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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

  • Chohole said:
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

    First computer I had in my home.  "DigiComp1"  Piss poor machine, never worked without annoying mechanical issues.  Even with only three bits to deal with.   But I kept it for years and years.  When I was working at the Kennedy Space Center I put it on top of the computer in my lab with a sign that said, "In Case Of Emergency". smiley

     

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    edited December 2019

    Non-complaint:  Wheee... I have made significant progress in my network issues.  After disabling Router firewall and turning off Norton firewall the problem persisted.frown  So I turned firewalls back on and continued testing.  More research on the Internet suggested a possible problem with WiFi network hardware or driver.  All drivers were up-to-date but that still left actual hardware.  Both computers using WiFi have old WiFi hardware so...  I rummaged around in my goodie boxes and found a not quite so old USB WiFi transceiver and plugged it into the laptop and instantly all was OK.  Didn't even have to configure it.surprise  All machines talking to each other again.  Yay! smileyyesNow, the question is why did that work? indecision  I believe at one time, that USB transceiver had been installed because it can handle both 2.4GHZ and 5GHz  WiFi frequency ranges.  But a year or two ago I removed it.  Perhaps some of the driver and configuration of Microsoft Password Protected Sharing stuff has gotten scrambled and re-routed to that particular device instead of the built-in WiFi chip in the laptop.  So, that when it is absent, some features don't work?  And it explains why after I'd gotten all other permissions and configurations straightened out, the two WiFi machines still couldn't see each other when having to use WiFi only.yes

    Regardless, I have a solution, I understand why the solution works.  Not in detail but enough.  And since the problem did not lie with the desktop that I was going to move upstairs, I don't need to fully resolve the problem.  I doubt that I will ever have to use the boogered laptop to discover other wireless devices. or if I do have to, then I can just plug the USB transceiver in and Bob's your uncle.  I quit for today.  My eyes are going wonky,  My throat is dry.  I'm tired,  Time for a shot of peach brandy and a nap.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Chohole said:
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

    First computer I had in my home.  "DigiComp1"  Piss poor machine, never worked without annoying mechanical issues.  Even with only three bits to deal with.   But I kept it for years and years.  When I was working at the Kennedy Space Center I put it on top of the computer in my lab with a sign that said, "In Case Of Emergency". smiley

     

     

    LOL 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453
    Mystarra said:

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

    The super ocean around the super continent was called Panthalassa. Sounds like a name for a Marvel character, LoL!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthalassa

  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

     

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    There was only one of these, correct? It was a prototype for a program that got cancelled. I remember doing some trivial Fortran programs on an IBM 1620, then took classes that used a CDC 6400 that had 60-bit words. Water cooling was actually common for large mainframes.

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,570

    What was/is more powerful?  The house size computer or my apple phone?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    Mystarra said:

    wind advisory

    high of 38F, that's not high, how can they call it high?

    plugged in my lectric shawl at dayjob.  holding hot coffee mug for warmth.

    ...make sure to plug in the cat as well so it's fully charged.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    edited December 2019
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    remember archie and kermit  ?

    ...had one of those along with a Timex Sinclair 1000, an Atari 800, and an Apple ][ (with two disk drives) in the student apartment I shared back in the 1980s. 

    That was back when you needed one of these to hook up to your television to use it as a monitor (the apple ][ had its own monitor)

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    edited December 2019

    Last Network Complaint/Non-complaint:  Wheee... after futzing around with the two WiFi transceivers on the laptop (built-in, and USB), enable, disable, check for up-to-date drivers for both. (no newer driver found), then properly disabling and removing the USB transceiver and re-enabling the built-in WiFi transceiver, then rebooting.  Network sharing among my four computers on both LAN and WiFi seems to be working OK now.  Wheee...smiley  And all this after I had my shot of brandy.surprise

    I know I promised this would be the last network complaint/non-complaint, but I just remembered that I still have the issue of "Media Sharing".  I don't actually use it but now that I know that it isn't working the way I expected it would, I'm curious.  And "curious" is like an addiction to me.  So... stay tuned.

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  • Mystarra said:

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

    As far as we know there was no one around to name anything.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    edited December 2019
    Mystarra said:

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

    As far as we know there was no one around to name anything.

    In the grand scheme of things, it really wasn't that long ago in the history of the Earth.  Somebody(creature) must have had a stray thought.  Well, at least something simple like "I'm being chased by <thought for; big thing that wants to eat me>, I must run into the <thought for; wet stuff that's deep enough to get away>.  Carving that thought onto rock would come much later.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,265
    kyoto kid said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    remember archie and kermit  ?

    ...had one of those along with a Timex Sinclair 1000, an Atari 800, and an Apple ][ (with two disk drives) in the student apartment I shared back in the 1980s. 

    That was back when you needed one of these to hook up to your television to use it as a monitor (the apple ][ had its own monitor)

    The Commodore 64 also had its own monitor!  Quite a nice 13" one.  Still have it.  Some years ago, I used it as an emergency TV when our 27" console TV died.  Propped it up on a chair from the dining room, in front of the dead TV.  Used the home theater setup for the sound.  color was quite nice.  Glad we replaced it with a 41" rear projection Sony TV, though.

    Dana

  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453

    What was/is more powerful?  The house size computer or my apple phone?

    Seriously? An iPhone is a supercomputer by 1950's standards. I used to joke that there are more transistors in one cell phone than ever went to the moon. Not true anymore, as China landed 2(!) robotic probes on the moon that are pretty sophisticated. I saw a presentation on the Apollo Guidance Computer. It was brutally simple, but it could do things in real time, even recover from faults.

  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453
    Mystarra said:

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

    As far as we know there was no one around to name anything.

    In the grand scheme of things, it really wasn't that long ago in the history of the Earth.  Somebody(creature) must have had a stray thought.  Well, at least something simple like "I'm being chased by <thought for; big thing that wants to eat me>, I must run into the <thought for; wet stuff that's deep enough to get away>.  Carving that thought onto rock would come much later.

    The current theory is that life originated in the oceans. Some little creature at some point had the germ of a thought that some predator was chasing it so it had better grow a backbone to anchor muscles to so it could swim away faster!

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    edited December 2019
    Mystarra said:

    In the Pangea days when we were 1 happy continent,

    earth was 1 ocean?  anyone know what the ocean was called in those days?

    all i remember about pangea was scrat cracked the continents apart with an acorn 

    As far as we know there was no one around to name anything.

    In the grand scheme of things, it really wasn't that long ago in the history of the Earth.  Somebody(creature) must have had a stray thought.  Well, at least something simple like "I'm being chased by <thought for; big thing that wants to eat me>, I must run into the <thought for; wet stuff that's deep enough to get away>.  Carving that thought onto rock would come much later.

    The current theory is that life originated in the oceans. Some little creature at some point had the germ of a thought that some predator was chasing it so it had better grow a backbone to anchor muscles to so it could swim away faster!

    That came long after some little single cell blob of protoplasm decided to ooze away from another single cell blob of protoplasm that was trying to engulf it.  It had no particular goal, just "away".  What's really amazing is that that little blob of protoplasm knew which way "away" was, and even that the other blob was trying to engulf it.  And that being engulfed was not desirable.   All this without a nervous system, much less a brain.cool

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    edited December 2019
    DanaTA said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    remember archie and kermit  ?

    ...had one of those along with a Timex Sinclair 1000, an Atari 800, and an Apple ][ (with two disk drives) in the student apartment I shared back in the 1980s. 

    That was back when you needed one of these to hook up to your television to use it as a monitor (the apple ][ had its own monitor)

    The Commodore 64 also had its own monitor!  Quite a nice 13" one.  Still have it.  Some years ago, I used it as an emergency TV when our 27" console TV died.  Propped it up on a chair from the dining room, in front of the dead TV.  Used the home theater setup for the sound.  color was quite nice.  Glad we replaced it with a 41" rear projection Sony TV, though.

    Dana

    ,..but that was a separate expense and the flatmate was cheap (a college student) so he used his portable television instead (he did have the cassette tape drive though).

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,067
    Chohole said:
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

    First computer I had in my home.  "DigiComp1"  Piss poor machine, never worked without annoying mechanical issues.  Even with only three bits to deal with.   But I kept it for years and years.  When I was working at the Kennedy Space Center I put it on top of the computer in my lab with a sign that said, "In Case Of Emergency". smiley

     

    I love the writing on the box...

    "First real operating digital computer in plastic... See logic in action... Now for the first time see and understand the operations hidden in the circuits of a giant computer and learn the language of computers"

    "...giant computer..."

    Years ago I heard someone mention something like this, but it belonged to an older sibling and they weren't sure they were remembering it right... I had no idea this actually existed because they described it so weirdly... but this is actually pretty cool... reminds me of a Jacquard loom.

    And apparently they sold for $5 more or less... 

    But I guess in 1960s money... that $5 is more like $35 - $40... 

    Which is still pretty cheap... for an equivalent "educational toy"... Probably constructed out of the same materials today that thing would go for $80 - $100... you know... cause it's "educational" and like anything good for your body or brain, it has to cost more.

     

     

     

  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,570

    What was/is more powerful?  The house size computer or my apple phone?

    Seriously? An iPhone is a supercomputer by 1950's standards. I used to joke that there are more transistors in one cell phone than ever went to the moon. Not true anymore, as China landed 2(!) robotic probes on the moon that are pretty sophisticated. I saw a presentation on the Apollo Guidance Computer. It was brutally simple, but it could do things in real time, even recover from faults.

    Wow! Cool!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    McGyver said:
    Chohole said:
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

    First computer I had in my home.  "DigiComp1"  Piss poor machine, never worked without annoying mechanical issues.  Even with only three bits to deal with.   But I kept it for years and years.  When I was working at the Kennedy Space Center I put it on top of the computer in my lab with a sign that said, "In Case Of Emergency". smiley

     

    I love the writing on the box...

    "First real operating digital computer in plastic... See logic in action... Now for the first time see and understand the operations hidden in the circuits of a giant computer and learn the language of computers"

    "...giant computer..."

    Years ago I heard someone mention something like this, but it belonged to an older sibling and they weren't sure they were remembering it right... I had no idea this actually existed because they described it so weirdly... but this is actually pretty cool... reminds me of a Jacquard loom.

    And apparently they sold for $5 more or less... 

    But I guess in 1960s money... that $5 is more like $35 - $40... 

    Which is still pretty cheap... for an equivalent "educational toy"... Probably constructed out of the same materials today that thing would go for $80 - $100... you know... cause it's "educational" and like anything good for your body or brain, it has to cost more.

     

     

     

    ...43.89$ adjusting for inflation. Still a decent price when you see what some pure "entertainment" based toys are going for today,

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 13,265
    kyoto kid said:
    DanaTA said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    remember archie and kermit  ?

    ...had one of those along with a Timex Sinclair 1000, an Atari 800, and an Apple ][ (with two disk drives) in the student apartment I shared back in the 1980s. 

    That was back when you needed one of these to hook up to your television to use it as a monitor (the apple ][ had its own monitor)

    The Commodore 64 also had its own monitor!  Quite a nice 13" one.  Still have it.  Some years ago, I used it as an emergency TV when our 27" console TV died.  Propped it up on a chair from the dining room, in front of the dead TV.  Used the home theater setup for the sound.  color was quite nice.  Glad we replaced it with a 41" rear projection Sony TV, though.

    Dana

    ,..but that was a separate expense and the flatmate was cheap (a college student) so he used his portable television instead (he did have the cassette tape drive though).

    Yeah, we started out with the tape drive.  Talk about slow!  We got a 5.25" floppy drive and that made a big difference.  Never got the third party RAM modules for it, though.  Did get the low profile keyboard case, though.  That made a difference.  got a 300 baud modem, too.

    Dana

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    edited December 2019
    McGyver said:
    Chohole said:
    DanaTA said:
    Mystarra said:
    McGyver said:
    Ostadan said:

    Kids today.  My first computer lessons were on an AN/FSQ-32 computer.   48-bit 'words', eight six-bit bytes each.  128K words, oil and water cooled. 400KHz cycle time.

    I have sometimes given a presentation at science fiction or fantasy conventions on "3D Rendering on the Cheap", basically about DAZ Studio.  One of my slides compares the image above to something like a Raspberry Pi.  It's pretty amazing, really.

    That's a home computer... it's the size of an average home.

     

    commodore 64 smiley

    First computer we had in our home!

    Dana

     

    We could only afford a ZX80

    First computer I had in my home.  "DigiComp1"  Piss poor machine, never worked without annoying mechanical issues.  Even with only three bits to deal with.   But I kept it for years and years.  When I was working at the Kennedy Space Center I put it on top of the computer in my lab with a sign that said, "In Case Of Emergency". smiley

     

    I love the writing on the box...

    "First real operating digital computer in plastic... See logic in action... Now for the first time see and understand the operations hidden in the circuits of a giant computer and learn the language of computers"

    "...giant computer..."

    Years ago I heard someone mention something like this, but it belonged to an older sibling and they weren't sure they were remembering it right... I had no idea this actually existed because they described it so weirdly... but this is actually pretty cool... reminds me of a Jacquard loom.

    And apparently they sold for $5 more or less... 

    But I guess in 1960s money... that $5 is more like $35 - $40... 

    Which is still pretty cheap... for an equivalent "educational toy"... Probably constructed out of the same materials today that thing would go for $80 - $100... you know... cause it's "educational" and like anything good for your body or brain, it has to cost more.

    It may have been educational but I never learned a thing from it.  Oh, I made it work.  It could add 001 to 011 and get 100, and I could make it count down from 111 to 000, and I could OR and AND two 3-bit numbers together.  But only if I followed the programming instructions verbatim.  I never had a clue how to design my own program or how the program worked or what made a flip, flop.  And then one of the teeny rubber bands would break or the machine would jam or a "program" nodule would split and give wrong results.  It wasn't until college when I picked up the assembler manual for the IBM-1130 and taught myself how to program in assembler that I really got a feel for what was actually going on.  Of course, the classes in digital electronics helped in understanding the flipping and flopping part.

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ...interesting, my old smartphone has "only" 4 GB of memory.  That still far eclipses effective memory of that B6700 I worked on which figured out to a whopping 6 MB.  

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    Mystarra said:
    kyoto kid said:
    Mystarra said:

    the new flutterby dress is cute

    ...?

    ...just found it, but it's dForce so a no-go.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    its all dforce these days

     

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    wind noisy scary out there  loud enough to wake me up

    23F, snowing wind 21mph  wind gusts news said up to 50, thats the kind knocks power lines

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    Mystarra said:

    its all dforce these days

     

     

    ...yeah, at least I can say one good thing about it, I'm saving money.  Need to find a way to get the latest Marvelous Designer. No longer in the update track as I only have ver. 3.0.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260
    Mystarra said:

    wind noisy scary out there  loud enough to wake me up

    23F, snowing wind 21mph  wind gusts news said up to 50, thats the kind knocks power lines

    ...39° and raining heavily here. A flood watch has been issued from tonight through early Sunday morning with the heaviest amounts tomorrow through Saturday.  If it were cold enough, this would be a major snow event the likes of which haven't been seen in possibly a century.

    Just made another big batch of curry chicken, should that hold me for a few days so I can just stay in during the multi day downpour.

    Glad I no longer live in the old cellar flat, I'd probably be up to my ankles in water there.

  • Non-complaint:  Snow, snow, snow.  7 to 8 inches of the stuff out there.  Light fluffy stuff though.  However, my neighbor in the other half of the house couldn't get his car up the driveway all the way last night.  Even after shovelling much of it.  It's times like this that make me happy I don't have a car and have a significantdevil heart problem that provides a valid excuse for not helping the buff, twenty-something macho biker throw snow.  It's his world now.  I got winded sweeping the snow from my 6'x6' porch.  So, I went back inside and had another shot of peach brandy, snuggled up under my granny blanket and watched another new episode of "The Expanse".yes

    His car is still out there blocking the landlord's plow that came early this morning.indecision

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