georgia. Australia sits at 9.7 per million, which places it at #33. Of note here, 6 of the top twenty countries have no reported deaths. Hopefully the forum doesn't mangle this chart.
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Cross legged? Trying to figure out how to make toilet paper last until stores get more?
yup, i used the link earlier on - and as this chart indicates, i'm living in the 3rd country from the top - just after italy and norway. yee-hah. luckily there are only 8mio of us... at some point it should stop.
last week i thought i was paranoid, as a not very healthy person, to insist on staying at home. today i think i'm perfectly normal.