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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    SimonJM said:
    Oso3D said:

    For what it's worth, I think dFurs is hilarious.

     

    You'd be dFurst to think so ... cheeky

    I won't say anything further...

  • GafftheHorseGafftheHorse Posts: 567

    Well, I thought the promos made updated cat look good -

    ...But I still use the old figures a lot

    1) they strain the computer less

    2) Somehow more rewarding to make old content look good with modern render technology and shaders.

    So I've less objection to an upgrade of old assets.

    Price was good, and a very attractive deal.

    it'd be nice to see some product releases on the back of the milcat update.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288
    edited July 2019

    Most of Lynn's morphs for the MilCat were for the version of the cat that loads the size of a cougar. I always had to start by scaling the cat to 33% if I wanted to use it as a cat.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    novastrider said:

    They made a huge mistake.

    It should've been called dFurs.


     

    As in "May dFurs Be With You"?

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 843

    What a big sandbox do we have here?

     

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,275

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,514
    edited July 2019

    First, i think its absolutely awesome that the cat is an updated version. I have SO MANY CAT TEXTURES for millenium cat. SO MANY!!! And I've wanted it in duf format forever without breaking it. And now with iray mats? What that means is...

    It's a fabulous deal for people who already have the mil cat (and I'm sure tons of us do, over the years and so many sales and so on). We can use all the poses, add ons, textures and such and not buy them all again! Woo hoo!  Furthermore, while everyone knows I'm a diehard LAMH fan and NOT a fan of garibaldi tools, I'll gladly enjoy the work others have done to create hair for my favorite critters. 
    I've been slow jumping on the dhair bandwagon, mostly because of moving and focus on dealing with a ton of real life things, but this got me to try it out because I use cats in as many pictures as i possibly can.

    This was just two fast pics... took a minute each, on my old old crap computer (it usually takes me 8 hours to put out a promo pic, and while i love using iray catalyzer for all my beloved Alessandro animals (please more animals Alessandro... i will always get them!) it does put my computer through its paces to keep up with it.

    (pardon the pose floating, simply testing the hair, light, and speed of render)

    Am I excited about this or what??? (That would be a yes. Expect to start seeing more cats in all my renders.)

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  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,514

    First, i think its absolutely awesome that the cat is an updated version. I have SO MANY CAT TEXTURES for millenium cat. SO MANY!!! And I've wanted it in duf format forever without breaking it. And now with iray mats? What that means is...

    It's a fabulous deal for people who already have the mil cat (and I'm sure tons of us do, over the years and so many sales and so on). We can use all the poses, add ons, textures and such and not buy them all again! Woo hoo!  Furthermore, while everyone knows I'm a diehard LAMH fan and NOT a fan of garibaldi tools, I'll gladly enjoy the work others have done to create hair for my favorite critters. 
    I've been slow jumping on the dhair bandwagon, mostly because of moving and focus on dealing with a ton of real life things, but this got me to try it out because I use cats in as many pictures as i possibly can.

     

     

     

    This was just two fast pics... took a minute each, on my old old crap computer (it usually takes me 8 hours to put out a promo pic, and while i love using iray catalyzer for all my beloved Alessandro animals (please more animals Alessandro... i will always get them!) it does put my computer through its paces to keep up with it.

    (pardon the pose floating, simply testing the hair, light, and speed of render)

    Am I excited about this or what??? (That would be a yes. Expect to start seeing more cats in all my renders.)

    butterflyfish said:

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

    It's super simple. load the figure with the hair, and render. ;) that's all i did!

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052
    edited July 2019
    butterflyfish said:

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

    In it's simplest form, it's not hard (But most of us go beyond simple).

    First load the 'Daz House Cat' (not the 'Daz House Cat Base Only'), then add the Materials from the 'Complete' folder, now a pose, then you can simulate. HOWEVER, if the pose has one or more of the cat's feet off the floor, then make sure in the simulation pane that 'Start Bones From Memorised Pose' is OFF, otherwise the fur under the paws may stick to the floor- or you can just simulate the cat without a floor. Like here:

     

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,321
    edited July 2019

    Sometimes we have to adopt a stray, lost, or abused animal. Sometimes, they grow on you and age with your family and friends. Their fur gets a bit skimpy, they have medical issues, they occasionally miss the litter box, but they are there with their cuddles for the person that gave them a home.

    As I watched the render form, I found myself remembering that. I think this is another step forward for the Millennium Cat. Yes, a cat with real claws would be nice, but this little guy was the right size, behaved nice and knew right where the best chair in the house was to keep warm.

    Thank you to everyone who worked on this rascal.

    PS: I forgot about Simulating completely! Load figure, material, pose, set, lights, render. Oops!

    Mary

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,880
    dragonfly_2004 said:
    butterflyfish said:

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

    In it's simplest form, it's not hard (But most of us go beyond simple).

    First load the 'Daz House Cat' (not the 'Daz House Cat Base Only'), then add the Materials from the 'Complete' folder, now a pose, then you can simulate. HOWEVER, if the pose has one or more of the cat's feet off the floor, then make sure in the simulation pane that 'Start Bones From Memorised Pose' is OFF, otherwise the fur under the paws may stick to the floor- or you can just simulate the cat without a floor. Like here:

     

    What's going on with that left front paw? Are those dForce hairs stuck to the floor? Do the foot pads have hair on them?

  • XelloszXellosz Posts: 843
    butterflyfish said:

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

    Easy if you are happy with the basics.

     Oso3D already posted some tips specially about dfur in the 3rd  page, You should play with the fure settings if you don't like the basics, like this: 

     

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052
    barbult said:
    dragonfly_2004 said:
    butterflyfish said:

    How hard is it to use this dforce fur? I've upgraded to 4.11, but I've been reluctant to get on the dforce hair train. Is there much of a learning curve? I don't use animals much, but for less than $5, I'm feeling like I might get it anyway. 

    In it's simplest form, it's not hard (But most of us go beyond simple).

    First load the 'Daz House Cat' (not the 'Daz House Cat Base Only'), then add the Materials from the 'Complete' folder, now a pose, then you can simulate. HOWEVER, if the pose has one or more of the cat's feet off the floor, then make sure in the simulation pane that 'Start Bones From Memorised Pose' is OFF, otherwise the fur under the paws may stick to the floor- or you can just simulate the cat without a floor. Like here:

     

     

    What's going on with that left front paw? Are those dForce hairs stuck to the floor? Do the foot pads have hair on them?

    Yes, there are hairs on the paws. I did not check closely, to see how many hairs, as I don't think I'd ever use this cat for close up renders. If you check my second thumbnail. I show the same situation, but with the sim running without starting from the zero pose.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,047

    If it fits, I sits.

     

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  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,275

    Thanks, everybody. I bought it, so I guess I'll see what happens. smiley

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    edited July 2019

    ...scratch that last request.  Looks like it's only MilCat with dForce fur and in .duf format that no longer loads in with the size of a doberman. 

    Gosh golly gee, was hoping it was finally Cat 8 as we need a cat that bends like a real life cat (eg. has weight mapping and it's own Fluidos settings). 

    Anyway, my bank balance is 60¢ shy even with the Cat-20 coupie, and I don't bother with dForce as I have an older system. 

    So, since the early Daz days, we've had...

    ...three Dragons (and that "subdragon" critter)...

    ...two Horses...

    ...two Dogs...

    ...two Big Cats...

    ...two Cows (the latter, a morph of Horse 2)...

    ...but only one basic cat with 16 year old rigging and no weight mapping.

    We need Cat 8

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,880
    edited July 2019

    OK, I bought the cat. 

    • Why are material settings that are categorized as "Hair Colors" changing the length of the fur?

    Edit: I mean several of the color materials (not just the style materials) change the fur length. Like the white color makes the fur long. Why?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,625

    I am happy Oso3D made the effort the give the cat fur and would like all the legacy animals updated with furs

    no argument there and if it had been promoted as such I don’t think anyone would argue

    just to be clear

    Dog8 just set a precedent most expected other animals to follow with face rigging etc, the promo that leaked for some just set us up for something else, DAZ just needs to be a bit more transparent in their marketing, furs for the housemouse, the DAZ seal etc will sell with updated duf files just make sure it’s marketed as such. enlightened

  • DaikatanaDaikatana Posts: 830
    Wendy_Carrara said:

    I am happy Oso3D made the effort the give the cat fur and would like all the legacy animals updated with furs

    no argument there and if it had been promoted as such I don’t think anyone would argue

    just to be clear

    Dog8 just set a precedent most expected other animals to follow with face rigging etc, the promo that leaked for some just set us up for something else, DAZ just needs to be a bit more transparent in their marketing, furs for the housemouse, the DAZ seal etc will sell with updated duf files just make sure it’s marketed as such. enlightened

    Well said!!! 

    I , like others, was expecting a new cat figure. 

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,642

    The description says you can use textures for the Millenium Cat. My initial experiments indicate that you can, but only if you don't use the dForce fur. When I tried appying a texture to the cat and the fur, the fur did change colour but it didn't pick up the pattern.

    I suppose expecting the fur to accept textures designed for a flat surface is asking a bit much, but as far as I can see the fur is what makes this different from the Millenium Cat. So you might as well just keep using the old textures on the old cat.

    Then again, I can't find a readme for this cat. Maybe there should be some hints in there on how to use the fur.

    Still, all in all it is a nice cat, the fur looks great and the price is very reasonable.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,063

    Cat haz permanent. Need gel.

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    Peter Wade said:

    The description says you can use textures for the Millenium Cat. My initial experiments indicate that you can, but only if you don't use the dForce fur. When I tried appying a texture to the cat and the fur, the fur did change colour but it didn't pick up the pattern.

    I suppose expecting the fur to accept textures designed for a flat surface is asking a bit much, but as far as I can see the fur is what makes this different from the Millenium Cat. So you might as well just keep using the old textures on the old cat.

    Then again, I can't find a readme for this cat. Maybe there should be some hints in there on how to use the fur.

    Still, all in all it is a nice cat, the fur looks great and the price is very reasonable.

    If it's like the other dforce furred animals I've played with, you can manually apply the texture to the fur (need to do both root and tip IIRC) in the surfaces tab. Some additional color tweaking may be needed from there.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited July 2019

    Just when you thought...

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,047

    I do want to make clear that I did the initial hair and got the ball rolling, then a bunch of other people took it and ran with it.

     

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,642
    Oso3D said:

    I do want to make clear that I did the initial hair and got the ball rolling, then a bunch of other people took it and ran with it.

     

    You got a hair ball rolling? A very feline thing to do smiley

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,037

    My question of the day is will the DeForce fur work if you use 3DL? not Iray

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,625
    edited July 2019

    sadly it goes to CPU for me after the first frame and 3Delight is waaay quicker with my rig CPU then but no 3Delight shaders, can render it white but thats it

    so white cats it is

    I did do long fur though

    iray

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,037

    Ahh so no 3DL hmmm  then no need to upgrade to 4,11 ,and I'll just keep postworking fur .Thank you Wendy

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,625
    carrie58 said:

    Ahh so no 3DL hmmm  then no need to upgrade to 4,11 ,and I'll just keep postworking fur .Thank you Wendy

    it might be manually doable but I am not familiar enough with the shader

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,037

    Well maybe I'll try that  at some point . thanks again .

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