Tara 8 bundle

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  • cloth1975 said:

    Hello,

    it's probably just me, but the seventh promo render of the base character product
    (the one where she's winking) really triggers the uncanny valley for me.

    However I can't really tell why exactly that is.

    Best regards,

     

     

    UGH! That render is awful!  The hair clipping in and out of the cheek looks painful, the eyelid has no texture and something crazy is happening to the nose. Sloppy.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680

    Seems like the scar would be an easy fix for someone with photoshop skills. Its not super big, so the maps could be altered to remove it with ease.

  • Seems like the scar would be an easy fix for someone with photoshop skills. Its not super big, so the maps could be altered to remove it with ease.

    Cut all the maps in half (vertically), then mirror them. Not real fancy, but it would get the job done.

  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 661
    edited August 2020

    Just to say this: I don't like the Daz new concept which is to make new bundles including older items because I already have many and in the end it is not interesting despite the discounts. I tthink they are for occasional byuers and not for old customers like some of us are.....

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  • kanfrekanfre Posts: 24

    Not really interested in the character herself, but the Tara Outfit is really awesome, the amount of details is amazing.

    Thanks for this one, and kudos to the people who made it :)

  • wilfred said:

    Just to say this: I don't like the Daz new concept which is to make new bundles including older items because I already have many and in the end it is not interesting despite the discounts. I tthink they are for occasional byuers and not for old customers like some of us are.....

    Look at this like the Underbelly bundle, a figure made elsewhere, brought into Daz Studio with some additional thematic items put with it to make a bundle. It's not really Tara 8 despite how it's listed.

    As for what happened with Honni 8 it seems like there was a last minute decision to go with a Weird West theme so they bumped a plain looking new outfit to put in an older outfit that added to the theme. It's pretty clear from what happened on release day and the promo images that the change occurred late in the decision making process. Doesn't really look like a sign that they plan to bundle older stuff with new pro bundles going forward, at least not on a regular basis. 

     

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    A couple of things.  The earrings from the outfit don't know exactly where the ears are.  Maybe they're just stopping for directions?  And the scars on Tara are part of her sculpt.  They aren't super noticeable with alternate skins.  They're fine imo, and lend a bit of character imo.  There are lots of flawless characters, after all.

     

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  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 567
    edited August 2020

    her outfit looks like Linday's style, I might buy it even, just the outfit

    even though I get this banner 

    Because you're a loyal Genesis 8 Pro Bundle Collector, we're offering you an EXTRA 20% OFF any of today's three Bundles!

    It's all too confusing for me lol, I got an 8% banner but also the 20% under it

    In my cart it's $90.14 (64% off)...$40.14 after credit but also not discounted in the Interactive Licence sale.. 

    Not a lot I can use but $18 for a couple of old pro bundles I wanted may be worth it?????  New artists so no idea how light in triangles it might be.

    Could someone who's bought it already give me a look at the ctris count for the Tara Outfit? (on the fbx export page)

    On a different note, the fact the Tara Fierce Bundle has no Tara content, not even the promo image items beggars belief!

     

     

     

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  • DripDrip Posts: 1,206

    her outfit looks like Linday's style, I might buy it even, just the outfit

    even though I get this banner 

    Because you're a loyal Genesis 8 Pro Bundle Collector, we're offering you an EXTRA 20% OFF any of today's three Bundles!

    It's all too confusing for me lol, I got an 8% banner but also the 20% under it

    In my cart it's $90.14 (64% off)...$40.14 after credit but also not discounted in the Interactive Licence sale.. 

    Not a lot I can use but $18 for a couple of old pro bundles I wanted may be worth it?????  New artists so no idea how light in triangles it might be.

    Could someone who's bought it already give me a look at the ctris count for the Tara Outfit? (on the fbx export page)

    On a different note, the fact the Tara Fierce Bundle has no Tara content, not even the promo image items beggars belief!

     

     

     

    First thing I did, was check how low HD-Addons for other figures go with the world bundle. Around $5.60 for a HD-Addon, not bad really, they rarely go below $11 on other deals, and it's been ages since I saw a "buy X, get Y HD-Addons free" promo.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    I just downloaded the Tara World Adventurer Bundle and looked at the materials too. I am attaching a snip of the materials since a picture is not available in the promos. I am surprised the initial discount price is $22.03 for a character and so few options. I mean, the PAs here work their hearts out to provide us fantastic characters with so many options and the characters are released at ranges of $13 to $17.00 approximately. What is going on?

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    I really like the character, but she's overpriced for a character with no 3DL materials. She's every bit as distinctive as Underbelly, even if she's from a different designer. But the option for 3DL is the major reason why I virtually always buy the offiical DAZ character bases. Underbelly didn't have those either.

    And the confusion is deliberate. The newsletter, calls her Tara 8. Nor is that the only place she's called Tara 8. Just about everywhere she's called Tara 8. Except on her own store page, where she is just Tara.

    All in all I feel like someone is trying to pull a fast one. And in view of that, I Am Offended.

    I am going to pick up the olive trees and shrubs. Those are new content and I'd probably have bought them anyway.

    Tara's own bundle I probably will drop into the cart. I'm waffling on the hair a bit, but the fact that it *does* have 3DL options is a selling point. The outfit is hadsome, but reading the list of parts, it doesn't sound a kitbashable as I'd prefer. That the Tara bundle is roughly the price of the character and hair together means that I don't really have to be in love with the outfit, and the texture add-on gets thrown in.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333

    So this is not a pro bundle but more expensive types of bundles. I thought otherwise when I first got the email today.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    edited August 2020

    Seems like the scar would be an easy fix for someone with photoshop skills. Its not super big, so the maps could be altered to remove it with ease.

    Cut all the maps in half (vertically), then mirror them. Not real fancy, but it would get the job done.

    That would probably also make unwanted seam issues. There are at least four ways of removing a scar like that in Photoshop, all of them quite easy.

    • Laso + Fill > Content-Aware.
    • Heal Tool.
    • Clone Tool.
    • Laso + CTRL J skin from opposite cheek, move over the scar, add a mask layer.

    Ther are other ways too, I'm sure, but those are all really quick and easy and won't cause unwanted seam issues emerging.

    *Edited for formatting.

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  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2020

    If you exactly mirror it, there shouldn't be a seam, though. It'll just be a mirror from that point over.

    Anyway, similar copy pasta over the different maps, a little erasure on one layer so it doesn't look like a mirror image.

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  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 787

    What i like:

    The offer (like Honni) with credit returns is nice, a lot better than select DO credit. Now, i'm not a fan of huge bundles because they require too much money upfront.

    Both selections items with big discounts are really nice too. If they add a store wide sale that then stacks with this, sweet. And even without it: careful DAZ because you can buy two bundles and the discounts stack. You can add the middle one for 52 (with the 20% discount) and get extra savings for over 70 (only tested a couple, but the more expensive the items the biggest the savings). Considering there are PA items involved, i imagine they would be a little concerned about this.

    What i don't like:

    Items from other bundles. I agree with OP here. One thing (not really good) is having older items, another is items from other bundles. I think DAZ needs to add an automatic proportional discount for when you already own an item of any bundle past and future. Having only banners on release is not enough because what if in a couple months i want to buy Tasha, Darcy and Tara bundles?

    The fixed scar and few mat options. Like others said, price is out of proportion. Most DO numbered characters are already on the too expensive side, but this is insane.

    In the middle:

    The new outfit, looks fantastic. And i also see the Linday's "inspiration"........maybe too much inspiration(?). Probably is just me but i think owning some (this one in particular) makes this new one not add much.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    edited August 2020

    If you exactly mirror it, there shouldn't be a seam, though.

    Most texture artists aren't going to texture in such a way that just copying half the face map and mirroring it wouldn't cause seam issues. There are tonal and skin variations that would cause seams when meeting the other maps (around the head, neck, etc). For most skin sets, just cutting one of the maps in half and mirroring it (with no other modifications) would definitely cause seam issues.

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  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    ericolsen said:

    So, just to be clear, Tara comes with the large and small bundles. Not the medium one. If I'm reading this right. 

    it have 3 bundles, 1 mega bundle with everything, one "medium" with only the "old outfits and props and her "tara small bundle" with her own stuffs (character, hair, outfit, pose and outfit textures), you can choose which one of the 3 you want to buy, the most logic would be buy the big specially if you already owns some of the stuffs from the pack to get more discount".

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    JOdel said:

    I really like the character, but she's overpriced for a character with no 3DL materials. She's every bit as distinctive as Underbelly, even if she's from a different designer. But the option for 3DL is the major reason why I virtually always buy the offiical DAZ character bases. Underbelly didn't have those either.

    And the confusion is deliberate. The newsletter, calls her Tara 8. Nor is that the only place she's called Tara 8. Just about everywhere she's called Tara 8. Except on her own store page, where she is just Tara.

    All in all I feel like someone is trying to pull a fast one. And in view of that, I Am Offended.

    I am going to pick up the olive trees and shrubs. Those are new content and I'd probably have bought them anyway.

    Tara's own bundle I probably will drop into the cart. I'm waffling on the hair a bit, but the fact that it *does* have 3DL options is a selling point. The outfit is hadsome, but reading the list of parts, it doesn't sound a kitbashable as I'd prefer. That the Tara bundle is roughly the price of the character and hair together means that I don't really have to be in love with the outfit, and the texture add-on gets thrown in.

    I had this though; is she a core character or not.

    My opinion is that core characters are pricey, with HD an additional pricey extra charge. The character has the cost and an HD but seems to be unsure what they are.

  • cloth1975 said:

    Hello,

    it's probably just me, but the seventh promo render of the base character product
    (the one where she's winking) really triggers the uncanny valley for me.

    It's the ninth that triggers it for me: the one where she's smiling, and her teeth appear to be growing out of her bottom lip.

    For me its both, but I have this problem also with many expression packs, where sometimes all of the expressions are weird even in the promo renderings. On the other hand, judging by gallery votes many people agree with me on what looks right and what not ...

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,373

    I like the character, but it is a no go due to the scar.... send it back to the factory for some modifications. Also way too expensive.

    But her suit is great.

  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    Ellessarr said:

    ok, this one i can't really avoid the rant really srry.

    ok, let me say, while i don't mind too much a new character bundle come with "some old outfits", i really hate when that "outfits" are already part of another bundle, please daz you can stop to add "stuffs" from another bundles???, it's make feel like "buying 2 times the same stuff if i go for both bundles, if i could get a "discount based on the "already owned stuffs" then fine but since we don't get one is really annoying see like 2 of the 5!!!! (90% are old) are "outfits which already come from another bundle, please, don't do that, if you want to add "old stuff" ok but really don't be so bad in adding "stuffs from already existing bundles" it make daz look a lot lazy or greedy, specially since again we don't get any "discount" in a bundle if we already have anything from that bundle before buy the bundle.

     

    ok after the rant, the character look overal, the new outfit really look amazing but i can see it being "really a lot high poly" based on the insane ammount of details, which make it pointless for me, the only reason i would buy it would be maybe for 2 outfits (because some of then i already have the poly count and know which they are high) and one character, which now thinking better it only have 1 character and 1 hair which is another d-force hair which don't work outside daz making this bundle good only if you want to buy a bunch of props ( 5 scenes props 1 weapon props) and maybe 2 renders filters, the outfits are only good if you don't already have neither

    https://www.daz3d.com/darcy-8-pro-bundle   or   https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-immortals-outfit-for-genesis-8-females, if you don't have both then you get 6 outfits ofcourse if you also don't have any of the others 3 old outfits, otherwise if you already have all the olds you will get only 1!!!, or based on any other combination you can ending getting anything between 6 to 1.

     

    ofcourse only if you buy the mega, in case you buy only tara bundle then you get her, 1 hair, one outfit, outfit textures and a pose set, which would be a best deal in many cases than the big bundle, in worst case scene in case you are using outside daz you can use the time/chance to buy the interactive licese for the big bundle and get all the licenses you would need in a big run then buy the stuffs you still missing from the mega apart.


    When  the Walk the Plank and Return to Treasure Island bundles came out they did do a discount as a banner but you had to have previously bought the other bundle first. In my case I had previously bought Sahira 8 so I got the banner.

    I think that was a fair way to handle it.

    In this case if you want both bundles you can get the other pro bundle for around $19 with the discount so I don't really mind.

    This set does look very good to me overall and will most likely buy it.

    the problem with this "way of handle" it is which is a "temporary way", it only work for peoples buying it now", later for the party peoples, not gonna have the same discounts, and gonna have to pay the "normal dicounts" later which make then both expensives, in others stores which i know they give the "bundle" discount let's say "forever in the sense which if you already have some pieces of the bundle you can still get a special discount for those stuffs forever in the bundle not just a "single time", which is my issue here, the discount is a single time and you need to already have, if you are planning to buy "later" then you get nothing, for exemple if my credit card not already was "full broken" i could had bought it with some extra pro bundles i'm deep interested in buy, however, i can't do it now and need to wait til next month to come to buy it then for me it not not gonna work then i will enter in the "later for the party" group, my pocket is not a black hole to have endless money to give to daz cheeky, but not just my case but overal, daz really need to add at last a "forever discount" system for cases like that, where if you alredy own something from the pack you aways get a discount for those stuffs.

     

    but for the me big problem still being using stuffs from "another bundles", if it was non bundle old daz stuffs no issues or in worst case only "base characters" from others bundle would be less but also using outits, hairs, expression and others stuffs from another bundles to fill this bundle really looks so wrong for me, again as i'm told i'm not against using "old stuffs' as long they where in the past stand alone stuffs and not part of others packs/bundles creating "new full sets of bundles" would be much costume friendly than put mixing bundles to make a "new bundle.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    Mega bundle $66 minus $50 store credit and Stonemason's wild west city for $12 sounds like a good deal to me
  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    Mega bundle $66 minus $50 store credit and Stonemason's wild west city for $12 sounds like a good deal to me

    As someone said above, the Store Credit does no reduce the price. It gives you extra to spend later and some discount to spend more on. It does not make you save any money on the bundle. You still spend the same amount of money. That is the problem for many people - the upfront cost is the same.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317
    edited August 2020

    I took the approach to use another skin, in this case Georgina HD for G8F from Colm Jackson who is also freckled.

    The outfit is absolutely not for simulation and if you are going to simulate hair, I highly recommend 'NOT' putting this outfit on first, except for the hood. It locked my system up bad and took a good half hour to unknot itself. I think the separate parts of the outfit might be kitbashable, just depends on what you are mixing it with. 

    The hair looks like it was done by AprilYSH based on how the material icons look and the lovely way it behaves. The poses are great for placing the hair before simulation and if you can't use simulation, it would still look good. 

    The hand pose for the swords, I had to adjust. The fingers went into the handle. But I liked these poses a lot. The swords loaded without their materials, so you have to do it manually.

     

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  • JeniMorrisJeniMorris Posts: 147
    edited August 2020

    I bought the Tara only bundle-the outfit is GORGEOUS!

    This is an Iray preview of a larger render I have going, I did make a 2nd face option without the scar, just bringing the face textures into Photoshop and using the healing brush to blend it.
    I guess I'll see how it looks in the larger final render when it's done ;-)

    I do LOVE the character's face and clothing though!

    Here's a link to the artist's page that originally modeled her...

    https://tristanliu.com/projects/58YQv1

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  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited August 2020

    The outfit is gorgeous in parts...I don't go for the whole no pants thing...but I still want it for kitbashing. Funny tho...parts are very similar to Sabriel by Mada - 

    https://www.daz3d.com/sabriel-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    And just like Underbelly, it's a shame she doesn't translate to Daz-land as nicely as the original. 

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,903
    edited August 2020

    The outfit is gorgeous in parts...I don't go for the whole no pants thing...but I still want it for kitbashing. Funny tho...parts are very similar to Sabriel by Mada - 

    https://www.daz3d.com/sabriel-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    And just like Underbelly, it's a shame she doesn't translate to Daz-land as nicely as the original. 

    I suspect that what happened with Underbelly will happen with Tara. There will be a later update addressing areas of concern -- possibly a version of her mat without scar, possibly adding makeup options, possibly dealing with the swords that load without materials, etc. (I wish the update to Underbelly's vest had been a completely separate item. The original vest had his shape burned in, but dForced perfectly; the new version has layered geometry and just explodes if you try. But I digress.)

    One thing that won't be addressed, and which annoys the snot out of me with this type of character, is that according to her product page, she appears to be a one-piece single morph. If you want to use her head in combination for another character, her body comes along for the ride, or vice versa.

    The parts of her bundles that interest me most ar the vegetation and the lights. (And that is an impressively random set of lights to include with this bundle.) Somehow, I actually have all the previously released clothes, I guess because they were mostly parts of other bundles.

    Basically, buying the bundle, after initial outlay and refund, would give me a small price break on the parts of it I actually want. (And yes, that entire purchase/store-credit-refund process makes the most sense if you'd be paying for the bundle through store credit in the first place.)

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191
    edited August 2020
    I don't get it - we ask for Rune, but Daz gives us a slim gal with no visible muscle tone and a goofy face instead. She looks more like a clumsy alchemist that tripped and fell on her own sword than a battle-scarred warrior. 

    You're making a dizzying number of faulty assumptions here.

    edit: ...wait, aren't you that guy?

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  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 1,217

    Is it just me or is that Tara Outfit not dForce ready?

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    The outfit is gorgeous in parts...I don't go for the whole no pants thing...but I still want it for kitbashing. Funny tho...parts are very similar to Sabriel by Mada - 

    https://www.daz3d.com/sabriel-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    And just like Underbelly, it's a shame she doesn't translate to Daz-land as nicely as the original. 

    The outfit has shorts with garters hanging down. The dress covers the shorts pretty completely. As I was adding the items to the figure, I was thinking the dress could fit over leggings or a pair of longer leather pants maybe, or a long skirt? Have to experiment.

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