Announcing The Platinum Club Plus [Beta] Program
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I'll second that. Thank you indeed Sedor.
Guess I missed the Weasel :P
Thanks for the heads-up.
Well if there is a store with a 60% off and it's a PC+ store, the discounts are supposed to stack aren't they?
RawArts Shanty Town doesn't give any more discount, it stays 60%. (I've already got it, not affecting me.) Haven't tested the other 60% off in the rotating banner.
EDIT: Sorry, that should be The AntFarm. And they are a participating vendor this week. My boo-boo, I just put the wrong vendor, but the question is still the same. :)
I have only question I still havent found the answer to. For the $6 coupon with the minimum $18 purchase, does it matter what products the $18 order consist of?
-MJ
Thanks Dumorian and DzFire and Sedor for the generous free items. Very cool! :)
Not to mention the boat! You done good, Jack (as always). :)
And great PC stuff this week too. I think I'm getting spoiled. LOL
First post:
Receive an additional $6.00 good toward anything in the store, including Premier Artist catalogs (excludes new releases, gift cards and memberships). This coupon requires an $18.00 minimum purchase giving Platinum Club Plus members up to 33% off Premier Artist products even if they aren’t currently featured or on sale.
Okay, I'm confused.
Zev0 is participating. So I should get 30% off. And I do.
http://www.daz3d.com/skin-builder-for-genesis-and-genesis2-female-s
So it shows 39.95 down to 27.96 (30%)
Then in the cart, it went to 19.57 because I purchased one of the required promo items.
So again, why is the item in the rotating banner only giving 60% for RawArt, who is a participating store, and NOT giving us the additional 30% off?
First post:
Receive an additional $6.00 good toward anything in the store, including Premier Artist catalogs (excludes new releases, gift cards and memberships). This coupon requires an $18.00 minimum purchase giving Platinum Club Plus members up to 33% off Premier Artist products even if they aren’t currently featured or on sale.
So even though its being called the PA Coupon, it can be used on DO's as well, or a mixture of both? Same as the other coupon? Just has an $18 minimum?
-MJ
Because as of yesterday, Raw Art is no longer a PC+ PA.
They said that the PA's in PC+ were going to rotate, and that said rotation would happen on Mondays.
All current PC+ vendors are listed at the top of the Platinum Club pages.
Sorry, I meant The AntFarm. And yes they are a participating vendor.
Yes, with the exclusions as previously listed in the first post that I copied/pasted.
Yes, you're right. AntFarm is still a participating vendor.
However, I think it was also said that it would be up to the PA if the discounts stacked or not. Hopefully you can get some clarification on this soon.
Yes, you're right. AntFarm is still a participating vendor.
However, I think it was also said that it would be up to the PA if the discounts stacked or not. Hopefully you can get some clarification on this soon.
Sorry to keep banging on about this, but this situation is exactly why DAZ are going to have so many problems as a result of PC+ - they can't even get their own, non-PC sales to work properly most of the time, and then adding in all of these extra clauses just confuses and irritates people.
I have a better suggestion: How about scrapping the Platinum Club, simplifying the deals, and introducing a basic system of rewards points earned by all customers on all purchases, redeemable against all products?
The system operated by another site, whose name I'm prohibited from mentioning, but it begins with R, ends with Y, and has recently changed its thumbnail sizes, has always worked well for me - it's simple and fair; the exact opposite of most DAZ promotions!
ps: And you don't need a degree in Theoretical Physics to work out what something is going to cost!!!
Yes, you're right. AntFarm is still a participating vendor.
However, I think it was also said that it would be up to the PA if the discounts stacked or not. Hopefully you can get some clarification on this soon.
Well, soon is probably about to end. It's 10 till 1am and the store changes over in about 15 to 20 minutes. :)
After an... interesting experience yesterday and today I think my fears about the new PC+ system were right: Too complicated, and we all know that where there's the chance for a glitch, the DAZ shop program will jump at it. I definitely don't like to waste hours finding out which item could be PC+ discounted. I have better things to do. I think I would be glad to get back to the 'normal' PC - or, if this is not possible, change to another shop, where the rules are fair and simple.
If customers have problems with this new system, it is not their fault, but a clear sign that the rules are to be overhauled. The DAZ marketing team should not overwork their customers' patience. >:-(
Just wanted to say a big thank you to Dumor3D for the great freebie the other day, I can't wait to play with the wine props. And of course thanks to Sedor also, but I thanked him(?) in a different thread.
Too difficult for me. I want the old PC system back. Coupon's for PC items and 1,99 items back.
As we've said - nothing is set in stone.. however what I can say is that if we reverted back to just 1.99 items we certainly couldn't offer the same coupons like we have during the PC+ beta.
Love the beta PC+. Great opportunities get some excellent things at very good prices. Easy to use. The new coupons are great. I would be perfectly happy if this becomes the new standard.
Ciao
TD
Sorry to keep banging on about this, but this situation is exactly why DAZ are going to have so many problems as a result of PC+ - they can't even get their own, non-PC sales to work properly most of the time, and then adding in all of these extra clauses just confuses and irritates people.
I have a better suggestion: How about scrapping the Platinum Club, simplifying the deals, and introducing a basic system of rewards points earned by all customers on all purchases, redeemable against all products?
The system operated by another site, whose name I'm prohibited from mentioning, but it begins with R, ends with Y, and has recently changed its thumbnail sizes, has always worked well for me - it's simple and fair; the exact opposite of most DAZ promotions!
ps: And you don't need a degree in Theoretical Physics to work out what something is going to cost!!!
Okay...I'm not saying the math for the DAZ sales is simple, but I'm getting tired of the hyperbole about how difficult it is.
I *hate* math. Way, way back when I took my ACT test, I got scores in the 95%-99% range in everything *but* math which was down at 77%. When it comes to the DAZ sales, I may occasionally mis-read or miss entirely, a given provision, but once I've read it all, I usually have no problem with the math. Now, I'll concede that not everyone has the time to read all the bits and caveats. However for *this* sale, most of the bits and caveats were spelled out very, very well in the second post. Including whether sales on PA items stack with their PC+ discount.
Have there been things missed? Sure. DAZ doesn't have banks of people triple checking it when they set up the parameters for the sale, and in this Specific Case, I'm guessing that the default assumption on DAZ's part is that the PA's don't want the PC+ Sale to stack with any other promotions, leaving it up to the PA to tell them otherwise. And whether it was oversight or deliberate on AntFarm's part, he wasn't available for them to contact and verify in time.
As for the rewards program you speak of... There is a different store which I think does rewards much, much better than the one you speak of. I haven't spent enough to earn rewards at the site you speak of in over a year, while the other site uses a reward point system you can use immediately, without a minimum spent. (though there are only so many points you can spend in a given transaction.)
Either way, either rewards system replacing the PC would be a *huge* blow to my purchasing power at DAZ. So while they may work fine for you, they would *not* work fine for me.
Seconding this. I have never spent enough in a month at R to trigger the bonus, and the bonus itself is trivial. One item at 30% off saves me more that that, and I don't have to spend anything the month before, nor do I have to wait a month for the reward.
Sorry to keep banging on about this, but this situation is exactly why DAZ are going to have so many problems as a result of PC+ - they can't even get their own, non-PC sales to work properly most of the time, and then adding in all of these extra clauses just confuses and irritates people.
I have a better suggestion: How about scrapping the Platinum Club, simplifying the deals, and introducing a basic system of rewards points earned by all customers on all purchases, redeemable against all products?
The system operated by another site, whose name I'm prohibited from mentioning, but it begins with R, ends with Y, and has recently changed its thumbnail sizes, has always worked well for me - it's simple and fair; the exact opposite of most DAZ promotions!
ps: And you don't need a degree in Theoretical Physics to work out what something is going to cost!!!
Okay...I'm not saying the math for the DAZ sales is simple, but I'm getting tired of the hyperbole about how difficult it is.
I *hate* math. Way, way back when I took my ACT test, I got scores in the 95%-99% range in everything *but* math which was down at 77%. When it comes to the DAZ sales, I may occasionally mis-read or miss entirely, a given provision, but once I've read it all, I usually have no problem with the math. Now, I'll concede that not everyone has the time to read all the bits and caveats. However for *this* sale, most of the bits and caveats were spelled out very, very well in the second post. Including whether sales on PA items stack with their PC+ discount.
Have there been things missed? Sure. DAZ doesn't have banks of people triple checking it when they set up the parameters for the sale, and in this Specific Case, I'm guessing that the default assumption on DAZ's part is that the PA's don't want the PC+ Sale to stack with any other promotions, leaving it up to the PA to tell them otherwise. And whether it was oversight or deliberate on AntFarm's part, he wasn't available for them to contact and verify in time.
As for the rewards program you speak of... There is a different store which I think does rewards much, much better than the one you speak of. I haven't spent enough to earn rewards at the site you speak of in over a year, while the other site uses a reward point system you can use immediately, without a minimum spent. (though there are only so many points you can spend in a given transaction.)
Either way, either rewards system replacing the PC would be a *huge* blow to my purchasing power at DAZ. So while they may work fine for you, they would *not* work fine for me.
Good. Glad to hear you are happy, but this isn't hyperbole - it's demonstratable fact, as evidenced by the numerous postings on the subject of sale complexity.
The system is easy for those who can speak and write good English. The other customers are clearly at a disadvantage.
If promo's are too complex you loose'em
"For a marketing organization, what does it take to acquire sticky consumers?
Our study found that the best tool for measuring consumer-engagement efforts is the “decision simplicity index,” a gauge of how easy it is for consumers to gather and understand (or navigate) information about a brand, how much they can trust the information they find, and how readily they can weigh their options. The easier a brand makes the purchase-decision journey, the higher its decision-simplicity score. Brands that scored in the top quarter in our study were 86% more likely than those in the bottom quarter to be purchased by the consumers considering them. They were 9% more likely to be repurchased and 115% more likely to be recommended to others."
"Businesses broadly misjudge what consumers want from them online. In particular, marketers often believe that consumers interact with them on social media to join a community and feel connected to the brand. But consumers have little interest in having a relationship beyond the merely transactional."
Their top reasons for connecting online: to get information and discounts, and to buy things.
More from this study ar http://hbr.org/2012/05/to-keep-your-customers-keep-it-simple/ar/1
Incidentally, i'm in the "Be Part of a Community" category..
Good. Glad to hear you are happy, but this isn't hyperbole - it's demonstratable fact, as evidenced by the numerous postings on the subject of sale complexity.
Comparing the complexity of the sale to a degree Theoretical Physics isn't hyperbole? Seriously?
I never said the sales weren't complicated, and yes, simpler sales would be better. But despite the many posts where people have claimed otherwise, you don't need an advanced degree to understand them. I should know, because I don't have one. Now, either I'm smarter than the average bear (which at least in math, I am not) or the declarations of needing an advanced degree to understand the sales are hyperbole born of frustration.
Now this, on the other hand, is a valid point. Customers who aren't strong in English would have more difficulty understanding the ins and outs. But it still doesn't call for an advanced degree in math (or maths, if you prefer)
Many prices on the DAZ page are correct. The problem is that I, as a customer, feel like can't rely on DAZ shop to give me the correct price.
I can accept the occasional error, but having MAJOR errors occuring every day has caused me to distrust the shop, and re-calculate every cart, to se if the discounts are applied as they are supposed to be.
How this makes me feel as a customer? Like to DAZ, I'm not worth the effort that they get their numbers right. Again, I am not talking about the occasional glitch, but "The Daily Glitch". This is a "perceived" feeling of unreliability, mind you.
Thusly, the fact that PC will now dive head-long into the "Glitch-Valley" (80% off sales glitch, anyone? ;-P) has kind of destroyed any "simple system" that the stackings might be, and any advantage this might bring on the long run.
"Solid" prices mean security, in a shop software that you have to control on every step that you make as a customer.
I guess that I am not alone in feeling this distrust. It's nothing that has to do with the PC Club, or the PC+, it's just a general "DAZ Shop" thing, and that makes me sad, because I do see the advantages of the PC+.
Also, I second Conny in her point about language-disadvantages. You'll need someone to translate to your language, to fully understand just how the sale work. THAT is how bad the sales structure is by now, i.e. when your English is not that of a native speaker.
I find this statement very offensive.
All I can tell you at this point is that PC+ is working out very well for me, simply because I have had the funds to take advantage of fleeting opportunities. The fact that discounts stack on top of discounts brings prices down immensely - as long as you can pay for that cart full you end up with.
That works well for the higher budget customers, not so hot for the lower budget ones. Perhaps DAZ needs two clubs, one catering to each type...
I find this statement very offensive.
I think the OP meant that people native or familiar to slang and common marketing phrases used in the United States and the confusion generated by making literate translations. It was too broad a brush to just assume language is a discriminator, Politically Correct point taken. I don't think the OP meant any insult though.