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(posted 11.02.2023 11:59 gmt+1)
I lucked out! Last night I got 1 of the offerings in the grab bag deal from the Moisture bundle. https://www.daz3d.com/artist-grab-bag-deal-for-you#index=0&order=popular^1&filtered=1 ($3.99/$2.99 with $10+ New Release.) I was looking at those since I needed something to trigger the non-members' "free with any purchase" on the current Daz+ freebie. $3.99 for 2 models, 1 new & 1 from a favorite PA's back catalog is really good.
BUT, when I checked out, I was only charged $2.99! Apparently, my grab bag item triggered the freebie as expected - & the freebie still counted as the $10+ New Release, which was a very nice surprise.
Indeed, the Genesis 8&8.1 version was much more work. It had triple the amount of Geoshells (to accommodate genders and the difference between 8 and 8.1) & doubled the amount of LIE Presets (to accommodate the difference in UVs between the male and female UVs). Working with Genesis 9 was a breeze in regards to time & effort when compared to working with both genders in Genesis 8, but we wanted to still do the product for the previous generation for those who haven't jumped to the newest generation.
I very much like the Stained Wood Iray Shaders, and it's something I definitely could use. So it's in my cart and I could get the Zou bundle for $4.99. I probably will, but otherwise wouldn't have.
Thank you for clarifying that, totally makes sense. And thanks for continuing to create items for G8/8.1.
DAZ have effectively halted my purchases by making every discount conditional on buying a New Release. This has been happening increasingly just recently and I suspect that G9 is not selling as expected so they need to make it part of every discount offer.
I really like these sales. They make it easy really to say "Thanks, but no thanks!". I always save a lot, because I don't spend anything.
Unfortunately DAZ does come up with occasional sales that tend to save me nothing (i.e. I actually buy something I didn't really need, but will definitely use). Thankfully that typically only happens a few times a year.
Interesting, by that logic G9 products should be cheaper than G8/G8.1 products, which is in general not the case. I'm not having a go at FenixPhoenix, and I truly appreciate the support for G8.1, but it does raise that question.
Buy-ins were part of Daz's marketing well before G9 came along.
G9 products are cheaper than buying both a male and female version of the same G8/8.1 outfit, though..
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...but when they involve higher priced items that means having to buy even more items to just "break even" for the cost of the item that unlocks a discount or deal (at times multiple items or bundles) along with products one may not be interested in (ieg G9), it makes the decision not to purchase a lot simpler. Not everyone here can afford to load up a cart up to make the discount (or additional percentage) worth the cost of the required item(s).
Yes I know but these days every sales discount promo has "when you buy a new release" (or similar) as a condition. Previously there was usually other offers that were unconditional.
That is all fine, but I got to my point of question by comparing the the price of character G9 characters to G8.1 characters. If it's inflatrion that is fine, but it's often about 20% between a G8.1 character by the same PA released last October and a G9 character released this weekend.
Now I haven't compared all released characters and by all PAs, but I did compare few of them. For clothing its sometimes over 25% (I just did a comparrison out of curiousity). And if G9 allows for a much more efficient workflow for PAs, 20% is quite a price jump for characters in 5 months time.
It be could the implementation of previously not corrected prices due to inflation, but that would stil be a bit of a steep price jump considering gained efficiencies in product creation. G9 products aren't 20% to 25% better for me as an end-user, and often not better at all (judging from the promos). I don't mind paying more for a better product, but at this point G9 is losing for me.
And as a result with the buy-in requirements during sales (which often require a G9 related product) my spending is way down. I doubt I will use the coupon we got in the mail this weekend because of this, and I have a hard time spending my Daz+ coupons as it becomes often more economcal just not to use them and keep my store credit for a better day.
I love the way Daz has been able to be the point of entry for me in to 3D stuff at a reasonable price, and think PAs should recieve a fair price for their work, but from an end-user perspective getting in to G9 just makes no sense to me.
I have to admit, the large buys on everything,
And also saying "Free HDRI" when you have to spend $20+ on something does put you off even thinking about checking in
Same here. I hardly bother reading the ads anymore, because I know behind every 'free' there's a 'when' lurking at DAZ nowadays. Pity though, doesn't reall entice one to invest more in G9.
Is there any chance for a $5 flash sale on interactive licenses ? The last one happened many months ago ...
(posted 12.02.2023 at 12:24 gmt+1)
If there is nothing in the new releases (or whatever qualifies for the deal) that you are tempted by then of course you won't use the deal. If there is something you wanted anyway then the deal, if attractive, is a bonus. Daz of course is hoping to tempt those who were hovering between buy and wishlist to buy - the whole point of deals is to be win/win, so both parties get something more than they would otherwise.
The 'new' parts of the deals came close to my cart a few times, but quite often these days there's no overlap between my wishlist and the older items being offered.
Hello!
Trying to understand the new way sales are handled (even though it seems like a magical algorithm). Here's a real case in point. Today, Zev had a new release. Always love Zev's stuff. However, when you scroll down to the "50% OFF¥ Featured Artist Stores." Now, the ¥ says "Discount excludes New Releases and Daz+ Items. Cannot be used to discount items already owned." Okay, however, when you click into the "View All Artists Items," Zev is actually missing from the list. Here's the list of stores under the List Artists dropdown menu on the left:
Xtrart-3d
DAX OriginalsCake One
3dLab
Bitwelder
HID3D
Bob Callawah
Mytilus
V3Digitimes
Lady Littlefox
Travler
Notice, Zev is missing. You can click on Zev's rectangle and it takes you to a page where four items are listed. Only four. Clearly, there are more items in Zev's store than just four items. One item is not New and not on sale, "Growing Up for Genesis 9." And this is the second time I've noticed that "Growing Up Genesis 9" has not been listed in Zev's featured Artist store on a release day.
Historically, when an item was no longer new and someone was listed as a featured artist because they had a new release, that product was put on sale. Is that no longer the DAZ Store policy? I've seen this phenomenon a couple of times recently with Gen 9 pieces and was wondering if this is new?
Or does the term "Featured Artist Store" no longer apply to all of an aritst's backlog of products? Or does "Featured Artist Store" really mean selected items from an artist's store?
Jason
That is certainly true, and even beyond that a featured artist category may well be selective. This has been the case for some time;
You have a strange idea of a win-win. It is only a win-win IF someone actually wants both but there is nothing to attact the rest who might be tempted by the "Free" or "Discounted" item but has no use for the conditional buy. In that case, it is a lose-lose because nobody gets anything. Personally, I would much prefer sales with unconditional offers - especially these days when I have no intention of buying into G9 content.
I kind of understand the conditionality of the offers (although I must say it's kinda misleading in my book to shout 'FREE' on the store front when it's really anything but - I wish DAZ wouldn't feel the need to stoop to this) - my main problem with them is that the 'new' selection to choose from tends to be wayyyyy too small and too specific. Like the Valentine's thingie, if you weren't into G9 females or underwear, you were out of luck. I'd appreciate it so much if this was opened up again like it used to be, to include ALL new items, and without a specific minimum amount. Because even if you're DAZ+, there's only so many cheap new items around, and you'll start looking through the 'normal' ones soon enough.
The secondary problem I have is the same as already stated in the thread: most times, my wishlist just doesn't coincide with what's on offer.
Also, I've been waiting so patiently for the clothes from the Vicky 9 Scotland packs to come on sale finally, are they ever going to? Just the single clothing set I mean, not the bundles?
...the fact that the majority of Daz+ items are under 5$ and most sales are requiring something priced at 5$ or more cuts a lot of Daz+ items out, So to get the extra say 10 or 20% discount, you have to buy something in the 12 - 20$ range and then purchase enough sale items to make the cost of the qualifying product worth it.
That was my point - an offer neds to be win-win. Obviously Daz isn't going to make offers (in gernal, on balance) that are bad for daz and customers are not going to take up the offers thata re not of benefit to them. If a day's offers are not of benefit to you then don't take them up. No one can expect to want, or be able to, to take up every single offer.
Or simply don't participate unless there is something you want enough to justify its net cost. Again, no one is going to participate in every sale (well, hardly anyone certainly).