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Underbelly with Vladimir 8 maps - https://www.daz3d.com/vladimir-8

Phoenix1966

xyer0 said:

Phoenix1966 said:

@xyer0 There is only one set of textures for the arms and they have tattoos. I created a new set of textures for his arms without the tats (and then had to also replace the hands, because without the tats, they are extremely red and look scalded and strange).

Thanks, @Phoenix1966, for the explanation. If I may ask, do you have one more man for us on the backburner before Genesis 8 goes bye-bye?

@xyer0, I've got one or two fellows that I've been tinkering with.  But this fellow, now that he's got new arms (and is now intact) has been distracting me.

xyer0

Phoenix1966 said:

xyer0 said:

Phoenix1966 said:

@xyer0 There is only one set of textures for the arms and they have tattoos. I created a new set of textures for his arms without the tats (and then had to also replace the hands, because without the tats, they are extremely red and look scalded and strange).

Thanks, @Phoenix1966, for the explanation. If I may ask, do you have one more man for us on the backburner before Genesis 8 goes bye-bye?

@xyer0, I've got one or two fellows that I've been tinkering with.  But this fellow, now that he's got new arms (and is now intact) has been distracting me.

Thanks. I can wait. Carry on.

lilweep

marble said:

j cade said:

marble said:

j cade said:

aaaand a v quick render with less extra lighting to show off what the beard actually looks like if you fix the line width size

 

look at your man

 

look at me.

 

this is what your man's hair could look like if you fix the line width size

Unfortunately, no matter how close you get with the skin and hair, the damn shirt is a dead give-away. It just shouts polygons rather than cloth - at least for me.

Clothing is currently my white whale. TBF I didnt actually spend all that much time on the clothes, I could definitely improve them, but its definitely the area I need to do a deep dive on next

Yeah, same for me. The clothes always let me down. I spend hours on combinations of dForce and morphs trying to make them look natural but that goal eludes me still. You might have to put your Blender skills to work?

By the way, I have the slip in your signature ... one of the better pre-dForce items of clothing. I tried to add dForce to it but is exploded no matter what I did. Maybe all the stringy bits.

if it d-forces, it will work in Marvelous Designer typically (as obj to garment).  Any rigid follow nodes that fall off can usually be replaced pretty easily should that happen.

j cade said:

Artini said:

j cade said:

aaaand a v quick render with less extra lighting to show off what the beard actually looks like if you fix the line width size

 

look at your man

 

look at me.

 

this is what your man's hair could look like if you fix the line width size

How do you fix the line width size?

Could you please elaborate more about your fix.

 

 

I went slightly more in depth in the comment before I posted the picture, but just not in the image demonstrating it which was silly.

 

It's right in the material settings panel. There are two properties called "line start width" and "line end width" (easiest way to find them is to type "line" in the search at the top 9f the materials tab). They control the thickness of the stands. The hair and beard have the start width set at .2 if you turn it down to .1 and turn the end width down to .05 or .06 the strands will be twice as thin and not look so chunky

 

there are also some other settings in there that can be nice to expiriment with, If you've fiddled with the strand editor you might notice all the names match up with the settings there. There's one called something like random length that does exactly what it sounds like and can make things look more uneven for instance

the what tab

Richard Haseltine

lilweep said:

marble said:

j cade said:

marble said:

j cade said:

aaaand a v quick render with less extra lighting to show off what the beard actually looks like if you fix the line width size

 

look at your man

 

look at me.

 

this is what your man's hair could look like if you fix the line width size

Unfortunately, no matter how close you get with the skin and hair, the damn shirt is a dead give-away. It just shouts polygons rather than cloth - at least for me.

Clothing is currently my white whale. TBF I didnt actually spend all that much time on the clothes, I could definitely improve them, but its definitely the area I need to do a deep dive on next

Yeah, same for me. The clothes always let me down. I spend hours on combinations of dForce and morphs trying to make them look natural but that goal eludes me still. You might have to put your Blender skills to work?

By the way, I have the slip in your signature ... one of the better pre-dForce items of clothing. I tried to add dForce to it but is exploded no matter what I did. Maybe all the stringy bits.

if it d-forces, it will work in Marvelous Designer typically (as obj to garment).  Any rigid follow nodes that fall off can usually be replaced pretty easily should that happen.

j cade said:

Artini said:

j cade said:

aaaand a v quick render with less extra lighting to show off what the beard actually looks like if you fix the line width size

 

look at your man

 

look at me.

 

this is what your man's hair could look like if you fix the line width size

How do you fix the line width size?

Could you please elaborate more about your fix.

 

 

I went slightly more in depth in the comment before I posted the picture, but just not in the image demonstrating it which was silly.

 

It's right in the material settings panel. There are two properties called "line start width" and "line end width" (easiest way to find them is to type "line" in the search at the top 9f the materials tab). They control the thickness of the stands. The hair and beard have the start width set at .2 if you turn it down to .1 and turn the end width down to .05 or .06 the strands will be twice as thin and not look so chunky

 

there are also some other settings in there that can be nice to expiriment with, If you've fiddled with the strand editor you might notice all the names match up with the settings there. There's one called something like random length that does exactly what it sounds like and can make things look more uneven for instance

the what tab

The Surfaces pane

deathbycanon

He makes a great biker dude. :) 

 

jakiblue

Daaaaaaaaaamn. That pic of him on the bike is almost enough to make me get him! WOW, awesome work! 

deathbycanon said:

He makes a great biker dude. :) 

 

 

davidtriune

 

jakiblue said:

Daaaaaaaaaamn. That pic of him on the bike is almost enough to make me get him! WOW, awesome work! 

deathbycanon said:

He makes a great biker dude. :) 

 

 

"almost" but not quite good enough LOL

jakiblue

LOL! Nothing against deathbycanon's art because it's a fabulous pic - only because I think the figure's arms are too long (or legs too short...) and it would bug the hell out of me when I used him. 

davidtriune said:

 

jakiblue said:

Daaaaaaaaaamn. That pic of him on the bike is almost enough to make me get him! WOW, awesome work! 

deathbycanon said:

He makes a great biker dude. :) 

 

 

"almost" but not quite good enough LOL

 

vwrangler

jakiblue said:

LOL! Nothing against deathbycanon's art because it's a fabulous pic - only because I think the figure's arms are too long (or legs too short...) and it would bug the hell out of me when I used him. 

You know, if you have the Genesis 8 Male Body Morphs, you can always adjust that with the various propagating scales, and the arm/leg length sliders.

Lindsey

Adjusted Underbelly's arms and hands with morphs I had available to me.

3Diva

Lindsey said:

Adjusted Underbelly's arms and hands with morphs I had available to me.

Nice! Looks good with just two morph adjustments! :)

Soto

Underbelly and Maxx (again) ​with Brute 8 HD Add On, customized Leland textures and Volta Beard.

 

3Diva

Hellboy said:

Underbelly and Maxx (again) ​with Brute 8 HD Add On, customized Leland textures and Volta Beard.

 

Oh man, Gorgeous render!

1gecko

jakiblue said:

Daaaaaaaaaamn. That pic of him on the bike is almost enough to make me get him! WOW, awesome work! 

deathbycanon said:

He makes a great biker dude. :) 

 

 

WOW!!  Yes - looks like he could pull up next to Ron Perlman ("Sons of Anarchy")!

well, he is on my wishlish - though I admit the priority just rose a number of notches, hahahaha!

1gecko

Divamakeup said:

Hellboy said:

Underbelly and Maxx (again) ​with Brute 8 HD Add On, customized Leland textures and Volta Beard.

 

Oh man, Gorgeous render!

Agreed! very nice

deathbycanon

Hellboy said:

Underbelly and Maxx (again) ​with Brute 8 HD Add On, customized Leland textures and Volta Beard.

 

Fantastic character! 

deathbycanon

His arms are very long, and his hands are huge. Here's one just playing with daz's male body morphs

 

This one uses that last morph

 

 

3Diva

deathbycanon said:

His arms are very long, and his hands are huge. Here's one just playing with daz's male body morphs

 

This one uses that last morph

 

 

Those came out really good! I like the last morph the most, as well. 

thedoctor

j cade said:

Artini said:

j cade said:

 

 

I went slightly more in depth in the comment before I posted the picture, but just not in the image demonstrating it which was silly.

 

It's right in the material settings panel. There are two properties called "line start width" and "line end width" (easiest way to find them is to type "line" in the search at the top 9f the materials tab). They control the thickness of the stands. The hair and beard have the start width set at .2 if you turn it down to .1 and turn the end width down to .05 or .06 the strands will be twice as thin and not look so chunky

 

there are also some other settings in there that can be nice to expiriment with, If you've fiddled with the strand editor you might notice all the names match up with the settings there. There's one called something like random length that does exactly what it sounds like and can make things look more uneven for instance

 

j cade said:

aaaand a v quick render with less extra lighting to show off what the beard actually looks like if you fix the line width size

 

look at your man

look at me.

this is what your man's hair could look like if you fix the line width size

Fantastic tip, man. I can't thank you enough. HUGE difference and I would have never found the setting without your posts. THANKS!

vwrangler

Underbelly and his clothing had an update in DIM today. Unfortunately, there's no note in thre readme about what happened. Wonder what was updated?

nemesis10

vwrangler said:

Underbelly and his clothing had an update in DIM today. Unfortunately, there's no note in thre readme about what happened. Wonder what was updated?

There is a no tattoo mat setting....  I think the others were about fit and compatability.

Serene Night

I was told the vest had buttons now and the character had no tat option.

IUS

And they also added Leg Hair

3Diva

Ahhhh He looks SO GOOD! I really like that he has a no tat option now! 

Here I dialled in some adjustments (just to suit my personal tastes). :) 

vwrangler

Serene Night said:

I was told the vest had buttons now and the character had no tat option.

And so he does, and it does. I hadn't had a chance to look at him when I typed that. Should remember to wait to see next time.

It also looks like his clothing -- or at least the vest -- was changed so that it no longer has his body shape baked into it.

Unfortunately, the way the buttons were handled -- as a layer sitting on top of the vest -- means that the vest no longer dForces, which it used to do quite nicely. Every time I tried with the new vest, no matter what I did, it exploded. It looks like even though the buttons look like they're just a new surface, there's somehow some layered geometry that doesn't get along with dForce. Ah, well.

IUS said:

And they also added Leg Hair

Indeed they did. And they also added the materials for his other hair that wasn't there before. He's had quite the makeover, really.

Image below shows the new arms and the new vest.

(Side note: I don't know if there's a single expression around that doesn't make him look a teensy bit terrifying.)

Serene Night

The vest doesn't fit well on my characters. I tend to just leave it off because it stretches and looks odd. It looks good on underbelly though.

WendyLuvsCatz

I might have to wishlist him now as the skin fix and hair make him quite tempting

DisparateDreamer

i have to say the update makes a very good character set into a 5 star set!!! Feels way more polished/finished now. Thanks so much and WOW to the daz team for listening to feedback and making this bundle/set as awesome as it could be!

Mister Daddy Longlegs

The head is great, but from the neck down its a wreck. I can't believe no one has mentioned his ridiculously sized traps, like all the guy does is barbell shrugs all day. He needs some cannonball delts to go along with that. Its beyond cartoonish, the long arms I could overlook before those traps. But maybe thats just me from lifting for 30 years. Anyway, I still like him, his face is worth it alone as compared to all the Gen 8 pretty boys.