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I remeber WInter Park as a beautiful little town. We would go there for restaurants or events now and then, or to one of the movie theaters. I grew up in Windermere, Fl, just to the West of Orlando, on the Butler Chain of lakes. It was a pretty idyllic small town. Disney World, Epcot, etc. Really changed everything. Started when I was a junior in HIgh School. Went to what was then FTU (Florida Technological Univesity). Started with about 8500 students, had about 11,000 when I graduated with my Masters in '77. Now it is the third-largest (in terms of students) univeristy in the US. Moved to Baton Rouge for a job in '77. My parents followed in '88. Property taxes had gotten absurd and, as my cousin put it "the billionaires are crowding out the millionaires". I am glad I never seriously planned to move back when I retired. I could never in my wildest dreams afford either of the places we lived at these days. They tore down our first little concrete block house on the lake and built a 20 million dollar mansion there!
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I am planning the same and (if I survive current coronavirus or other disasters in future) I also want to cultivate (agriculture) our own food (not all food but some). However we already have three houses and it might help me to save and better utilize my lower middleclass income for old age. Though my only fear is always-bed old age or ventilator-old age life.
More like road blocks to keep those people in or at least find ouit where they are going to make sure they quarantine for 14 days once they get to their destination. That is what Texas did at the Louisana border after New Orleans had their big spike.
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self sufficient is not always what its cracked up to be...lol
we spent all day today at the wood pile splitting wood for next winter. we do it in the spring when its cooler than waiting until fall and try to burn green firewood later
At least you had a hydraulic splitter. I remember doing it with a splitting maul and was doing it with a heavy double edged axw before Grandady got the maul. At least he had a good sharpening stone to keep the edges on the axes.
Dynamiting tree stumps was much more fun. My Grandaddy had a limted use permit from the ATF so he could buy it.
You you are right my husband has a hydraulic splitter..lol I was just the stacker & for moral support to tell him what he was doing wrong.
He did the sawing and splitting. 
I really don't know what to say, is it really that hard to understand that even if you don't die of the virus it's not fine to endanger others?
...1977, that was when I moved to New Orleans (late March) after that extreme winter of 76-77 we experienced in Wisconsin. Mum had passed on and left us all with a little inheritance so I thought a good time to leave college (which wasn't working out) and get a "real life". Had a high school mate in the pre-med programme at Loyola so I had a connection there. Was an interesting time.
...we've been very fortunate here in Oregon as the governor jumped on the situation in mid March, ordering non essential business closures and a few days later the stay at home order. While we've been flattening the curve the governor has extended the quarantine and distancing orders until the end of May. Once we get on the downside of the curve (which we are getting close to) maybe border restrictions may not be a bad idea.
YEAH, I was finally able to get into the Get My Payment website late yesterday and enter my info. Getting direct deposit. Now the waiting game begins all over again.
How am I greeting the end of the world? With a smile... Now to try to go find a small freezer somewhere.
Freezing yourself till this is all over isn't the solution... Well, maybe you can... I don't know...
I doesn't really work for me...
I can't do it because 1- I don't really fit and the door doesn't close, and 2- They keep throwing me out because I look all "freezer burned" and I eventually defrost and I wake up covered in raccoons.
Hint: Liquid nitrogen. Try it, you'll like it. Well, once perhaps.
Definitely! When I was studying to be a certified medical administrative assistant that advice was drilled into us. So much illness can be prevented just by taking the time to wash our hands!
For part of my career, I worked for a government statistical agency. Later in my career, part of my job was fact checking for policymakers. I have a general caution about citing current stats as "Covid-19 is .... compared to..."
Government disease experts across many countries keep repeating that we do not know in real time many important parameters of Covid-19. We may know much more soon, but at the moment we have only fragments of important information. And thats OK. Check the transcripts and the news releases for the disclaimers yourself. They really do mean the disclaimers. Its not boilerplate that the lawyers stuck in to avoid liability. Experts are gathering and processing that information as fast as they can, constrained by the need to use some of the testing reources for diagnoses/treatment of immediate patients rather than surveillance of the public at large.
We are like a fleet in WWII waiting for the majority of the scout planes to return. One scout plane has reported sighting an enemy vessel that usually accompanies an aircraft carrier task force. Do we know there is at least one enemy aircraft carrier nearby? A base on a nearby island radios and says it is being attacked by short-range planes usually dispatched from carriers. Now we are confident there is at least one carrier. But how many carriers? One, two, three, four? How big is the accompanying strike force and what other types of ships do they have? Where are they headed?
There are important decisions that have to be made before the rest of the scout planes report and fill in the gaps of information. Not to act is an action in and of itself. We don't follow the admiral because we know the inferences gleaned from the intelligence reported to the admiral must be right, we follow the admiral even though we know that the inferences gleaned from the intelligence the admiral is acting on could be wrong. Uncertainty dominates for a time. During that time, we must rely on judgment, not risk calculation in the finance sense (for finance folks, sometimes called Knightian uncertainty). Its the best judgment based on the intelligence available at the moment, fully aware that there are important gaps in knowledge. This isn't a "we can never know anything for sure" issue. The other scout planes will eventually return. Later, we will know more with confidence. But it may not be prudent to wait. Calculations are based on parameters, but we don't know important parameters yet. Its like playing a version of hold'em poker in which your two cards and the flop show only face cards, but you don't know if you are playing with a regular deck or a Pinnocle deck. You can't do true calculation of risk until you know the characteristics of the card deck.
A few days ago, I posted stats from the CDC webpage in various online discussions (not directed at Daz forum mods). Its really just clarification of multiple sides of issues I saw others debating. Can't help myself. Some of those stats tend to favor some folk's positions, others of those stats tend to favor other folk's positions. Some, but not all, of those stats, are sometimes deleted. The deletions do not appear to be correlated with which stats we have the most confidence in at this moment in time. Instead, stats that align with some positions keep getting deleted, but not other positions.
In real time, uncertainty dominates - just ask the relevant disease agency in each country. On Youtube, Facebook, and many other public discussion locations, the apparent bias in deciding which stats are kept and which deleted is disturbing on many levels. The deletions do not appear to be done based on which statistics are (a) most relvant to the issues at hand, and (b) we have most confidence in at this moment in time. The deletions appear more often to be to silence critics of a particular public policy position so that the merits (or lack thereof) of the position don't have to be addressed. There is a very strong reply to the merits of various positions - for example, decisions have to be made despite uncertainty! We already have a tragedy, to be wrong on this could make the current tragedy the worst calamity in a century. Personally, I would prefer the world to use the honest reply rather than censorship.
Currently, we know with confidence that Covid-19 can spread before a person shows symptoms, and therefore is of the class of diseases capable of causing a pandemic. But, we do not know with confidence what the true parameter of contagiousness of Covid-19 is (likelihood of contracting it given exposure). Currently, we know with confidence that some of the people who contract Covid-19 die. However, because we do not know the number of people who have had it but did not develop severe symptoms, we do not know the true parameter for the mortality rate (likelihood of dying given infection). These are not unknowable parameters in an objective sense. Later, in hindsight, we will have more confidence in these parameters. But right now, we cannot say with confidence that the "r-naught parameter" is (insert a number) or other some other important model parameters. We do have some snippets of information - such as cruise ships and some other contained areas in which we believe almost everyone was exposed. But those examples are not representative samples - both because of adverse selection of which people go on cruises, etc., and other factors that might affect the disease, or not - such as co-morbidity with specific patient health, or weather, etc. We have some countries and areas that have done more testing of asymptomatic people - but again we can't yet control for other factors that might, or might not, affect the disease. Some of those countries announce their "R-naught" but please read their caveats and disclaimers. Their experts tell you they are still uncertain, and that the announced "R-naught" is subject to change as new information comes in.
Please have less confidence that "Covid-19 is .... compared to..." just because one stat is cited. I do encourage you to have confidence that the experts really are experts, and they are doing the best they can with the information they have - subject to change as more informaiton comes in. But expect them to flip-flop on at least some important decisions as more information comes in. Here are two less important examples. In my area, we were told that ordinary people should not wear masks (save them for medical personnel), and they closed craft stores as non-essential. They then changed their minds. Regular people should wear makeshift masks, and the craft stores should reopen. Its OK. Don't lose confidence in the experts. They updated their decisions as new information came in. That is a good thing. Somewhere along the line, they will flip-flop on more important decisions. That will be OK too. Uncertainty sucks, but we must make an initial decision. New information comes in, and its OK to change based on the new information.
But in my view, silencing people who disagree is not only bad manners and bad public policy, it is bad science.
Prudence is good, panic is bad, especially in a crisis.
mods like all of us are humans with biases
which is why I tend to discuss 3D models, rendering and software
but
That must be about the best explained reasoning I have heard thus far in the pandemic, Diomede.
And I hope it's not just because it tallies so closely with what I have felt. Medical advice during this pandemic will - and must - change as the knowledge of how things are progressing changes. Not to change the advice in the light of evidence and reasoned predictions based on expected/calculated trends will either kill many people, or break economies and also kill many people through poverty. It's like trying to find a path through a swamp with no map, in the fog so that looking ahead is almost impossible. There may be many paths, but some will have more difficulties associated with them than others. Trying to decide on the best (or least bad) path takes judgement and reasoned guesswork, as it's impossible to stand still long enough to the full information. It is also guaranteed that some of the decisions will, in hindsight, be wrong. I feel we cannot hold those making the decisions to account for their wrong decisions in the future so long as they believed they were doing the right/best thing at the time. If however, they were being manifestly stupid and wilfully putting people's lives at risk contrary to all prevailing advice, then they should be personally held to account for every stupidity they acted or uttered. There have been recent stories of people in a couple of foreign countries doing just this recently and I hope their voters show their appreciation next election.
However, I still reserve the right to grumble vociferously into my beard, as I'm always righter than anyone else, especially in hindsight.
No, I'm in the market for a small freezer to add capacity suince the refrigerator's freezer that came with the apartment is just too small. Welt looking for a small freezer a few weeks back but small chest freezers and smaller upright freezers are sold out and out of stock everywhere. Like I said in an earlier post, it is "The Great Toilet Paper & Small Freezer Shortage of 2020"
a chest freezer best for bodies
yeah, there are a lot of selfish, stupid people in the world and things like this pandemic really bring them out into the light. we have a salon owner here in Dallas that despite govt orders, kept her salon open. She got a citation for it and in a public demonstration tore it up and kept the salon open. I hope they throw her in a dark hole for a long time. I understand people needing to make a living, but when your business involves coming in contact with others, then you are risking the lives of other people for your selfish ways.
If you only had the chest you could get by with a bar freezer. Arms, legs & head could be frozen separately.
Don't know who is more stupid, the owner who keeps the venue open, or the customers who continue coming. I understand that some people actually require professional help to look non-scary in public but they shouldn't be in public during these times anyway.
But I'm not a canibal. Besides there are certain chemicals that will make a body go away right down the bath tub drain. (Maniacial laughter and insane giggles ensue).
...yeah it's finally working. Put in my address info and it mentions the deposit was be today. Checked my account and yep, there it is. Finally can get a few things I've needed for the flat.
...or you don't wake up until the year a 3000 and wind up hanging out in Manhattan with a Yiddish crustacean, a voluptuous purple haired cyclops, an ill mannered beer swilling robot, and a 100+ year old absent minded professor.
..BWAHAHA!
well it depends on why you have the body
if you have a free range pig farm for example
I wouldn't like going forward in time... too many spoilers. Besides, going back to 1887 was disorienting enough and the time travel sickness is not something one likes repeating... But that's a story for another time.
Back in the day, when I was a groundgripper and wedlocked, my ex got sick of splitting the teatree and parked his 11 ton Hitachi excavator in the middle of the yard and swapped out the drainage bucket for the rock tooth. He then surrounded the digger with an enormous circle of firewood, hopped in the digger and proceeded to tap the top of each piece with the tooth. He had the job done in five minutes. Took him several more hours to pack all that wood away
I went ashore yesterday for the first time in a month. New Zealand was still there, the supermarket was fully stocked and I got everything I wanted. I needed to visit my doctor and had an hour long consultation with their visiting student doctor, Charlotte-Rose (she will be a brilliant GP, empathetic, curious, thorough, and downright lovely), an hour, who'da thunk it, I really felt heard, I felt I'd done a good deed for the day giving the poor girl something to get her teeth into (doctors have been having very few in-surgery consultations and those mostly flu symptoms related and being seen by the surgery GP), I'll now want hour long consultations forevermore and be disapponted.