The We Will Miss You, Chohole Complaint Thread
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doh havent started vacuumin yet. will feel better if i do. clear te dust. is a allergen weather
think what i need is motivation, like new curtains. is a bit too hot to go out shopping Feels Like88°
tempted to try a stuffed cabbage stew from scartch/ boiling cabbage is what the neighbors want to smell cooking. lol
Huh?
I definitely have some questions about that image, but maybe not the same ones as you.
Looks pretty realistic, which DAZ assets did you use?
Some posts just deserve to be answered in a single post so that I can maintain focus from beginning to end!
So is the venerable Fritos chip! Not as healthy, but it holds up very well with everything, including but not limited to: Dressings and dips. Bleu Cheese dressing (listed by itself because it MUST be food from Heaven itself, but only if it's the good kind, not the oily, plastlicy kind!), cheese by itself, Bleu cheese by itself, small slivers of smoked salmon, salsa, cream of mushroom or cream of broccoli soup, anything you'd put on/in Sushi or Sashimi, anything you'd put on or in a taco, and anything you'd stuff inside a Chicken Cordon Bleu, a stuffed pepper, or a baked potato including the pepper AND the potato!
And then there's the coup de grace: dipped in a great bowl of CHILI! I do believe it all started with chili, which God made on Day 8...and thunder, which was first made on day 9; you know, after all the Hosts of Heaven had sampled the new Chili on Fritos dish, probably served with grated cheese on top.
I'm sure those particular Dead Sea Scrolls were just lost in the eddies of time.
Pass. But thanks for thinking of our teeth!
I can't eat cornbread, no matter how often I try it and no matter who makes it with their grandma's ancient recipe. It's like only the worst parts of corn and bread, two things in this world that I love, are made into cornbread!
Yeah, but it's not yesterday anymore. It's a day later.
I know, I know, but you're no different than anybody else. All of THEM also like to claim that they don't need to shower every day. And their poop doesn't stink either.
But...how do I put this as delicately as possible? I know, I know...
"For best results, wash your vessel every day. It will keep barnacles from growing on the hull and causing fit, finish, and structural problems in future voyages, and will ensure that your journey in this voyage is as pleasant as possible for you AND for your fellow travelers."
I'm with you on that.
Hey, did you know, you can make your own bacon bowls? It's true, it's true! I wonder, would it rip a hole in the space-time continuum if I make a bacon bowl, then cooked a baked potato with bacon bits and served it all INSIDE the bacon bowl? Would that be named the new manna or would it be one of the signs of the End of Times?
I say open all the windows. And if they complain, promise them you'll bake some pumpkins and cook some liver first thing in the morning!
Come back to the forums to see about one of the mods passing away, terribly sad :(
Also hello. Messing around with a new plugin in Cinema4D, and trying to stave off all the "Cinema 4D's gonna die this year, what a mess" talk I keep seeing. Been seeing that crop up every year or so since like R12 and R13 though, still waiting on the results. But since I'm just a hobbyist, I guess my interpretation of programs is different than those who use them professionally.... Still don't have any interest in moving to Blender though, and the day I'm unable to use C4D is the day I hang up 3D for good and focus all my efforts on improving my drawing skills.
Have a raptor in a shower. <Edit> uploading a static since I guess the GIF doesn't want to play ;A;
I worked at a major specialty retail store for 9 years, and the whole time, customers would occasionally remark about how the company was supposedly just about to go under. I haven't been there for three years, but they definitely still exist.
People love their Doom and Gloom I guess :/
It's funny though, how I keep hearing that Cinema4D offering a subscription model was going to kill their business, but that was some years back and heck I wouldn't even HAVE the program right now if it wasn't for that subscription. Would still be stuck on the nigh ancient R13 Visualize. Heard the same thing about Photoshop too, but it's still around.
Though I totally understand the preference for perpetual over subscription when it's offered.
The Daz 5 development thread is a perfect example of what could be called "doom telephone", where person A assumes the worst based on the information they're given, then person B reads person A's post and assumes the worst based on that, and that's how "we'll be releasing the optional pre-beta, which adds support for Big Sur and M1 Macs, with other new features announced as they're developed" turns into "you mean I won't be able to use pre-Genesis figures any more?!".
LMAO that's exactly how that thread is progressing, so many assumptions and extremely few actual facts.
...mmm...bacon wrapped in bacon served in a bowl made of bacon.
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my grandmum used to cook both cabbage and liver. Got used to it.
Now cooking Lutefisk...that should be considered bio warfare.
Yeah, some of us sensed that something was wrong because we weren't seeing her usual level of activity and participation in topics that she would have jumped in on. What can you do but hope it's just a temporary thing, especially if you live half the world away?
I just attended a service to celebrate a friend and co-worker who passed away recently. It's sad but great to see how people band together in community and family spirit.
Well, there HAVE been big losses in the modelling and 3D product areas. Remember Softimage? Remember TrueSpace?
It takes TIME to learn a new software program. And time is the thing that each of us has the least of. Even for the poorest among us, time may be the one thing that is most limited. First off, each of us only has 24 hours in a day. And almost none of us is precient enough to know how many days we have, or even what physical or mental skills challenges may present themselves during those remaining days.
So naturally people will always be nervous whenever they think a company is messing up to the point where it may fail and have to close their doors or divest all of their assets and Intellectual Property. This is never a "good" thing to individual users and customers. How many times do YOU want to learn a new 3D modelling tool (or photo editing tool, or a new home theater interface, or a new prescription warning label)? How many times do you think you will need to do that in your remaining days?
And THAT is why Blender is so popular. It's supported and maintained by people who use it, people who make money with it, and by people who love it and have a vested interest in keeping it going. As FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) under the care of those most motivated by having it remain healthy and current, it may actually be the least-risky choice for many.
When was the last time we saw a Bryce update, hmmm? Blender's not likely to go into development purgatory. There are no bean-counters telling the governing body that they need to eliminate this feature or that API because it's too costly to maintain.
But we do love DAZ, yes we do, especially with the vast library of assets available. But risk is super high with any privately held company. So yeah, we get nervous if a company is doing things that might be damaging their revenue (the money that comes in) or their earnings (the money that a company keeps after all taxes, payroll, tools they use, buildings they own and pay a mortgage, rent, repairs, and/or property taxes on).
If it's a publicly traded company (meaning traded in the stock market), there are some very advanced tools available to the average investor like myself. The bankruptcies of many companies were indeed properly called months and even YEARS before they happened. By amatures such as myself! How? Because as an investor, I can tell a lot of things about a company just using some basic charting software. Charting software tells me a vibrant story; far more than just the stock price on a graph. The most robust tools will show and even allow me to search on critical business fundamentals (past AND present), such as those revenue and earnings figures I mentioned in the prior paragraph.
The General Motors fall from grace, KMart and Sears, Borders Books, these are just a few of the spectacular downfalls that were correctly called by investing professionals and amateurs (and sometimes the amateurs are better at it than the pros!), and that's because any schmoe like me can research those companies' profit and loss, income, debt, and other key fundamentals just by having a subscription to one financial newspaper. And any schmoe like me can actually READ those financial statements usually by just going to that publicly traded company's "investors" page on their website. It's not hard. What shocks me is that SO FEW OF US actually take the time to get good at investing. And this is why I got rid of television a few years back; so that I could be doing more important things instead of vegging out for hours each night, letting my mind and spirit atrophy day by day.
Finding out information about privately owned companies, say DAZ 3D or its parent, that's a lot more difficult. This is because the reporting and disclosure requirements are not nearly as strict or stringent for privately held companies. And that raises risk. Not just risk in investing (I wouldn't even know if somebody COULD invest in DAZ 3D; I suspect not easily or not at all). No, it also raises risk for those who are using the tools; say for example if you had a company with artists on staff who produced their content by way of a 3D tool.
Before I lease or buy a 50 seat license, I'm going to check out the company first. We all know Microsoft and Apple. But we DON'T know Corel, DAZ, or Bentley Systems. Will I pay tens of thousands of dollars for Vue licenses, and then just have them go nearly a year with a "we'll be back soon" page on their site, making my technical, artistic, and office staff send emails back and forth for product and license support? Yet that's precisely what happened.
Do people get nervous about Cinema 4D? If they're not, maybe they should be.
So why not start improving your drawing skills NOW? You can still use the software until it goes away, if it ever does. But developing your hand/eye/brain skills now would never be a bad idea. And it could even help you get better on the C4D side, too.
Nice image!
There are a number of things that make a person think a company could/might/will go under. Ignoring and abandoning the Intellectual Property library is one of mine. A properly-run company should have a defined lifecycle for everything, and although they don't need to disclose all of their plans to every schmoe out there like me, there is always a point at which this IS the right and decent thing to do on a product-by-product or case-by-case basis. Which is why I harp so badly on DAZ about Carrara, Bryce, and Hexagon.
Another thing that can hurt a company is an overreliance on subscriptions. "Old media" (newspapers, magazines, cable, and satellite TV, for example) are all hurting badly right now due to a rapid and SUSTAINED loss of subscribers. Software companies love subscriptions right now, but that's only because that trend is on the upswing for software and streaming.
But here's a little bit of wisdom I learned from all that stock market knowledge: Once everybody's already a member, what is left for people to do?
Yes, leave. That's it. They leave. For any number of reasons. Maybe they found a bright new and brash competitor, with a bigger, better, faster, more connected, less-fussy version of that old product we've been leasing for years without question. Or maybe they're cleaining up their personal or company finances, looking for process improvement opportunities, eliminating clutter that they no longer need or use.
Or that company (nay, the whole INDUSTRY) no longer provides what the customer wants and needs from the relationship. Like me and TV, for example. It was actually REALITY TV that started me to question why I was paying money for cable.
Then one day, when I paid that bill, I realized that it was $150 per month, or $1800 per year. That right there could make a new, young investor a millionaire by the time they were in their mid-to-late 50s, and here I am paying it to people who don't really even like me? 'Cause really, if they liked me, would they REALLY push shows like "Bridezillas" on me?
One subscription all by its lonesome is never really the problem.
But one day, when you realize that your month is outlasting your money, whether you're an individual or a finance person in a company, you'll start looking at EVERYTHING. And if you're in debt and you have that warrior's heart for getting OUT of debt, believe me, you'll make those cuts. To the bone and beyond. My $150 cable TV bill was one of those, and my $60 land-line phone was another. After amputating those two bills, I also stopped several software and media subscriptions, and I'm usually a lot slower to renew those very expensive ones, such as for the stock charting software I mentioned above.
Eventually, everybody cuts their subscriptions. Or they die and the funding runs out on the accounts those subscriptions are drawn on. Not even the 800 pound gorilla (Adobe) can escape this.
I've said it many times, subscriptions are evil.
Not evil just because I don't like them. Evil because they hide from view and we need to use the disinfection of sunlight to reveal them, as well as that "warrior's heart" to actually make the call or press the button that eliminates them.
Oh, by the way, "bundles" are also evil. Not DAZ 3D bundles, those are usually pretty good deals. But phone, internet, and TV bundles? expensive. Contrary to advertizing, bundles are almost always more expensive than just having one broadband internet connection, and THAT makes them evil!
You're right, "doom telephone" is a thing. But can you really blame us? Going back to a point I made earlier, we're only human and we don't know how much time we really have left. And most of us have limited funds and limited time during which we can make more.
Oh, but I'm excited about M1/M2 Macs. They do more work and generate less heat than anything else out there. Besides that, occasionally, we NEED a little bit of creative destruction in every marketplace. Or we'd still be drawing hieroglyphics on cave walls, and by today there wouldn't be any blank cave walls left anywhere in the world!
Manna from Heaven itself, I tell you!
Too big of a post to properly quote so I'll just say that I have been working on my drawing bit by bit, the one thing I haven't been doing is working with 3DCoat/zBrush as much as I should be.
A few of my friends are fairly quiet for long periods of time, makes me easily concerned - particularly one who's picked up the habit of dropping off the internet for months if a year at a time (Has done several 8+ month absences already...) and that REALLY concerns me. How would I know if something happened??
Recently picked up X-Particles for Cinema 4D though and my entire focus has been centered entirely around that the past few days. Though it's been as much fun as it is frustrating haha. Really into the Fluids part of it right now, but been wanting to give the shattering destructive stuff a go later as well. Breaking stuff is even more fun than scattering objects around and watching them tumble down stairs!
Scattering objects... I could have just used the "Randomize" tool for this or MoGraph + a Random Effector, but I *had* to use Rigid dynamics to make them go plop onto the ground and roll about until I liked their positioning. It's just that much fun!
I loved liver as a kid, but that's probably because I needed the iron or whatever else was in it. And mom only made it maybe once a month. I don't remember cabbage stinking, but I do remember how good it was with ground beef inside it. Today, I sometimes make stuffed peppers, and oh wow, THAT'S delicious. I've been using ground beef, chopped onions and carrots, and rice all mixed up for the stuffing. I even bought a special pan that could withstand 10-15 minutes under the broiler, just for that stuffed pepper dish! It makes the house smell wonderful, especially in the autumn or winter. And yes, we do have seasons in Florida; you just have to be paying attention!
@Rezca I'm not an expert with X-Particles, but I have spent quite a lot of time experimenting with it, and may be able to give you some pointers if you need it.
Good eye and great image!
Yeah, I probably should have broken up that post. Sorry about that. I'm super passionate about eliminating debt and saving/investing for the future, and I tend to run on about those topics. But there's really no freedom and peace like that which you can make for yourself if you apply your focus and attention to the important things. Someday, I might put some links into my signature for folks...but mostly people are not here for that stuff anyway.
I have my own opinions on the matter too, and it's part of why I never picked Vue up again and opted for Redshift/Cycles4D over Vray despite using it for years. Also why I saved up for my new desktop the hard way instead of giving in to one of those credit offers they had - Credit's a very slippery slope and one I don't trust myself to tread.
And thanks~ Playing with dynamics is so much fun.
I'm still going over some of the resources on GSG-U, HelloLuxx, and INSYDIUM's own website, but I'd definitely be open to asking for advice here too :>
Getting a container to fill with fluid took more time to figure out than I'd have expected, and working out why turning on Motion Blur in Redshift was causing so many problems took a little thinking as well....
Looking around to find info on rendering the Explosia stuff with Redshift right now. Found a couple that were out of date - Saying that Redshift can't render X-Particles' fire/smoke sims unless you export as VDB and re-import them. I can add a Volume Shader to it and get smoke to show, but still going to want more info to glean over here. First time using and whatnot!
...ah yes broadband bundles. I loathe those and stay away from them. When I changed my ISP (as the one I was with had reliability issues) the only choice was to go with one of the major ones as that's about all which is available where I live. I researched all their offerings and in spite of the hard sell to stick me into the full package with 4 wireless phone lines (I live alone), hundreds of channels of crap (I don't have a television and for the last 18 years don't really miss it), I insisted all I wanted was 100 MBPS download speed. Finally, that is what I got.
I also have inexpensive phone plan (that has a monthly minute limit) from a different provider than my ISP. Oh the ISP often tries to woo me into extra services with special "free" promotions but I'm wise to that game as the "free" part of the offer often ends with no warning and suddenly your monthly bill goes from 45$ to something like 80$. I'm fine with my connect speed, it isn't "super blazing fast" 1 gigabit or whatever but good enough to download purchases and freebies.
I'll stick with Daz as long as it's around, most likely staying with the 4.xx track as all my plugins and scripts work and it does what I need. Unless 5 has some real "game changing" features I would actually use (like multiple collision targets or rendering outside of the programme like Reality/Lux would let you do) interest level right now is pretty "meh".
I have Blender but am primarily using it to learn modelling and UV mapping as most of the Daz resource plugins and content I use for character creation does not translate well.. So not interested in using it for scene/character design, or rendering as the latter requires converting materials.
Until Daz can handle large scale environments (which I sincerely doubt will happen) I will continue to use Carrara as well. Now that is a bridge I and others would like to see.
My boyfriend used to have two wireless phone lines because of pressure of a salesman.
when I was trying to get anew phone, I was pressured into getting an iPhone 12. I don't want an iPhone 12! After some conversations and convincing I got an SE 2020. I'm happy with it so far.
I did accidentally buy a pro set of air pods but I wanted the "free" ones with air iPad. When those pro earbuds come in, I'm thinking of returning them for regular ones.
Non-complaints: Wheee..., a new goal has been met. This morning my scales read under 220 pounds for the first time in many many years.
First, 12 years ago I was a bodybuilder and 220# was a good thing. (Hot I was.
) Then age, unemployment, retirement, poverty, joint pains, heart trouble, breathing problems, conspired and left me just barely under 250# where I freaked and resolved to never get there again. Since then I've been slowly backing down the scale. I hovered in the 240s for a while then the 30s, then the 20s, and now for the first time I see sunlight under 220# (even before emptying myself).
Yes, weight bounces up & down every day, but I've been keeping a graph of each daily result measured before breakfast and there is a clear negative slope. However, doctor says I have at least 30 pounds to go.
'Nother non-complaint: Wheee..., my baby-bear machine now has its first set of grown up clothes. I spent all day yesterday replacing the hodgepodge of case fans with three matched RGB ring light fans (~$30), a new CPU cooler (~$40) that's capable of handling any future CPU I might someday install. And I lucked into a deal for the cooler that gives me $15 back on a limited VISA credit card bringing the cost down to $25.
Finally, I dug into my box of used hard drives and found a 500GB WesternDigital "Black" and added it to a similar one in the drive cage. Which meant another cable to be routed and power to be found. Eventally, all successful. Wheee... 
Case Fans: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V32FKVT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
CPU Cooler: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H25DYM3?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details (Sorry, but I can't get this link to work.
It's a "CoolerMaster 212 Black")
USB2 4-port backpanel: A backpanel insert to plug into the unused 4 USB2 port headers on the motherboard.
USB3.0 4-port daughter card: A PCIe card to occupy the last available motherboard slot and provide 4 more USB3.0 ports at the back.
Complaint: However, replacing the fans turned out to be the major time sink in this referb. In order to remove one of the two front fans (simple 2-wire, single speed, cheap, noisy) that came with the case I had to remove the hard disk cage which of course meant scooching all those wires at the back out of the way. Then the new fans had RGB so that involved an extra connection and more RGB cables to fit into the case.
Also, the two old 2-pin, single-speed, front case fans got their power directly from the power supply but the new fans are 4-pin PWM and required that I rummage in my boxes for a while until I found a proper 4-pin fan spitter cable to link them to the motherboard's front fan header. While I had my elbows deep in the guts of the machine I also attempted a better job at cable managing. Looks half way civilized now.
Also, replacing the old cooler (stock AMD cooler) wasn't trivial. After I finally interpreted the assembly heiroglyphics I was finally able to get all the new parts in all the right places. During the process I learned how much thermal paste is too much. Last time I put the old cooler on the machine I thought that I might have used a little too much thermal paste. Yep, once I got the cooler off I could see that some of the paste had squooshed over the edge of the CPU shell and globbed onto the upper edge of the pin base. Careful use of Q-Tips & alcohol resolved the problem.
I didn't use quite so much thermal paste this time.
Final Complaint (today): In the process of poking around in the machine and reading the motherboard manual I finally noticed that the PCI-e technology on that board is only level 2. Not 3.
That's OK. I never intended this machine to be a race horse. More of a plow ox, when fully grown.
My weight has slowly been going up, but because of meds. The pain meds I'm on make me gain weight and bloating. The pain clinic was told this is a reaction I have to the meds yet less they put me on it anyway. For the longest time I was 205# # and now I'm pushing 260#. They finally took the med out of my pain pump and within a month I lost 45#. They then decided to put me on a derivative of that same pain med. Guess what? I gained all the weight back. They finally just took me off of that one and put another in the pump so I'm hoping I can lose the weight again.
I have much of the same problems. Age (not that old but at the age that is becomes harder and harder to lose weight), disability, poverty, ostio arthritis in all my joints but 2, breathing problems (complex sleep apnea, oxygen deprivation and severe COPD from 25 yrs of smoking (quit cigs 7 yrs ago but vape now but almost down to 0 nicotine so almost there), diabetes, degenerative disc in my back, bulged disc, 6 back surgeries and there's more I just can't think of all of them atm. I eat right since becoming a diabetic and getting a gym membership next month to start working out again. We have a planet fitness here in town and they are a cheap place to go and they have a ton of equipment. Most gym memberships in my area are around $60 a month and at Planet Fitness it's only $10 or $22 depending which plan you want.
I gave away the rest of my crystal lite tea mix as I ordered a big loose leaf tea order. I rather use my tea maker wand stevia instead of powder tea anyway.
I made a smoothie and I thought that all the carrots got blended well but I just found some pieces that wasn't fully blended and still crunchy,
I like bananas and so do my goldfish.
Dinos after the pizza. rescue the pizza!!