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A new character, with materials using the new skin shader
personally i gonna wait til a characteeer comes out i cant resist. like an ultimate faerie queen or elf princess.
The reply was in reference to getting the free elements - Genesis 8.1 Female etc.
That's actually the scariest thing I've heard yet. "Really Cool stuff" that is undocumented is going to cause third party tool developers no end of grief.
lol, I don't see the problem here. I mean I really don't (aside from the new Vicky bundle, which is definitely kinda poo if you ask me (just the bundle mind you, I like the girl herself)) but this didn't break or make anything you already have junk overnight. If it was good yesterday it's still good today. You don't have to reinvest in a whole new figure, all your old stuff still works (aside from the fancy girly bits I bought from the darker site for daz stuff, but knowing Meipe there will be a fix for the script soon enough, ( oh and expressions, which the whole point of the newish figure is to improve those, so I get it)).
Daz isn't selling you the new base figure, you get it free. Don't want it? Don't get it, problem solved.
I'm not White Knighting them here either, I have a lot of issues with the way they've been doing things lately, as a lot of people do, but this one I don't take offense to, and don't really see why there's so many up in arms over it. I mean, I suppose if you actually had to buy all you old figures over again then that would be quite shady, but you don't; they work just fine. Sure there's a new Vicky, but she's most definitely NOT Victoria 8. Just like Victoria 8 wasn't Victoria 7, or 6, or ext..
I made her flap her chops
She is great. Thank you, DAZ.
I have a full body picture (beware of nudity) and a portrait over at DeviantArt (alien-area)
You know. *drags out a small soap box* Each figure they roll out there is a strong emphasis on some kind of realism. Way back in V3 days, the eyes were always weird and I don't think were addressed until V4. Then there was a head pounding time trying to get the skin to look as real as possible, to make that 2d skin appear 3d-real. Merchants worked hard with each new model. Took a while for the eyes to catch up but we're about there, some merchants got it, others need help. So with the release of 8.1, tweeking the need to make Vic smile look more like a smile as one reason for rolling out 8.1. So why after all these years, hasn't there been an improvement on tats? Today it seems there is a huge need for female figures to be covered in tattoos, then slap a $25 price tag on the model and put it in the market . If you're doing to do that, can you please take the time to make the tattoo appear real instead of it looking like some childs temp tats they got out of a cracker jack box. All the tats I see on these models are super low 2d, there is no life or vibrance in them. We take the time to make the skin appear real and then destroy that effort with an ultra flat tattoo over 3/4 of the body. Please research how real tattoos look on real skin, the shading, how dimensional they look, a 3d image on a 3d figure.
Nope. Not at all.
Ha! I've been sat here for 3 hours trying to forensically determine the difference between renders .. doh!
cute. can you make her more faerie looking?
I think that the vellus hair should be included in the Victoria 8.1 set similar to the anatomical elements.
It's free, just like all base genesis figures.
Hopefully Skinbuilder can be made to work with all the anatomies (though i'd understand if it would need to be sold as an add on, as it would need new textures and other things)!
According to the marketing it should be included with the basic Gensis 8.1 female. So hopefully either they'll fix the marketing or the products~!
Only "gripe" I'll offer.
I just want the base figure, not the universiy bundle, is that not possible?? (Clicking the base figure just sends me back to the start page)
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1
Try that.
So 8.1 base is excactly the same as I can tell as the g8 that is why it is not g9. The HR is much more detailed so we can expect some new morphs comming from the PAs soon.
EDIT: So the subvision by default on the G8.1 is set higher than the G8 that is why the detail is higher when I brougt it into Blender, should have checked that first.
I was thinking the same thing. The 8.1 Victoria is nice, but I don't see any earth-shattering realism in the promo images. It doesn't seem like that big of a jump to me, but maybe we will see some artists make some really great promos with new 8.1 figures.
I just finished completing all my purchases for all the Genesis 8 content I had been waiting so long to buy. So I can't afford to buy new figures and content at this stage. In a way I'm glad it's just a .1 update, and not a completely new jump to a new version number, or I would be really beside myself at this point.
As long as they are making improvements at DAZ3D it's a good thing. Poser was not as well-supported or as fortunate.
"Added support to leverage MicroSkin tiling micro normal maps from our partners at Texturing.xyz"
I was excited about this, that we could get really sharp tiling textures, and save resources, but I can't find anything from the essentials for 8.1 since new base 8.1 doesn't even have normal maps. All the material zones in new UV map still seem like a big blobs ( and now there's 1 more so even more resource heavy ), and I can't see any way to blend in different micro normals. I don't really understand how this new feature/support is working? I haven't bought anything, so anybody with the new stuff can confirm if there's actually any smart support for those micro normal maps in case it's behind paywall? And I don't mean tiling single normal map with image editor, since as far as I know, I think we could do that already.
Also, I noticed some of my HD expressions are missing for G8.1. At least Afraid HD, Angry HD, Flirting HD, Frown HD, Shock HD, Smile Full Face HD, Smile Open Full Face HD and Surprise HD are missing ( they are still there for G8F ) or at least not visible in expressions tab, and PowerPose face controls don't work for her either, and this new face control rig crashes Daz Studio every time.
Based on this good news I went to try LIE. This is literally the first one I tried. Aisling Torso Tattoo. Take a look at the neck. Are you getting different results?
Yes, it is for me too. I just wonder if Victoria 8.1 has this vellus hair system included or one need to buy:
https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1-university-bundle
to get it?
i not seeing 8.1 starter essentials in my product library. i see the 8
but i am visually impaired.
I'm getting the same results. It seems that LIE applied to the "Torso surface" for G8 will apply to both "Head" and "Body" surfaces when using G8.1. The solution would be to manually get rid of the LIE in the "Head" surface.
Those seem to be in a different cetegory now. Under "expressions 8.1" rather than "expressions" and without the "HD" after (so it's "Afraid", rather than "Afraid HD", though the actual morphs seem identical)..
The Power pose head controls don't seem to work, and the control rig crashes for me too, so hopefully they'll fix it...
Will any of these product updates appearing in DIM have any adverse impact on my existing library of Genesis 8 figures and content?
are you sure that you exported with the same subd in the viewport. If the base is the same, then there should be no difference
There is so much negativity on this thread it is difficult to judge what is going on. So here we have
- Studio 4.15
- 8.1 base figure
- BJ Noemi Morphs
- BJ Noemi skin
- OOT hair (chosen to keep the face clear)
So I can use G8 as before, and I can use G8 content on G8.1 should I choose. If I use G8.1 as a base I get the new expression stuff, and I can use the Face Control interface. Which is cool. The only thing to note is the new eyelashes, which are a little OTT, but I could have removed them and used the Noemi set instead.
All this is orthogonal to the decision of whether or not to purchase Victoria 8.1 and the other items. The figure is okay, the other items are weak.
So my interpretation of the new changes is "small earthquake, not many dead"