Who's Next to Join the G8 Family?

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  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited December 2020

    We had a lot of themes like Xmas, Cyberpunk, Viking, Ancient Egypt, Cowboy, ... but Aladdin theme (The Thousand and One Nights) and Middle East characters are still missing.

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  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,936
    edited December 2020

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited December 2020

    Noah LGP said:

    We had a lot of themes like Xmas, Cyberpunk, Viking, Ancient Egypt, Cowboy, ... but Aladdin theme (The Thousand and One Nights) and Middle East characters are still missing.

    I'm rather doubting there'll be an Aladdin type theme, as the products in the category have never seemed to sell especially well, and we've already had at least three pairs of Gen 8 character bases from the Middle East and Near East.  Between those and all their add-ons, that seems to be enough to fill that general market when other ethanotypes haven't even been touched.  What I WOULD like to see are some sets built around real world themes like office workers, construction and factory, and police/military themes, as well as more young adult sets, and some recreational sport themes for things like skiing, camping, and so on.

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    NylonGirl said:

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

    AM is doing a house cat. I'd much rather have a cat that he creates rather than have Daz do it ;). Especially if it's of the quality of his lion and lion cub, which I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    Laurie 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Cybersox said:

    Noah LGP said:

    We had a lot of themes like Xmas, Cyberpunk, Viking, Ancient Egypt, Cowboy, ... but Aladdin theme (The Thousand and One Nights) and Middle East characters are still missing.

    I'm rather doubting there'll be an Aladdin type theme, as the products in the category have never seemed to sell especially well, and we've already had at least three pairs of Gen 8 character bases from the Middle East and Near East that.  Between those and all their add-ons, that seems to be enough to fill that general market when other ethanotypes haven't even been touched.  What I WOULD like to see are some sets built around real world themes like office workers, construction and factory, and police/military themes, as well as more young adult sets, and some recreational sport themes for things like skiing, camping, and so on.

    I'd like to see more realistic historical dress and themes (from ancient to medieval to 19th century), but I know THAT is just wishful thinking. LOL

    Laurie 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,056

    AllenArt said:

    NylonGirl said:

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

    AM is doing a house cat. I'd much rather have a cat that he creates rather than have Daz do it ;). Especially if it's of the quality of his lion and lion cub, which I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    Laurie 

    He's been doing a housecat since before Genesis 8. 

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited December 2020

    Why ?

    Daz already did House Cat with dForce hair in July 2019

    https://www.daz3d.com/daz-house-cat-with-dforce-hair

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Noah LGP said:

    Why ?

    Daz already did House Cat with dForce hair in July 2019

    https://www.daz3d.com/daz-house-cat-with-dforce-hair

    Surely, you're joking.  That's a PA created product that DAZ bought which just updates the creaking and ancient original Mil cat with dForce hair and a few other fixes.  It's better than nothing, but when compared to the now four year old Hivewire cat, it's very sadly lacking in terms of both sculpt and poseability and depends almost entirely on add-ons that are from the days of Victoria 2 & 3.  That said, given the general lack of support for Big Cat 2, Horse 2 and Dog 8, I suspect that DAZ has little interest in creating any more new animal bases at this point... except for maybe yet another dragon. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    xyer0 said:

    AllenArt said:

    NylonGirl said:

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

    AM is doing a house cat. I'd much rather have a cat that he creates rather than have Daz do it ;). Especially if it's of the quality of his lion and lion cub, which I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    Laurie 

    He's been doing a housecat since before Genesis 8. 

    Word.  And let's not even go into all of the as-yet unproduced rodents that he promised back when he introduced the rodent polymorph nearly four years ago...    

  • I'd like to see something like Honey Bolt 

    https://www.daz3d.com/honey-bolt

    Obviously not an exact copy but just something with a similar vibe and aesthetic of cute robot with lights and glossy plastic. Maybe wings and pigtails could be included in its pro bundle? Since it'd be based off Genesis 8 then human figures could wear them too 

     

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,479

    Cybersox said:

    xyer0 said:

    AllenArt said:

    NylonGirl said:

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

    AM is doing a house cat. I'd much rather have a cat that he creates rather than have Daz do it ;). Especially if it's of the quality of his lion and lion cub, which I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    Laurie 

    He's been doing a housecat since before Genesis 8. 

    Word.  And let's not even go into all of the as-yet unproduced rodents that he promised back when he introduced the rodent polymorph nearly four years ago...    

    Yea lets not go there, I'm still annoyed I bought a figure I may never use and then had to buy a separate mouse figure from him as well. 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    why did david iconic die??

    were they embarrassed by all the david male pose erotica?

    did the david creator take the name with him/her?

     

  • I'm still waiting to see if there will be a Gianni 8 as long as it does not look similar to any any of the existing G8M we have thus far. A David 8 sounds epic, though.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,244
    edited December 2020

    NylonGirl said:

    Cybersox said:

    Not to mention that, at this point, the only real avenues left to explore are doing more alternate variations on types they've already covered, seriously attempting to drop new base characters for more specific ethnicities, bringing back another wave of monsters and toon types, or finally doing some younger males to match the female teen/pre-teens.  

    They could do a cat. 

    AllenArt said:

    AM is doing a house cat. I'd much rather have a cat that he creates rather than have Daz do it ;). Especially if it's of the quality of his lion and lion cub, which I don't see why it wouldn't be.

    Laurie 

    ...yes 

    Noah LGP said:

    Why ?

    Daz already did House Cat with dForce hair in July 2019

    https://www.daz3d.com/daz-house-cat-with-dforce-hair

     

    ...but it is still the 15 year old Mil Cat, just with dForce fur and that no longer loads in at the size a Great Dane.  AM's would likely have improved rigging to bend and pose more like a real cat and have LAMH fur. 

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  • HeraHera Posts: 1,958

    A cat - that's way overdo and I'd loooove it.
    Then, we've had the old Caucasian couple and the old Asian couple so I think it's high time for the old African couple. 
    I'd also love to finally have a male fairy and a male elve bundle and of course that Egypt male bundle. 

     

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,056

    XpiderMan said:

    I'm still waiting to see if there will be a Gianni 8 as long as it does not look similar to any any of the existing G8M we have thus far. A David 8 sounds epic, though.

    Ashan 8 has a similar distinctive skull shape to Gianni 6, and he's buff, though African. As Giannis go, Gianni 7 was a bit of a disappointment head morph-wise, but I liked his skin.

    Gianni 6 HD Add-On by: , 3D Models by Daz 3Dimage

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    xyer0 said:

    XpiderMan said:

    I'm still waiting to see if there will be a Gianni 8 as long as it does not look similar to any any of the existing G8M we have thus far. A David 8 sounds epic, though.

    Ashan 8 has a similar distinctive skull shape to Gianni 6, and he's buff, though African. As Giannis go, Gianni 7 was a bit of a disappointment head morph-wise, but I liked his skin.

    Gianni 6 HD Add-On by: , 3D Models by Daz 3Dimage

    I knew I liked Ashan 8 for a reason. My favorite G2M is Gianni 6. At least for me, I consider Dain 8 to be "Gianni 8". At least he's what I had hoped for, for a G8M Gianni; buff and chesty.
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Mystiarra said:

    why did david iconic die??

    were they embarrassed by all the david male pose erotica?

    did the david creator take the name with him/her?

     

    At the time it was stated that David 5, Hiro 5 and Freak 5 all sold really poorly when Genesis was introduced, so the powers that be decided not to continue the lines, completely ignoring the fact that there were a lot of other contributing reasons, with David 5 having a terrible bundle, many complaints that Freak 5 was so identical to Freak 4 as to make him an uneccessary purchase, and the beginning of the whole DAZ/Poser schism.  As for Hiro 5... okay, in that case Hiro 5 really was just actively disliked for himself, to the point that DAZ actually ended up releasing a version of the Hiro 5 Pro Bundle minus Hero, but as I recall a lot of that dislike was due to the fact that his design had gone in such a completely different direction from Aiko 5 that they no longer worked as a matched pair.    

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,056

    Nix 8 could've been named David 8, and that would be that.

    David 5 by: , 3D Models by Daz 3Dimage

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,500

    Being African American myself, I think Ashan is probably East Asian rather than African... the content points that way.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    David 5 is still my favorite.

    Laurie

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Cybersox said:

    Mystiarra said:

    why did david iconic die??

    were they embarrassed by all the david male pose erotica?

    did the david creator take the name with him/her?

     

    At the time it was stated that David 5, Hiro 5 and Freak 5 all sold really poorly when Genesis was introduced, so the powers that be decided not to continue the lines, completely ignoring the fact that there were a lot of other contributing reasons, with David 5 having a terrible bundle, many complaints that Freak 5 was so identical to Freak 4 as to make him an uneccessary purchase, and the beginning of the whole DAZ/Poser schism.  As for Hiro 5... okay, in that case Hiro 5 really was just actively disliked for himself, to the point that DAZ actually ended up releasing a version of the Hiro 5 Pro Bundle minus Hero, but as I recall a lot of that dislike was due to the fact that his design had gone in such a completely different direction from Aiko 5 that they no longer worked as a matched pair.    

    hiro was the anime boi, wish they'da  made him more like cloud. 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Mystiarra said:

    Cybersox said:

    Mystiarra said:

    why did david iconic die??

    were they embarrassed by all the david male pose erotica?

    did the david creator take the name with him/her?

     

    At the time it was stated that David 5, Hiro 5 and Freak 5 all sold really poorly when Genesis was introduced, so the powers that be decided not to continue the lines, completely ignoring the fact that there were a lot of other contributing reasons, with David 5 having a terrible bundle, many complaints that Freak 5 was so identical to Freak 4 as to make him an uneccessary purchase, and the beginning of the whole DAZ/Poser schism.  As for Hiro 5... okay, in that case Hiro 5 really was just actively disliked for himself, to the point that DAZ actually ended up releasing a version of the Hiro 5 Pro Bundle minus Hero, but as I recall a lot of that dislike was due to the fact that his design had gone in such a completely different direction from Aiko 5 that they no longer worked as a matched pair.    

    hiro was the anime boi, wish they'da  made him more like cloud. 

    Yeah, that was one of the main complaints.  Aiko 5's design was so much more like a video game character that it came as a huge surprise when Hiro 5 turned out to be much more anime and really better matched to MallenLane's character Hitomi.  The other big issue was that there was never much anime style male product made for Genesis 1, that being a niche within a niche within a niche, so a lot of folks who wanted to do that style simply opted to keep using the H3 and H4 products with their matching Aikos. 

  • Still would like to have some male counterpart for The Girl 8. That poor sod is sitting in my asset library waiting for a soul mate to share a scene with - or two, who knows.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    Still would like to have some male counterpart for The Girl 8. That poor sod is sitting in my asset library waiting for a soul mate to share a scene with - or two, who knows.

    I'm honestly surprised that they keep cranking out new versions of the Girl, but as only one generation ever had a "The Guy" male counterpart, and that was created by a PA, DAZ is clearly happy enough with her numbers to keep her as a solo act.  

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Cybersox said:

    Mystiarra said:

    Cybersox said:

    Mystiarra said:

    why did david iconic die??

    were they embarrassed by all the david male pose erotica?

    did the david creator take the name with him/her?

     

    At the time it was stated that David 5, Hiro 5 and Freak 5 all sold really poorly when Genesis was introduced, so the powers that be decided not to continue the lines, completely ignoring the fact that there were a lot of other contributing reasons, with David 5 having a terrible bundle, many complaints that Freak 5 was so identical to Freak 4 as to make him an uneccessary purchase, and the beginning of the whole DAZ/Poser schism.  As for Hiro 5... okay, in that case Hiro 5 really was just actively disliked for himself, to the point that DAZ actually ended up releasing a version of the Hiro 5 Pro Bundle minus Hero, but as I recall a lot of that dislike was due to the fact that his design had gone in such a completely different direction from Aiko 5 that they no longer worked as a matched pair.    

    hiro was the anime boi, wish they'da  made him more like cloud. 

    Yeah, that was one of the main complaints.  Aiko 5's design was so much more like a video game character that it came as a huge surprise when Hiro 5 turned out to be much more anime and really better matched to MallenLane's character Hitomi.  The other big issue was that there was never much anime style male product made for Genesis 1, that being a niche within a niche within a niche, so a lot of folks who wanted to do that style simply opted to keep using the H3 and H4 products with their matching Aikos. 

    yeah, thats what i do.  h3 and h4, https://www.daz3d.com/stratus-mccleod-for-hiro
    found some use for kenji 7 

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,902

    Cybersox said:

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    Still would like to have some male counterpart for The Girl 8. That poor sod is sitting in my asset library waiting for a soul mate to share a scene with - or two, who knows.

    I'm honestly surprised that they keep cranking out new versions of the Girl, but as only one generation ever had a "The Guy" male counterpart, and that was created by a PA, DAZ is clearly happy enough with her numbers to keep her as a solo act.  

    Two generations had a Guy counterpart. Guy 4 Michael 4 for Generation 4, and The Guy 7 for Genesis 7. I suppose Toon Dwayne might have been meant as a partner, but he doesn't really quite match. But yes, she apparently does well enough on her own.

  • I guess no Gianni 8 this year. 

  • HeraHera Posts: 1,958

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    Still would like to have some male counterpart for The Girl 8. That poor sod is sitting in my asset library waiting for a soul mate to share a scene with - or two, who knows.

    I'm still sitting with this character Sakura 8 Pro Bundle | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D who' ended up without a male counterpart and thus is pretty useless. 

  • HeraHera Posts: 1,958

    cimenroller2 said:

    I guess no Gianni 8 this year. 

    I guess no Gianni this generation. We've had so many other buff characters after all

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