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Bought both Mariachi and White Tie outfits some time ago. I really. really wish for quality mal clothing. The tube-like ones - no. Quality I buy. D-force isn't the best version of male clothing, definitely not.
I make book covers with DAZ people. Book covers for romance. So both the male and the female need to have believable-looking clothing.
I was about to buy that, I may still, but that would require me learning how to texture things myself. The outfit looks good, and the price is good, but one thing just makes me not able to use it. I make Chain mail myself and the way that is textured the links are falling the wrong way the links are all close together and gravity is not pulling them open, and it would not be as flexible or protective as if they fell the proper way. I just can't use something I know is wrong. it's like a Ford Mustang with Chevy and Impala emblems on it. (This is not just you, so please don't think I am singling you out to rag on you about this, I have mentioned this before several times and I always get the answer they don't really care and this line... "well learn how to texture and do it yourself" If Chainmail was made to fall properly I would have bought a lot more outfits that use chainmail in them both male and female.
My main problem with chain mal is that every single time someone textures it, they texture it with the links falling THE WRONG WAY.
dzheng come back because I purchased all the M4/Genesis clothing in 2017.
I think when an artist is talented and creative the risk is lower, the customers support him/her in long term.
BTW, men don't wear ballet toe shoes, do they (since they don't dance on their toes - only females do)?
Men do wear ballet shoes. They don't wear ballet pointe shoes.
Men don't need many hairs, the younger ones have the "Potty" style and older ones with varying states of baldnes, just cut the excess so that it doesn't hinder sight or hearing.
Textures and styling morphs, or at least more variety. I'd pay quite a bit more for products with styling morphs. I don't need a dozen of the same paper-thin shirt with all of the details on the maps, that rely entirely on dForce to get wrinkles and drape and never look right for the material or even the garment they're supposed to be. I need a single, high quality conforming version of that shirt with modeled details, material zones, and options beyond "expand arms" and "widen bum" that would let me style it for different characters and situations, and use the expensive fabric shaders I already own. A turned up sleeve or collar, an unbuttoned cuff. That can make so much difference, and the amount of care taken will make me far more likely to buy more from the same PA.
What I really need most of all right now is a basic button-up shirt for G8M that's tucked into a pair of trousers and has a popped collar with the top two or three buttons undone. It'd be nice to have something with morphs for sleeves down so that it could be layered under jackets, v-necks, etc., and with them rolled up to the elbows, but honestly I'd take either one at this point.
Can't find it. I'd take something for an earlier generation if it converted well (G3M preferably, I've had issues with collar deformation in G2M stuff), but I can't find a single thing in my library and I've browsed through every male outfit on the site it seems with no luck. The closest I've seen is the Montana Outfit for G3M, but the popped collar is really non-negotiable here and it doesn't have one. The one thing I saw that does have one is buttoned to the very top and designed specifically for use under a vest.
If I've just overlooked something (here, there, anywhere), I happily invite someone to point it out. I genuinely want to know so that I can go buy the thing.
Contemporary, real-world men may largely have a few wardrobe staples that they stick to, but there are so many different ways those staples can be styled, media devoted to how to style them for different body types and aesthetics... and yet largely the same ones seem to keep showing up here on repeat. It's fine when a PA creates something that's a significant quality upgrade and I'll happily buy it if it's useful to me (e.g. I'd get a good sweater but would not buy a polo), but it rarely seems to be.
I love DZheng's products, and I have great respect for his skills, but it's nearly impossible to make a living in the United States at that store. Maybe that is possible for the top 10 or so of their artists, but my income when I was full time there, able to stay in their top 30 for sales, and had a big catalog, topped out at under $2000 a month before taxes.
The cost of living in the United States for a single person averages around $2800.
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/country/united-states
I was only able to survive on that for any length because my parents let me live with them while I was building up my store and improving my skills to the point of being able to sell at Daz3d. I started paying them rent when I could afford it, and eventually was able to get a good used car and start paying a mortgage as I am now. But that was possible because of Daz, not the other site. And selling at Daz long-term and full-time requires making careful product choices, which I've already gone on about at length.
I agree with Sickleyield, and going to add that besides paying rent or a mortgage - to make content you need a decent computer and a lot of software. These days Blender is popular and free (as opposed to Maya or Modo so I'm keeping it separate), but if you want to do serious creation you also need to purchase ZBrush (one time purchase for now), Marvelous Designer, Substance Designer, Photoshop - all subscription these days. That adds up to a fair amount of money per month. Then you need to spend the time to learn how to use it properly which is a considerable time investment.
Great suggestions, I have not made a popped collar up to now so will keep that in mind :)
It might be an either/or job because of the JCMs in the neck - I suspect it will be hard to make it work with both popped and lying flat and still working when you bend and twist the neck.
Some nice male clothes are on sale in the Fastgrab section of the Daz store.
And that really depends on where in the country one is...here in Connecticut, once things like rent and food costs come out, that's just not do-able if one wants to live on their own (without family or government assistance).
dzheng has been doing things for G8 over at Renderosity for some time now; I don't think he ever had anything in this store.
I forgot the artists live in US.
The cost of living in Europe is between $900 and $1200 and in Asia it's lower.
I know they wear ballet shoes, I just wasn't aware they wore pointe shoes (toe shoes) like the new outfit released yesterday (at least they LOOK like the shoes with the block in the toe that the ladies wear). The shoes on that outfit look awkward and clubby, but what I would expect of most mens clothing that comes out here nowdays.
..yeah I'd be at the high point of that range on my Social Security income were I in Europe. Here I'm below the poverty line.and my rent (in what is classified as a "low income" housing unit) is about half my monthly income. .
Also costs differ widely depending on where you live in the States.. Here on the West coast (Portland OR) that 2,800$ won't go very far when the median rent for a 1 BR flat is 1,500$ That would make your rent about 54% of your monthly income before taxes and other deductions. The recommended rental impact on monthly income should be 33% - 35%
Damn I am glad I live in Australia, specificaly the crummy northern suburbs of Adelaide
my income now is 1200 a month but of course I own my house, the rent otherwise would be all my income
I have no idea what the cost of living is here
I'm just a few hours north of you, and I live in a 3br 2ba house that's $1850 a month. "The West Coast" is more than just Portland.
On cost of living in the US and viability of PA revenues, it varies a lot from place to place. Rents are much higher in big cities like San Francisco, New York, Boston, Los Angeles and in fast growing cities. Rents are much lower in many other cities, like Little Rock, Arkansas (where I live). See attached screengrabs for each city. The Department of Housing and Urban Development calculates what is labeled 'fair market rents' for various cities as part of several programs that require reimbursements and that sort of thing. The term 'fair' is not being used in some moral sense; it just refers to a survey of the distribution of local market rents. If you are in the US, you can find your region here. https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr/fmrs/FY2022_code/select_Geography.odn
Compare the HUD Fair Market Rent for San Francisco County in California to the same for Pulaski County (Little Rock) in Arkansas, and compare those to Portland, OR. See attached. Of course, housing costs are just one cost. Food, medical, taxes, etc vary from place to place as well. It takes a much higher rate of return or wage to live in San Francisco than it does to live in Portland, and both of those are more expensive than living in Little Rock.
Like any other business that does not rely on the local geographic area for its revenues, a Daz3D Published Artist is more viable in low cost areas - of which there are many. Many parts of upstate New York are even cheaper than Little Rock; just don't live in Manhattan.
Depends where in Europe in some areas it is much higher. I can't live on $1200.
BTW, these relative costs of living vary over time because of migration. An informal migration indicator is the 'one way UHaul' index. If more people are moving out than moving in, then the UHaul equipment in the area will be drained. If more people are moving in than moving out, then there will be a glut of UHaul equipment. So a couple versions of the one way UHaul index are to look at either the ratio of the number of booked one-way trips between cities or to look at the relative cost of renting a UHaul one way between the cities in one direction versus the other direction. According to that first method, by state, people seem to be moving to Tennessee, Florida, and Texas while they are moving away from California, Illinois, and New Jersey. See https://www.uhaul.com/Articles/About/2020-Migration-Trends-U-Haul-Ranks-50-States-By-Migration-Growth-22746/ ; So, even though there is general inflation, and even though rents are rising generally, the HUD fair market rent for San Francisco actually declined (see screengrab in my post above) as people are moving out. A migration measure based on the second method can be found here. ( https://marteleric.com/UMI/ ). A positive number means 'one-way UHaul' prices between city pairs imply people are leaving. People are on net leaving San Jose and Oakland, for example. Some context can be found here. https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesrealestatecouncil/2020/12/01/are-people-really-moving-out-of-cities-due-to-the-pandemic/?sh=6772c44a6279
Note - the One-Way Uhaul index is just one measure and it is not a reprentative sample of movers. However, the index has a large sample and has been around for a long time and can be a useful real-time proxy for migration trends between more formal surveys and between each Census.
Regional costs and trends may be worth considering if a PA is planning to rely only on income from Daz/Poser etc content sales. If SY's experience is general, then there are many places in the US that a talented full time PA can live a middle-class life, but expensive areas should probably be avoided if possible.
Yea I'm going to pass on that :) If I have to move to a small town away from family to be able to make a living then its more viable to find another job. Lucky for me Daz does make it possible for me to live in a large city doing exactly what I'm doing now. Making the right marketing decisions is essential for success.
Yay. Happy for you. Everyone should live where they want.
NOTE - on the whole 'more male content' discussion, I am a longtime participant and encourage more male content, especially historical/cultural references and uniforms suitable for 'Hollywoodized' history stories. Doesn't have to be actually historically accurate, just suitable for entertainment. I even started a thread on creating more male content.
Personally, I want more morphs and texture sets for supporting / character actors. I want the dumpy best friend, the boozing uncle, the wisecracking elder female mentor, the young teen whose growth spurt has made temporarily lanky and awkward and out of proportion, the annoying teacher (sorry teachers - but from a kids point of view), the short fat singing traveling salesman, etc, etc, etc - in other words, neither handsome males with square jaws and smoldering eyebrows nor glamorous females with defined cheekbones and unblemished skin.
I want more Thelma Ritters, SZ Sakalls, and Jaleel Whites.
Dare I say I want more supporting characters BEFORE anyone else gets more male clothing? Of course not. Yet, the premise is repeated in threads like this that not only should there be more male clothing but that the wants and desires of people who want 'leading ladies' or in my case 'supporting cast' should take a back seat or 'the problem' isn't solved. Um, no. 'The problem' is different for each of us. My problem is too many Denzel Washingtons and not enough Jaleel Whites. I can cope with the variety of jeans, sports coats, and business suits. My problem is too many Ava Gardners and not enough Jane Darwells. There are not too many Jane Darwells (mom in Grapes of Wrath) relative to SZ Sakalls (Dutch waiter in Casablanca).
But I recognize that it is MY problem. In general, PAs really do produce more of what sells. How many bathrooms do we have? If Mabel and George and Mrs. Chow and Ollie sell well, we tend to get more of them. In the meantime, I fiddle with morph sets, etc because it is MY problem.
It's same here in Europe.
In the more rural regions people get along with a lower income better than in the big cities like Rome, Paris, Munich or Frankfurt. Not only the rents are lower, but often living on the countryside allows to do some gardening to fresh vegetables, chickens, eggs and whatevers to your menu. Or you get that stuff from the village markets at lower prices than in the shops in the cities.
It's not all bright though, as of course other things like cinemas/theater, medical service and other commodities which are available in the cities are often more on the lacking side in the countrside...
I'm living just about 15km outside of a medium sized german town (225,000 people there) in a village with only 2.500 people, which kinda combines both advantages... which makes it hard to find a place to live for "newcomers", as many young couples are looking for a place to raise their kids away from the city, but close enough to still work in the city. Still rents are lower here than in the city, but don't think about buying a spot to build a house on (or an old house to renovate) as for a couple years there's some kinda goldrush mentality going on on that part of the market.
And in addition what has been posted above about clothes with morphs:
I'd rather buy three products at a small price to get the same functionality than a high-priced bundle, which contains 30% stuff that I don't need. Aeon Soul comes to the mind as a more positive example, whom I would buy a lot more stuff of, if the trouser legs wouldn't nearly always stop so high that one ends with capri pants and when the textures weren't nearly always only on the SciFi/Fantasy/CyberPunk side.
So a basic cloth piece (not a full outfit, but only shirt or pant or jacket etc., having the different products working with each other) plus extra poses plus extra textures trumps one big pack of options that I don't need...
Actually you can see men en pointe in pointe shoes - ever heard of the Trocks? (Ballet Trocadero de Monte Carlo - actually US) - I know they are doing it as parody, but nonetheless they do dance en pointe. On a non-parody side, there is a scene in the Royal Ballet (UK) Midsummer Night's Dream where Bottom/Donkey dances in pointe shoes too.
It's also difficult to talk about average cost of living, especially in the US, as the pandemic has greatly skewed prices. Housing costs have (in general) skyrocketed as people look to leave the cities (in example, people leaving NYC to live in Connecticut and Upstate New York). Houses are selling sometimes sight unseen, selling within hours or days of being put on the market. Rents are increasing because of the influx of people to the area. This drives up the cost of living in the area of expansion. Inflation is driving up the cost of everything, food being a huge factor. So basically, that $1500 rent five years ago may now be $1750 or $2000...and that weekly grocery bill of $200 may now be $250 or $300.
Yes, that is the way the mail should hang on the body, That looks pretty good, often, the sleeves will hang open the other direction. You can see what I mean by looking at Aragorn and Eomer in the pictures above. I understand that might be a pain to get done because it would probably require remapping the shirt and then the rings would likely be hard to blend together properly, but as it is in your picture there it looks pretty good. The only thing would be movement because as the wearer spreads their legs the links along the bottom would open up (Something that I know would be a pain in the rump as you would likely have to make an entirely different texture map just for that sort of posing) allowing the wearer more freedom of movement, the reason the links are worn in this direction is because weapon points tend to follow a path of least resistance not to mention the links are closer together making it harder to find an opening, and with the links like this the links will rotate allowing the point to slide down the shirt instead of catching allowing the weapon wielder a leverage point to try to thrust through the armor... my explanation is probably kinda simple, but it is basically correct. If the links are as you originally textured it, the links would fall open leaving gaps in the links where weapon points could find a spot to go through way more easily.
Here is a site for reference, they are showing how to make a mail short so they don't have a completed one, but they do have a slab of mail on a table where you can see the pattern across the body shoulders, and arms.
https://www.instructables.com/How-to-make-a-chainmail-shirt/
This thing here in this picture here... NOT how it should be, see all the wide-open holes where small weapons could penetrate? This is how the links would look if gravity could affect the mail with the links hanging the wrong way. (This is done by people who don't know better and who want to be done WAY sooner.) It's just wrong.
Thanks for actually taking the time to see how it would look with the texture the other way, no one else ever took the time to do even that. Even if nothing comes of it.
EDIT: I made another post, but then figured I should just add it on here
Considering a certain someone is talking crap about my post somewhere else, I will clarify, I am not asking for rotating links or modeled links or demanding anything. What I mentioned about rotating links was just me describing the function of the armor and why the links should be vertical and not horizontal... (Just in case anyone else mistakes what I wrote Sorry for any confusion.)
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