3D Printing Licences - What?

Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,225
edited July 2022 in The Commons

I'm confused. Their was a promo once on 3D printing some years ago when I got my free Vicky 8 figure missing it's arms now (but that is another story).

Don't have a 3D printer and don't think I will buy one soon but...

- how should one claim those free 3D print licences for stuff bought before 7/12?
- where is the 3D print licence for newer stuff?

And I am supposed to get those free 3D print licences now for thousands of products just in case?

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited July 2022
    3D Printing Licenses have landed in the Daz store! Plus, for a limited time only, you can get FREE* 3D Printing Licenses for any Daz Original Items you owned before July 12, 2022. All other Daz Original 3D Printing Licenses are available for just $1.99 each.

    Simply visit the product page, add the 3D Printing License to your cart, and check out!
    *Free 3D Printing License offer expires Sept. 30 at 23:59 MDT (UTC-6).

    But you are right. They seriously exoect us to go through hundreds, thousands of products that we bought, add the new license to the cart, and check out?

    I feel "verarscht".

    Dear DAZ-people, I appreciate your thoughtfulness to offer the licenses for free or at a very reduced price, but methinks that the logistics of the thing are not thought out well?

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,020
    edited July 2022

    I'd be willing to go through thousands of products, but the first ten Daz Originals product pages I have gone to DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO BUY 3D PRINTING LICENSES. I'm using Safari, BTW.

    Or is a 3D Printing License otherwise known as an Interactive License?

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    3D printing licence allows selling the printed models, the standard licence covers printing for one's private use only

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,186
    Yeah, it's nice to offer them, but manually adding a few hundred/thousand items would be a tedious undertaking. Any chance Daz could automate the process for those interested?
  • ioonrxoonioonrxoon Posts: 894

    BeeMKay said:

    But you are right. They seriously exoect us to go through hundreds, thousands of products that we bought, add the new license to the cart, and check out?

    Ummm, this. How in the world can you choose this option, instead of adding the licenses automatically to those items?

  • JazzyBearJazzyBear Posts: 805

    I'm on mobile and Don't see the link where is it on the page?

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    I put in a ticket at the service desk, and really just can recommend that everyone else does the same so that the people in charge are informed that we're nor happy with the logistics shenannigans. Otherwise it's just 'yeah, one idiot complained but the rest keeps adding'...

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,172

    JazzyBear said:

    I'm on mobile and Don't see the link where is it on the page?

    It hasn't launched yet.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,870
    edited July 2022
    Trying hard to put this in the way I want to, what I'm trying to say is meant as a query: It was my understanding that under common law conditions that anything not explicitly controlled in a contract was permitted. Offering retrospective licences seems to be an attempt to retroactively re-write the contract and limit actions permitted under common law contracts. It is my understanding that this contract change would be hard to enforce in law, to the point of impossibility. Is my understanding correct (a request aimed at people with more contract law experience than I)? Regards, Richard ETA: must admit I am thinking more of my content obtained before anyone even thought about 3d printing (Victoria 3 era stuff, mostly).
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  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    Dear Daz, I am pleasantly surprised by the offer of free 3D printing licences, however, I am afraid I won't be able to spend the whole day clicking on the thousands of products I own to add said licences, to them.indecision

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    richardandtracy said:

    Trying hard to put this in the way I want to, what I'm trying to say is meant as a query: It was my understanding that under common law conditions that anything not explicitly controlled in a contract was permitted. Offering retrospective licences seems to be an attempt to retroactively re-write the contract and limit actions permitted under common law contracts. It is my understanding that this contract change would be hard to enforce in law, to the point of impossibility. Is my understanding correct (a request aimed at people with more contract law experience than I)? Regards, Richard

    Thing is, the EULA never allowed for commercial printing without license, so you'd now not get a rewrite of the contract, but the extra license you need for the 3D printing.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    I haven't been on Daz's website for some time... about 5 months. And I just dropped in to see this. Did they get rid of the previous links to buy a license to print, because I'm not seeing anything at all on the pages? Also, ditto on the logistics issues for doing this. Would love to get those licenses, but not planning to go through thousands of items to do it. 

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    richardandtracy said:

    Trying hard to put this in the way I want to, what I'm trying to say is meant as a query: It was my understanding that under common law conditions that anything not explicitly controlled in a contract was permitted. Offering retrospective licences seems to be an attempt to retroactively re-write the contract and limit actions permitted under common law contracts. It is my understanding that this contract change would be hard to enforce in law, to the point of impossibility. Is my understanding correct (a request aimed at people with more contract law experience than I)? Regards, Richard

    Well, let me share a thing with you. Back when, I got the commercial video game dev license when it was only one license to cover all Daz Originals. I had planned to use the items to make a game in which players were able to make cosmetic purchases of items using many of those 3d models for use in a game. At the time, there was nothing in the license prohibiting use of the models in that way. Not selling those models outside of the game, but in-game for use by character avatars. A little time passed and Daz realized they'd sold the goose that laid the golden egg. A new version of Daz released with a new EULA. In the new agreement, the language prohibiting such uses of 3d models in video games for sale as cosmetic items had been added. If I wanted to update Daz Studio, I would be forced to agree to terms retroactively altering the contract between myself and Daz Studio as given in the original language. I was not a happy camper. That was the day that my blinders were removed about the intentions of Daz as a profit-making enterprise. I have since spent very little in their shop, whereas before the change I had purchased quite a bit. Some folks are penny-wise and pound-foolish.

    If I were you, if you have any real money into it, I would seek out the advice of an attorney rather than ask on here. Daz told me that I had no option but agree to the contract changes. A lawyer may tell you different depending upon where you live. THAT'S the way Daz Studio treats customers who drop a bit of money in the shop. How do you think they treat everyone else?

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited July 2022

    Wanderer said:

    I haven't been on Daz's website for some time... about 5 months. And I just dropped in to see this. Did they get rid of the previous links to buy a license to print, because I'm not seeing anything at all on the pages? Also, ditto on the logistics issues for doing this. Would love to get those licenses, but not planning to go through thousands of items to do it. 

    There never was a license to print in the shop. Except for limited private use, as per EULA, you weren't allowed 3D prints. They now added the 3D commercial print license 'as something you can actually buy', and because of the way the DAZ store works, it will probably be late afternoon London Time before we see actual 'add to cart' button appear... devil

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited July 2022

    Just to add... while I was looking for the fine print of the license, I saw that they also have enterprise lisenves now that allow you to share your assets between several users: https://www.daz3d.com/daz-3d-enterprise

    And something new called "DAZ Coins" that can be used for payment... which is probably going to replace the store credit?

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  • markusmaternmarkusmatern Posts: 561
    edited July 2022

    The checkmarks to add the license started to appear on some items:

    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-muscle-morphs

    https://www.daz3d.com/starfire

    https://www.daz3d.com/droid

    https://www.daz3d.com/scrappy-the-robot

    https://www.daz3d.com/uranus-mission

     

    However the buttons that appears "Add license" does nothing and the displayed price is not 0.

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,020

    This is so funny.

  • I'm absolutely thrilled for this. I've looked into 3d printing a year or two back to make some of my characters available to my fans, and contrary to what some have written, it became clear pretty quickly that just wasn't an option in any practical sense. I'm really happy that I can now consider offering something like that as a reward for patrons (pending the actual license text of course, haven't seen that yet). 

    And kudo's for making it available to already owned store items for free. But I do wholeheartedly agree with the reservations about the logistics. There's a few thousand assets in my library as of now, and it'll be a nightmare to have to go through all of those manually.

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    markusmatern said:

    The checkmarks to add the license started to appear on some items:

    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-muscle-morphs

    https://www.daz3d.com/starfire

    https://www.daz3d.com/droid

    https://www.daz3d.com/scrappy-the-robot

    https://www.daz3d.com/uranus-mission

     

    However the buttons that appears "Add license" does nothing and the displayed price is not 0.

    Confirmed.

    It looks like Daz didn't manage to implement the addition correctly. Oh, and the "what is this?" link leads to Interactive Licence explanation, not to the one for 3D printing.

    Daz, why on Earth can't you test it before going live with it? *facepalm*

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,863

    I've submitted a ticket as well, I don't see how I would ever find the time to wade through all my DOs. We do need an automated process for this.

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,046

    I think one worked for me, but after that nothing worked. However not really something for me, at least now. Especially if it doesn't work.

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    BeeMKay said:

    Wanderer said:

    I haven't been on Daz's website for some time... about 5 months. And I just dropped in to see this. Did they get rid of the previous links to buy a license to print, because I'm not seeing anything at all on the pages? Also, ditto on the logistics issues for doing this. Would love to get those licenses, but not planning to go through thousands of items to do it. 

    There never was a license to print in the shop. Except for limited private use, as per EULA, you weren't allowed 3D prints. They now added the 3D commercial print license 'as something you can actually buy', and because of the way the DAZ store works, it will probably be late afternoon London Time before we see actual 'add to cart' button appear... devil

    Thanks for the info. I thought there was, but as I said, I haven't used Daz much in the past couple of years. 

  • WandererWanderer Posts: 957

    tsroemi said:

    I've submitted a ticket as well, I don't see how I would ever find the time to wade through all my DOs. We do need an automated process for this.

    Seems like it would be terribly easy to simply offer a time-limited feature in the launcher to automatically add those licenses to library. A simple check to see if user owns items in specified dates means user gets a query about adding all of them if there are more than a couple hundred in the library in question. 

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,782

    Got 8279 items, could be a long haul to do them individually !!!

  • arks0ngarks0ng Posts: 273
    edited July 2022

    Yeah, assuming it'd take me 20 seconds to open an item in a new tab, wait for the store page to load, scroll down to click on the checkbox, scroll back up to hit 'add licenses' and wait a sec to make sure it goes in, I'm looking at a bit over sixteen HOURS to add licenses to every product I own. And I'm relaticely new here so I know most will have way more than I

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  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,057

    Agree, adding these licence has do be done automatically by DAZ.

     

    I will not go through 1.000 of products to add them manually.

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,209
    edited July 2022
    I'm going to have to check that category with the DAZ Deals extension, with the "products I own" filter. Sucks that I usually don't have time to get on my laptop that much nowadays. But I might as well take advantage of the free offer.
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  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,413

    I tried to add one of these licences to my cart. Did not work.

  • davidtriunedavidtriune Posts: 452

    i'll pay someone to add all the 100s of 3d printing licenses for me, lol

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,172

    Also, the 3D printing tutorial they're giving away also has the 3D printing license option, despite only containing videos.

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