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Is she a zombie? She looks freshly dead.
Looking at a few items for her inthe store, I am guessing she was partially influenced by Cate Blanchett and a few of her movie rolls.
The product page for Ninive states she has - DAZ Studio Subsurface Material Presets (.DUF) so these are DS settings not Iray optimised a lot of stuff does convert well to Iray with little adjustment not everything.
I do wish they would do at least 1 3Delight render though its rather annoying that they are all Iray.
And there's the conflict :( If she's got 3Delight materials, the promos should show them.
And if they render her in Iray for promos, she should be optimized for Iray.
It's maddening and misleading!!!!!
So far, i have only seen ONE!!!!! character add on and/or hair that specifically lists material settings for Iray, and ironically, it was NOT at the Daz Store. Cmon Daz :(
While I don't buy this sort of stuff I have to say April, I looked at your new hair style... HONEY, you outdid yourself. Front, side and back looks really really good. Sometimes artists get lazy at the back of the hair and looks like a single sheet polys transmapped... this is full on gorgeous! Might have to get this one.
I like the Lorelei Mertail and the Arthurian Outfit too... both sets with allot of detail paid to the modeling and textures.
I'm with Richard: this is one of THE BEST character-theme released hairdos yet.
I'm very intrigued by that mermaid expansion, too. I got all of Sickleyield's/Fuseling's stuff, but didn't feel 'cheated' by the recent Callie 6 variation, because it was stylised for a cartoon world.
This is the same. It's looks very in keeping with the Arthurian art style of how a mermaid would perhaps be represented as. I'll be getting it for that sort of an exotic 'deep sea creature' mermaid look and using the others for different situations. I really like how it seems to melt into the skin texture, too.
The addition of a cape certainly sparked my interest for the Arthurian dress, too. I sort of wish costumes had all these additional textures by default, but shall probably get it for the black dress cape. :) The available capes/cloaks don't necessarily shape around certain costumes very well, whereas this set looks nice for a prospective villainess, as a whole.
That is because the PA's here had to wait for the Iray surface settings to be finalized before we submitted. And even then some of the ones we sent in in the first couple of days had to have edits to make repairs. Sometimes being first out the door means that there are errors included as part of the product and since they were not here they wouldn't have been tested for or corrected. Would you rather have it fast or have it right?
When looking at her again, I'm beginning to wonder if she wasn't supposed to be a Levantine lady originally. It's a bit hard to see, since there's no make-up less alternative, but her eyes has that almond and wide set character you often see in Mid-East women, and they often have long necks and small hands too.
But then for some reason she "turned European" (perhaps because DAZ didn't have an Ali to go with her) and her skin, originally dark olive became pink porcelaine instead. But I can still imagine her in 1001 nights, dancing in silk weils or emitting from a brass lamp.
Shameless plug:
http://www.daz3d.com/jarek-for-michael-6-hd
(A male product led the way this time too!)
What skin? When work starts on these releases there is just the shape and a general concept so that there will be some cohesion to the release. After that the character concept gets interpreted by how ever many PA's want to work with it. All the skin is created once PA's brains start cooking up a personal interpretation.
That's who first jumped to my mind as well, though Jordan deliberately re-used many names from various mythologies (often changing them slightly) and definitely a LOT from Arthurian legends... since that endless reinvention of familiar myths was part of the theme. :) I hadn't been familiar with this name being one for the Lady of the Lake, but am glad to realize the connection now.
Seriously tempted by this one. I'd pretty much sworn off buying any more G2F girls at anything more than bargain prices since I already have so many of them, but the other stuff in the bundles makes them tempting to buy regardless of the new figure. I just wish all the stuff I really want wasn't in the Pro Bundle only...
Like others, I wish they'd included some renders using 3Delight, and I also wish they'd done some without any makeup (assuming one has the option to render her without makeup). I mean, come on, she lives in a lake! How would she stop all that mascara running?
Fortunately both problems appear to be solved in the promos for Nimue Hair, none of which involve panda eye makeup, and are simply labelled "Daz Studio Render," which I take to mean 3Delight (there are some Poser renders there too).
Shameless plug:
http://www.daz3d.com/jarek-for-michael-6-hd
(A male product led the way this time too!)
In your product details it does mention Iray materials. But the only thing listed in Daz's list (What's Included and Features) is DAZ Studio Material Presets (.DUF) Some users may only pay attention to that last section, since it now defines which UVs are used.
What skin? When work starts on these releases there is just the shape and a general concept so that there will be some cohesion to the release. After that the character concept gets interpreted by how ever many PA's want to work with it. All the skin is created once PA's brains start cooking up a personal interpretation.
To me this skin is quite alien and really natural. The SSS pink glow is too much. Not human. I wish we could get more true body-scanned skin textures.
Ok.. Well, She isn't.
Ok.. Well, She isn't.
OK she isnt human... I see. I was examining this image http://www.daz3d.com/ninive-6 up close and while the skin detail is nice but its got that pink glow. Hope its just a setting on the surface and not in the texture.
On the subject of un-natural is that supposed to be a hard metal bikini? - like Victorian iron work? If so she might not want to straighten up from this pose... Its a gut piercing experience. Maybe its a gellkini and she is some steam bride of the future.
has anyone rendered Nimue Hair with 3DE?
looks nice, but afraid to buy it without seeing how it will look.
thanks :)
Seriously is this the first time you have ever seen an outfit like that? I've owned about a half dozen over the years going back to one for V4 from AS.
The promo images on that hair are not stamped with the Iray logo. I think it may be safe to assume they are indeed 3DE renders.
I believe the promos there for Nimue Hair are 3delight. They just say DAZ Studio render, not iray, though easy to miss since the new logo badge looks just like the iray one.
Edit: I see Nadino got there first :)
In your product details it does mention Iray materials. But the only thing listed in Daz's list (What's Included and Features) is DAZ Studio Material Presets (.DUF) Some users may only pay attention to that last section, since it now defines which UVs are used.
Well it does to pay to read everything in a product before you buy, correct? Second, with it being the first out of the gate I didn't have a template to work with so that's how it came out. Once more products with Iray materials are released, they will have a better idea how to display the information. But since the iray materials are in duf material presets (as well as the default and HSS), that part is correct.
dunno, has that overly white light look.
they need a 3DE badge. lol
It would be good if that new non-iray badge actually said 3Delight, that would stop the ambiguity. But I think it's safe to say that is not iray in those promos. Those are not iray shadows. Also, having gone through the process of converting AprilYSH's hair materials to iray several times myself, I found it to be one of the more tricky conversions - so that would be a good reason for DAZ to render her hair promos in 3Delight while almost everything else in the bundles is iray. I've actually been waiting for the opposite thing - an AprilYSH promo that IS rendered in iray. :)
Editing to add: in case I sound totally pro-iray promos, i'm not, I think the products should all ideally have at least one promo from each engine.
Yes, we should be reading the product page in its entirety.
What I gathered from the post was that you were suggesting that your product was different in the way it handled the display and description of the inclusion of Iray materials. Yes it does, but not by much. I was not saying that your description is incorrect.
Yes, we should be reading the product page in its entirety.
What I gathered from the post was that you were suggesting that your product was different in the way it handled the display and description of the inclusion of Iray materials. Yes it does, but not by much. I was not saying that your description is incorrect.
My original post was pointing out that there are products with iray materials that are being released here. Once Iray goes live, there will be more items available and DAZ will have a better idea how to better differentiate in what materials are included, since the duf files can hold different types of information. But customer should use always use all parts of a product description, including both the description and what's included, which in this case **clearly** points out what's included in the product.
My original post was pointing out that there are products with iray materials that are being released here. Once Iray goes live, there will be more items available and DAZ will have a better idea how to better differentiate in what materials are included, since the duf files can hold different types of information. But customer should use always use all parts of a product description, including both the description and what's included, which in this case **clearly** points out what's included in the product.
Understood. I hope that once Iray does go live that there is a better effort at clarifying the different included files.
I get it, but there are still some out there that are confused.
I can only repeat - this is only a modified Genesis 2 character (certainly with an interesting face...) as there are several other nice Gen 2 characters in the shop, but "Ninive" is not a new "basic character type" or new model generation. So the pricing with 44.95$ is absurd, even when there is a 51% discount for platinum members at the moment.
Seriously is this the first time you have ever seen an outfit like that? I've owned about a half dozen over the years going back to one for V4 from AS.
Perhaps. I dont pay attention to the faerie/fantasy stuff at all. Zero interest in that. I guess its why Gisselle which many are comparing her to is one of the few DO's I dont have. I do like toons and steampunk, but for it to work (suspension of disbelief) it has to approach some level of common sense and apply to the laws of physics. I never understand the skimpy armor thing - its counter logic. Making stainless steel breast plates to and leave your neck and mid-drift exposed is only bearing unnecessary weight into battle. I mean really look at this page of search results on armor for V4. V4 Armor Google Results
"There ain't none I would send my wife to battle in."
That is because the PA's here had to wait for the Iray surface settings to be finalized before we submitted. And even then some of the ones we sent in in the first couple of days had to have edits to make repairs. Sometimes being first out the door means that there are errors included as part of the product and since they were not here they wouldn't have been tested for or corrected. Would you rather have it fast or have it right?
I think you're missing the point. i want the product to CLEARLY state if it has Iray settings. if it does, then show the promos with Iray. if it DOES NOT have Iray settings, and only has 3delight settings, then the promos should be in 3delight. Otherwise, the promos are inaccurately representing what you actually are getting.
I'm seeing all these promos that are rendered with Iray, but don't have iray settings. Misleading!
Even worse, when one of those products doesn't have a single 3Delight render to show what you're actually purchasing.
I'm sure Daz wants to get it right. I'm sure vendors want to include the best.
But promos need to actually portray the settings that the character/figure/prop whatever come with, not "if you happen to convert it such and such a way just like this person does." That's what people call "may work in Poser with tweaking" or "may work in DS with tweaking" or "may work in Iray with tweaking"
This is my frustration. Not specifically the lack of Iray settings, as i'm learning to use Iray myself, but rather what feels like false advertising.
I think you're missing the point. i want the product to CLEARLY state if it has Iray settings. if it does, then show the promos with Iray. if it DOES NOT have Iray settings, and only has 3delight settings, then the promos should be in 3delight. Otherwise, the promos are inaccurately representing what you actually are getting.
I'm seeing all these promos that are rendered with Iray, but don't have iray settings. Misleading!
Even worse, when one of those products doesn't have a single 3Delight render to show what you're actually purchasing.
I'm sure Daz wants to get it right. I'm sure vendors want to include the best.
But promos need to actually portray the settings that the character/figure/prop whatever come with, not "if you happen to convert it such and such a way just like this person does." That's what people call "may work in Poser with tweaking" or "may work in DS with tweaking" or "may work in Iray with tweaking"
This is my frustration. Not specifically the lack of Iray settings, as i'm learning to use Iray myself, but rather what feels like false advertising.
Its a figure not a ready to render scene.If a render's look can be duplicated using the product that is sold, regardless of the render adjustments - what difference is it beyond any other artist adjustments? Light position(s) affect the look of the product render most and those positions are not offered in any figure products. Whats the difference to render engine and the material setting?
This is the first time I've ever gotten excited about a character release, partially because this one has a different look that most DAZ/PA character releases. Less model-esque and more surreal fantasy themed. Well done :)