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cherpenbeck

Tell me again, what's the reason to stay DAZ+ member if there is a sale with DAZ+ prices for everyone?

WendyLuvsCatz

cherpenbeck said:

Tell me again, what's the reason to stay DAZ+ member if there is a sale with DAZ+ prices for everyone?

I am not a DAZ+ member and I don't see DAZ+ prices, log out and look

there is a selection of items only if you buy one of today's new releases and DAZ+ members get an extra dollar off them

none looked exciting to me as I said 

if our Australian dollar wasn't so crappy the discounted membership might have been a bit more tempting with the accordion

Torquinox

cherpenbeck said:

Tell me again, what's the reason to stay DAZ+ member if there is a sale with DAZ+ prices for everyone?

It's a membership drive. They want more people to join. THe deal is better for members, but any savings are tied to buying one of today's "dazzling" new things.

PerttiA

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Richard Haseltine

kyoto kid said:

Snow said:

kyoto kid said:

...trying to find a "new release" that is around 5$ for the DAZ-O-2023 coupon is more than a challenge.  About the only items that would fall in that price area are Daz+ ones but most are either 1¢ short (4.99$) or 6$ - 19$. Then the question is," do I really need or will I ever use it in a scene?"   On top of that, most of the new releases are for G9 (And will only get worse as the weeks go on) which If you are not into G9, limits the selection even more.

Am I a bit picky?  Yes, I have to be on a pensioner's budget and with prices for everything increasing (not just here) need to get the most I can.  I'm not the only one here in that dinghy either.

Of course you're not the only one. Whenever they mention "When You Buy" I skip the whole sale. I am so tired of reading those words but I guess its a good marketing strategy and maybe the only way to get traction on new stuff because PA's have to make a living as well. When I started here on DAZ I spent a lot more then I should have because I didn't know any better. Nowadays I do know better but still spend a bit more since I am not DAZ+. I very much appreciate the occasional big discounts and free items though.

I am on mac and my renders take minimum 4h. Dforce and iray previews are extremely slow so I skip a lot of hairs and never buy environments. Should DAZ ever decide to properly support Mac (metal) my spending would probably be a lot more. Should my budget ever allow me to get an RTX card (and go Windows) things would also be a lot different.

...I've been pretty "choosy" for years as I've always been on a somewhat tight budget (crappy paying job) and now am on a fixed retirement pension that is about half of what I used to earn while I was working. 

It was easier in and more straightforward the early days, as Daz offered what were known as Vouchers (basically store credit) for contests, having works posted in the gallery. and joining the original "PC Club" for the first time (the PC Club also offered two monthly vouchers one for "Daz-O" and the other for "PA content" rather than coupons well).  Vouchers would stack with coupons so it was easy during a sale like March Madness or the PC Anniversary Sale to get some really, really good deals, and often during sales, PC items would be marked down to 99¢  (I checked my earliest  purchases in Order History, and yes, the normal PC price was 1.99$ not 99¢ as I earlier misstated).

There was also less "gimmickry" involved like punch sales and such.

Wonderland said:

ioonrxoon said:

@Wonderland That doesn't make any sense to me. They could give away half the new releases for free daily, I still wouldn't switch to G9, nor would that make me buy items I don't want. On the contrary, the best way to make me buy them is to unlock deals on old items, ending up with a cart price per item that I'm happy with, which makes the buy in insignificant. As much as I dislike the "when you buy", it often works.

Well, that's because you don't want them at all. I'm sure many would be curious and jump to play with the new shiny toys if they were super cheap. And then they'd get used to it and forget all about their older product. If the G9's had been as cheap as the G8s were for $2.00-$3.00 I definitely would have stocked up and be more willing to continue with it (if I could get the results I want without a ridiculous amount of effort.) Those sales just made me less likely to play with G9 and focus more on all the newly purchased G8s. 

...I've always been something of a sceptic when it came to new trends, never one to immediately jump on a new bandwagon rolling through town. I like to see how it does and whether it flies or flops before I hop aboard.  Hence, I've always waited a bit after a new generation was released before deciding to get on board. I am the same with software as I like to see the bugs wrung out enough t make it "serviceable" for my needs to put my money down.((part of the reason I ended up never adopting W10) but that's a long story).

I stayed with Gen4 for several months after the original Genesis was released,  Some of that had to do with the fact I was still working on a 32 Bit notebook and Daz4.0 seemed more like an ongoing train wreck  given how often it crashed.

G8 was my longest holdout as it didn't seem enough of an advance from the previous generation, as 3 was to 2, to start sinking my heard earned zlotys into it at the time (particularly as I certainly didn't think it would hang around for nearly five years given the usual two year shelf life of each Daz Genesis generation).  The other part was almost all clothing and some hair content is dForce which runs like a slug on my old hardware.  When I look back at the investment I built up  and then see the issues with G9, that is when it was time to let this bandwagon roll by and on without me.  

As I mentioned in another thread, there are plugins and utilities that allow me to pretty much combine the entirety of my Genesis 1 through 8  library (the latter growing slowly as sales permit) together.  That's a pretty sizeable resource I have at my disposal.  

The original offering was one $5 monthly credit, which could be used across multiple orders but only for 50% off PA items (Daz Originals took it at 100%).

As for not gimicky - hmm, my recollection is that there have always been fairly complex sales of various kinds. Of coruse way back we had intro at 30%, there would be a small group of classics at 20%, and we had the once per year PA sale at 50% off.

bytescapes

Question for the sales-watching hive mind: my recollection was that products stopped being New after 60 days, and when they were no longer New, they were eligible to appear in sales.

In other words, if artist X put out a product, and they had a Featured Artists sale that included that artist, then the product would be listed among their on-sale products if it was at least 60 days old.

If I'm right about that, that doesn't seem to be the case any more. For example, HID3D's Nora (62 days old) and Nao (86 days old), both no longer New, aren't included in today's HID3D sale. But Havanalibere's HL Fashion Boots for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female (65 days old) and Xivon's XI Microphones (67 days old) are both included in their respective sales.

It looks as if the 60 day rule (if it ever was a rule) doesn't apply any more, and I wonder if DAZ are either using a per-artist rule or a per-generation rule: I don't remember if I've seen any Genesis 9 products included in Featured Artist sales yet (some G9 products have appeared in other types of sales).

Thoughts?

Tomhip

bytescapes said:

Question for the sales-watching hive mind: my recollection was that products stopped being New after 60 days, and when they were no longer New, they were eligible to appear in sales.

In other words, if artist X put out a product, and they had a Featured Artists sale that included that artist, then the product would be listed among their on-sale products if it was at least 60 days old.

If I'm right about that, that doesn't seem to be the case any more. For example, HID3D's Nora (62 days old) and Nao (86 days old), both no longer New, aren't included in today's HID3D sale. But Havanalibere's HL Fashion Boots for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female (65 days old) and Xivon's XI Microphones (67 days old) are both included in their respective sales.

It looks as if the 60 day rule (if it ever was a rule) doesn't apply any more, and I wonder if DAZ are either using a per-artist rule or a per-generation rule: I don't remember if I've seen any Genesis 9 products included in Featured Artist sales yet (some G9 products have appeared in other types of sales).

Thoughts?

 

My guess would be that these are not rules but more like a "guidelines" yarrr :P

Richard Haseltine

Tomhip said:

bytescapes said:

Question for the sales-watching hive mind: my recollection was that products stopped being New after 60 days, and when they were no longer New, they were eligible to appear in sales.

In other words, if artist X put out a product, and they had a Featured Artists sale that included that artist, then the product would be listed among their on-sale products if it was at least 60 days old.

If I'm right about that, that doesn't seem to be the case any more. For example, HID3D's Nora (62 days old) and Nao (86 days old), both no longer New, aren't included in today's HID3D sale. But Havanalibere's HL Fashion Boots for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female (65 days old) and Xivon's XI Microphones (67 days old) are both included in their respective sales.

It looks as if the 60 day rule (if it ever was a rule) doesn't apply any more, and I wonder if DAZ are either using a per-artist rule or a per-generation rule: I don't remember if I've seen any Genesis 9 products included in Featured Artist sales yet (some G9 products have appeared in other types of sales).

Thoughts?

 

My guess would be that these are not rules but more like a "guidelines" yarrr :P

They stop being New after 60 days and are eligible for appearing in sales - that doesan't guarantee that they will be appearing in sales every time.

Llola Lane

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AlmightyQUEST

bytescapes said:

Question for the sales-watching hive mind: my recollection was that products stopped being New after 60 days, and when they were no longer New, they were eligible to appear in sales.

In other words, if artist X put out a product, and they had a Featured Artists sale that included that artist, then the product would be listed among their on-sale products if it was at least 60 days old.

If I'm right about that, that doesn't seem to be the case any more. For example, HID3D's Nora (62 days old) and Nao (86 days old), both no longer New, aren't included in today's HID3D sale. But Havanalibere's HL Fashion Boots for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female (65 days old) and Xivon's XI Microphones (67 days old) are both included in their respective sales.

It looks as if the 60 day rule (if it ever was a rule) doesn't apply any more, and I wonder if DAZ are either using a per-artist rule or a per-generation rule: I don't remember if I've seen any Genesis 9 products included in Featured Artist sales yet (some G9 products have appeared in other types of sales).

Thoughts?

It was already mentioned that a PA artist sale doesn't necessarily include all items, and that has been the case. That being said, yes I've also noticed that I have not seen any PA G9 items as part of a featured PA sale, so it seems like that is deliberate for some reason.

PerttiA

PerttiA said:

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house
 

Robert Freise

I don't believe there was 

DanaTA

PerttiA said:

PerttiA said:

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house
 

It does have an interior.  No props, though.  But I was sure there were some props separate, galvanized tubs and such.  Just can't remember the name of the prop set.

Dana

Charlie Judge

DanaTA said:

PerttiA said:

PerttiA said:

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house
 

It does have an interior.  No props, though.  But I was sure there were some props separate, galvanized tubs and such.  Just can't remember the name of the prop set.

Dana

I don't rember a prop set for the DAZ Old West Bath House. Mirye Software does however have an Old West Bath House that comes with interior props. Are you thinking of that? 

PerttiA

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

PerttiA said:

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house

It does have an interior.  No props, though.  But I was sure there were some props separate, galvanized tubs and such.  Just can't remember the name of the prop set.

I don't rember a prop set for the DAZ Old West Bath House. Mirye Software does however have an Old West Bath House that comes with interior props. Are you thinking of that? 

Thank you both,

Need to do some digging into the depths of Internet for reference.

Funny, those Mirye Software products somehow didn't look as good as they did in the nougties 

DanaTA

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

PerttiA said:

PerttiA said:

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house
 

It does have an interior.  No props, though.  But I was sure there were some props separate, galvanized tubs and such.  Just can't remember the name of the prop set.

Dana

I don't rember a prop set for the DAZ Old West Bath House. Mirye Software does however have an Old West Bath House that comes with interior props. Are you thinking of that? 

No, I don't think so.  I didn't puchase much there.  I can't find it anywhere, so maybe I'm imagining it.   

Dana 

DanaTA

I did find this at ShareCG, though.   https://www.sharecg.com/v/90259/browse/5/3D-Model/Old-Time-Western-Bathtub

Dana

DanaTA

And there's always this: https://www.daz3d.com/good-clean-tub-and-pail-set

And this: https://www.daz3d.com/equestrian-props  the watering tub could be used for a bath tub

With these few things I've mentioned, you could put together a prop scene.

Dana

AlmightyQUEST

DanaTA said:

Charlie Judge said:

DanaTA said:

PerttiA said:

PerttiA said:

Getting older items off of my wishlist, mostly Jack Tomalin's Old West, West Park and Parkside

Does any of the old timers remember, was there ever separate interior for the Old West Bath House?
https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-bath-house
 

It does have an interior.  No props, though.  But I was sure there were some props separate, galvanized tubs and such.  Just can't remember the name of the prop set.

Dana

I don't rember a prop set for the DAZ Old West Bath House. Mirye Software does however have an Old West Bath House that comes with interior props. Are you thinking of that? 

No, I don't think so.  I didn't puchase much there.  I can't find it anywhere, so maybe I'm imagining it.   

Dana 

Ok this is going to bug me, when you mentioned this I was also picturing a set of props that fit that "old west" hollywood sort of theme with a large tub. Not a specific interior set for that other product but something similar. I was thinking that I would come across it in my runtime every once in a while and think about whether I would ever use it. Now that I'm looking for it I can't find it :D If I have any revelations I will post it here.

Havos

There is a PA called Shredder that has released a product called Wild West Main Street. You can find it on Renderhub, and I think Renderosity as well.

The product claims to include 13 buildings, all with full interiors, including furniture. One of them is a bath house. However for such a large set, there are very few promo images, and there are none of the inside of the bath house.

Torquinox

Havos said:

There is a PA called Shredder that has released a product called Wild West Main Street. You can find it on Renderhub, and I think Renderosity as well.

The product claims to include 13 buildings, all with full interiors, including furniture. One of them is a bath house. However for such a large set, there are very few promo images, and there are none of the inside of the bath house.

That vendor has a freebie at rendo of one of the buildings - It's a saloon. It's ambitious and there is a lot to like. I found some issues with the application of textures, though - A lot of pulling and and strangeness on some of the surfaces, especially near edges and corners. Also, textures seem kind of sparse, maybe for faster loading and rendering. There are no bump, specular, or normal maps. Many of the maps are not square and there are a lot of odd-size pictures used as wall decorations. Maybe that's all fine, depends what you're doing with it. I suggest inspecting the freebie carefully before spending money on the actual set as I suspect there will be similar issues throughout. For free, I make no complaints. For the money, it may take some work to make it look its best.

NorthOf45

There was a discussion about Old West Bath House a while ago that might be of some use. Hi Jack: Interior for Old West Bath House ideas? (Wow, a year and a half already)

WendyLuvsCatz

NorthOf45 said:

There was a discussion about Old West Bath House a while ago that might be of some use. Hi Jack: Interior for Old West Bath House ideas? (Wow, a year and a half already)

in DAZ+ forum apparently  

Robert Freise

Torquinox said:

Havos said:

There is a PA called Shredder that has released a product called Wild West Main Street. You can find it on Renderhub, and I think Renderosity as well.

The product claims to include 13 buildings, all with full interiors, including furniture. One of them is a bath house. However for such a large set, there are very few promo images, and there are none of the inside of the bath house.

That vendor has a freebie at rendo of one of the buildings - It's a saloon. It's ambitious and there is a lot to like. I found some issues with the application of textures, though - A lot of pulling and and strangeness on some of the surfaces, especially near edges and corners. Also, textures seem kind of sparse, maybe for faster loading and rendering. There are no bump, specular, or normal maps. Many of the maps are not square and there are a lot of odd-size pictures used as wall decorations. Maybe that's all fine, depends what you're doing with it. I suggest inspecting the freebie carefully before spending money on the actual set as I suspect there will be similar issues throughout. For free, I make no complaints. For the money, it may take some work to make it look its best.

More affordable at the other place

 

NorthOf45

WendyLuvsCatz said:

NorthOf45 said:

There was a discussion about Old West Bath House a while ago that might be of some use. Hi Jack: Interior for Old West Bath House ideas? (Wow, a year and a half already)

in DAZ+ forum apparently  

Oh, yeah, sorry. Well, I said:

There are a few old style claw-foot bathtubs scattered around, if you have them:

Insalubrious Sanitary
Rub-a-dub Bath Set
Small Room Kit: Bathroom Props
Woodman House: The Bathroom

and later

The one shown in The Blurst of Times' post very much like the one in "i13 Secluded Living Environment", which seems to have disappeared from the store (!). Even the ReadMe is gone.

There is a classic round washtub in Antique Laundry Tools. You could apply a shader, or make your own texture. It's all one prop, but the clothes have separate surfaces that you can hide

Then there is Good & Clean Tub and Pail Set, from the same time (store-wise), with a classic round tub that could be scaled up.

Robert Freise

Freebie

https://sharecg.com/v/58889/browse/11/Poser/Victorian-Era-Inspired-Bath-tub and addon https://sharecg.com/v/58984/browse/11/Poser/Tub-Add-On ; For Daz

Torquinox

Robert Freise said:

More affordable at the other place

Agreed! 

PerttiA

Havos said:

There is a PA called Shredder that has released a product called Wild West Main Street. You can find it on Renderhub, and I think Renderosity as well.

The product claims to include 13 buildings, all with full interiors, including furniture. One of them is a bath house. However for such a large set, there are very few promo images, and there are none of the inside of the bath house.

Yes, bought it a while back from the other place. It was missing some textures which the creator added.

Otherwise the set looks pretty good but the doors rotate at the centerline.

WendyLuvsCatz

NorthOf45 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

NorthOf45 said:

There was a discussion about Old West Bath House a while ago that might be of some use. Hi Jack: Interior for Old West Bath House ideas? (Wow, a year and a half already)

in DAZ+ forum apparently  

Oh, yeah, sorry. Well, I said:

There are a few old style claw-foot bathtubs scattered around, if you have them:

Insalubrious Sanitary
Rub-a-dub Bath Set
Small Room Kit: Bathroom Props
Woodman House: The Bathroom

and later

The one shown in The Blurst of Times' post very much like the one in "i13 Secluded Living Environment", which seems to have disappeared from the store (!). Even the ReadMe is gone.

There is a classic round washtub in Antique Laundry Tools. You could apply a shader, or make your own texture. It's all one prop, but the clothes have separate surfaces that you can hide

Then there is Good & Clean Tub and Pail Set, from the same time (store-wise), with a classic round tub that could be scaled up.

thankyou 

NorthOf45

No problem.

On another note, I notice Dreamcatcher has returned with a new product after 6 years, if it is the same PA. I would love to see their catalog re-instated, they had quite a few products I had wishlisted, but never got a round tuit. Coulda, shoulda, woulda...