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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,903
    edited June 2020

    It turns out, if you use DIM or manual install, that Atlas Hair installs in the wrong place. It installs to Genesis 8 Female/Hair instead of Genesis 8 Male/Hair. Heaven only knows what the metadata looks like for the Smart Content people.

    That said, it actually looks like a female hair, so. (And given that the existing paths are in the readme, was probably designed to be a female hair.)

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,404

    With Leroy 8 you got 2 Gen 8 pro bundles, one older bundle plus 100 dollars worth of other DOs. So 6 bundles, most of which are very old was not that unbelievable. With the somewhat reduced offer now, it is way below that for Leroy in my opinion.

    Regarding Ashan, I like the base and hair, but as with most of the last few bundles none of the clothing is something I personally would use. I prefer contemporary or historical clothing whilst the new items in this sale so far seem to be mostly Fantasy or Sci-Fi.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    Cybersox said:
    Hanabi said:
    Hanabi said:

    Well, the deal isn't nearly as sweet for someone who owns all of the pro bundles, but...I'm weighing getting him anyway. 

    I have all the bundles I'd actually want...but it's nice to have some decent extras. 

     

    I have....all of them. Literally all of them. /cough

    Same here.  I haven't been able to use a Free Genesis (Fill in the number) Pro Bundle offer in over a year.  It would be nice if we could get them and give them as gifts.  On the other hand, they finally dropped that same stagnant pool of free items that they've been recyling

    There are still a few Pro Bundles I don't own that I still want. A few.

    Stagnant pool of freebies is right. My problem with that pool is they give you $10 in each category to buy things, but the items all cost $7 or more, so you either go into your own pocket or leave money on the table.

    On top of everything else, there's nothing I really WANT in the pool of freebies. I'm just picking stuff to not leave money on the table.

    I probably wouldn't be so upset about this if it were a female character. I rarely buy males unless the deal is right.

    I did get a purple banner and that would have chopped the price down a bit.

    Oh well, this debacle ruined an already rotten day.
  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 787
    AllenArt said:

    For anyone that thinks Ashan and Valentino look at all similar....not even close ;). Valentino got his muscles from his everyday life. Ashan got his at the gym. LOL

    Laurie

    That was me, so i was mostly wrong. Bodies are certainly different. But they still share some genes. Side to side, they seem good as brothers or cousins. I still prefer more variation, but that is more personal note.

    Wonderland said:

    Wolfwood said:

    Well i have good things and bad things to say.

    Let's start for the bad:

    Isn't Ashan too similar to Valentino? Sorry, i have to point that. Cool character, but i find him too similar.

    Fantasy, more and more fantasy. This WHOLE Sale month has been pure fantasy like things on DO big releases: Daisy, Angharad, 2 Fantasy mini bundles, and this also fantasy like. I know i know, it sells. But please give it a rest. Sci fi only gets bits here and there never the big bad ass promos. It may not sell as much but provide the proper incentives and will sell decently at least. We will get at most one extra big release during the sale before prices go up and my hope for sci-fi (or at least something useful) are really low. Less realeases i get but no giving same benefits to other themes is simply not fair.

     

    If the fantasy outfits have good material zones, you can easily use sci-fi looking shaders to make them sci-fi! I do it all the time! You can even repurpose a lot of the clothes to be be normal current clothes too with shaders.  laugh

    Sure, but that takes time, and shaders. Lots of people probably love to do that, but i'm still too new here to be fast at that. I'm slowly gathering shaders (free and paid) when i can. But the time it would require me (again, i'm not very skilled at this) is certainly not worth for its price. Now, i'm not saying this is expensive; just that for spending $32+ (pro+3xaddons) i would prefer something that is more to my taste out of the box.

    Since fantasy already got so much love this month (in term of DO bundles), i think my complain of wanting better offers for other genres is fair.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,911
    edited June 2020

    Getting Ashan 8 Pro bundle was pretty much of a no brainer for me. With the discounts and my purple banner I got a decent bundle and 3 addons (including the HD addon) for $39 and got Alawa 8 Pro free. Since I had already bought Alawa 8 Pro less than 30 days ago I was able to get a refund of the $28 I had originally paid for Alawa 8 Pro. Thus, effectively I only paid $11 for the Ashan 8 Pro bundle and addons. Since tomorrow is my birthday it was a nice early birthday present. Thanks, DAZ

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  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,715

    Ashan is not bad, He could be many different ethnicities,  

     

    Nice.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,182
    vwrangler said:

    It turns out, if you use DIM or manual install, that Atlas Hair installs in the wrong place. It installs to Genesis 8 Female/Hair instead of Genesis 8 Male/Hair. Heaven only knows what the metadata looks like for the Smart Content people.

    That said, it actually looks like a female hair, so. (And given that the existing paths are in the readme, was probably designed to be a female hair.)

    thats what i thought right away when i saw it. female hair. 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,056
    edited June 2020
    Wolfwood said:

     

    Wonderland said:

    Wolfwood said:

    Well i have good things and bad things to say.

    Let's start for the bad:

    Isn't Ashan too similar to Valentino? Sorry, i have to point that. Cool character, but i find him too similar.

    Fantasy, more and more fantasy. This WHOLE Sale month has been pure fantasy like things on DO big releases: Daisy, Angharad, 2 Fantasy mini bundles, and this also fantasy like. I know i know, it sells. But please give it a rest. Sci fi only gets bits here and there never the big bad ass promos. It may not sell as much but provide the proper incentives and will sell decently at least. We will get at most one extra big release during the sale before prices go up and my hope for sci-fi (or at least something useful) are really low. Less realeases i get but no giving same benefits to other themes is simply not fair.

     

    If the fantasy outfits have good material zones, you can easily use sci-fi looking shaders to make them sci-fi! I do it all the time! You can even repurpose a lot of the clothes to be be normal current clothes too with shaders.  laugh

    Wolfwood said:

     

    Sure, but that takes time, and shaders. Lots of people probably love to do that, but i'm still too new here to be fast at that. I'm slowly gathering shaders (free and paid) when i can. But the time it would require me (again, i'm not very skilled at this) is certainly not worth for its price. Now, i'm not saying this is expensive; just that for spending $32+ (pro+3xaddons) i would prefer something that is more to my taste out of the box.

    Since fantasy already got so much love this month (in term of DO bundles), i think my complain of wanting better offers for other genres is fair.

     

    Actually your post inspired me to do a sci-fi scene with the Ashan bundle stuff and I'm rendering it now. Changing shaders on material zones is really very easy and for me it's really fun to do. You can totally change the look of an outfit and use it in many different ways which is great if you're on a budget. Shaders are definitely worth investing in! 

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  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,063
    AllenArt said:

    His irises are HUGE. o.O His skin is overall a bit flat in that it's too much one color. Other than that, he looks more continental African in features than Middle Eastern to me (not complaining) :). Is he supposed to?

    Laurie

    "Hailing from an arid and inhospitable country" could be the Sahara.

    Ashan is not bad, He could be many different ethnicities,  

     

    Nice job! We hardly ever get renders from you anymore. Thanks for making an exception.

    jakiblue said:

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

    I think so too. Romulus71 said to make sure the normals were on and turn them up to 1.5, but he meant WITH the HD.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,056
    jakiblue said:

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

    I'm kicking myself now for not getting the HD morphs as one of the three addons. Somebody said it only came out to around $8.00.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977

    Thanks @Phoenix1966

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,182
    jakiblue said:

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

    I'm kicking myself now for not getting the HD morphs as one of the three addons. Somebody said it only came out to around $8.00.

    $8.23 for me, but if you have a GC or something you can obviously save some more ... or maybe a coupon. 

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,911
    jakiblue said:

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

    I'm kicking myself now for not getting the HD morphs as one of the three addons. Somebody said it only came out to around $8.00.

    Yep, it's one of the HD addons that are well worth it.; just look at all the extra detail in the promos.

    You can still get it by itself for about $13 or you could repurchase your original order with the addon included and request a refund of your original order.

  • Can't say I've ever seen an incentive that gives away SIX pro bundles for buying one...so when I tried it early this morning after seeing the initial comments in this thread, I knew it had to be a mistake. I'd be bummed if I missed it too...but it was quite clearly a mistake. No reason to get bent out of shape at Daz for fixing their mistake. Now if the ad had actually said "and" instead of "or" and then they didn't honor it, then yeah. 

    Sadly I don't have a way to prove if it was or not because I didn't feel the need to take a screenshot at the time, so yeah, I could be wrong (And cool! Now I will have the need to screenshot every sale). All I know is that I'm almost always awake at the time of the store's daily switch, so I check it out, get in the cart anything that interests me and go to sleep (because you also can miss good sales for buying too early! yay!). That was the case today and all I can say is that I understood it was all that so I got all the bundles in my cart, and how it's written now I don't think I would have thought I could get all those bundles. If I was the only one I would lean heavily on it being my mistake but I wasn't.

    And sure, it could have been a mistake but I own a business where I live and here that kind of thing (changing it midway) can get you in trouble due to something called "dishonest marketing" (or something like that). Sure, it could have been a honest mistake but how can you tell when it was not? You can just make it really good so people go around telling about it, then change it saying it was a mistake and a lot of people will buy it anyway (like some did in this case). It's the business responsability to make sure to avoid those mistakes. I would be more emphatetic if it was a small business with not that many people to catch these mistakes but Daz is definitely not small. So yeah, Ashan 8 is nice, I could still get a gen 8 pro bundle and some stuff with it, but I don't need them so I won't get them now on principle. I'll just get it someday when it's free while buying another Bundle I really want and I don't see shenanigans happening.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,063
    jakiblue said:

    I mentioned before I’m pretty sure the HD add on is actually being used in the base promos, cos I’m not getting that definition when rendering the base. 

    XpiderMan said:
    Are the images used for the base figure the default (veins popping up,skin texture) or are they mixing images from an HD version? Thanks.

     

    I'm kicking myself now for not getting the HD morphs as one of the three addons. Somebody said it only came out to around $8.00.

    Rebuild your order in the cart. Add the HD Add-On. Take a screenshot. Buy a gift card for the amount (if you dont already have credit). Fill out a ticket requesting that it be added to your Product Library, attach the screenshot, and tell them the money's in your account. By next week, at the latest, you'll have it.

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,407
    GlenWebb said:
    Gogger said:

    I, for one, am not complaining about the sales. I got the ASHAN 8 Pro Bundle for 22 bucks. No, I didn't get any free Pro bundles, but I got a purple banner with a nice discount on what I actually wanted.  I got a lot of really amazing stuff at really amazing prices today.

    Thanks DAZ!

    Yeah, I'm not complaining. It was a very cheaply priced bundle. I loved just about everything in the bundle and the addons (no use for dForce hair unfortunately). The extra offers mean nothing to me. It was nice picking a free G8 bundle, but I'd still have grabbed Ashan's bundle regardless. It's the quality of the bundle which is the determining factor for me, not the deep discounts and sales. Of course we're all after something different. But I don't understand the confusion of the advertising. I thought the offers were quite clear. Did it not say "Choose One of the Following?"

    No, initially it did not. In fact it read like how people were finding they would load into the carts: buy this bundle get: 1 of this, 2 of these, 3 of those.

    n.b. that timeframe was very short and the pages were then changed to read as you've mentioned.

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,120
    edited June 2020

    Can't say I've ever seen an incentive that gives away SIX pro bundles for buying one...so when I tried it early this morning after seeing the initial comments in this thread, I knew it had to be a mistake. I'd be bummed if I missed it too...but it was quite clearly a mistake. No reason to get bent out of shape at Daz for fixing their mistake. Now if the ad had actually said "and" instead of "or" and then they didn't honor it, then yeah. 

    Sadly I don't have a way to prove if it was or not because I didn't feel the need to take a screenshot at the time, so yeah, I could be wrong (And cool! Now I will have the need to screenshot every sale). All I know is that I'm almost always awake at the time of the store's daily switch, so I check it out, get in the cart anything that interests me and go to sleep (because you also can miss good sales for buying too early! yay!). That was the case today and all I can say is that I understood it was all that so I got all the bundles in my cart, and how it's written now I don't think I would have thought I could get all those bundles. If I was the only one I would lean heavily on it being my mistake but I wasn't.

     

    AFAIK the offer was written correctly from the start (or at least since I first saw it). However, people misread it and added all the bundles, thereby discovering and sharing the news of the glitch. The glitch was in effect while I was building my cart but I didn't check out. Later on, the glitch was fixed so that the offer worked as intended. I purchased as intended with only a G8 bundle in my cart because 1) it's a great bundle 2) it's a great deal for me 3) the offer worked as advertised.

    Just as glitches work in favor of DAZ but they get corrected. So too should the glitches in favor of the customers should be corrected just as swiftly. Daz is, after all, a business. So while I understand your frustration, it's important to also understand that the offer mentioned an "choose one" not "choose all". Therefore there was no false advertising done here. :)

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680
    edited June 2020

    Ashan looks pretty good. His head's on the narrow side so I widened it slightly. It is a bit odd, he has such a narrow head when his body is fairly broad. He also really is a into brow plucking and shaping which I find kinda tiresome. But the skin is totally awesome, and no real complaints, except I prefer men with natural brows.

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  •  

    AFAIK the offer was written correctly from the start (or at least since I first saw it). However, people misread it and added all the bundles, thereby discovering and sharing the news of the glitch. The glitch was in effect while I was building my cart but I didn't check out. Later on, the glitch was fixed so that the offer worked as intended. I purchased as intended with only a G8 bundle in my cart because 1) it's a great bundle 2) it's a great deal for me 3) the offer worked as advertised.

    Just as glitches work in favor of DAZ but they get corrected. So too should the glitches in favor of the customers should be corrected just as swiftly. Daz is, after all, a business. So while I understand your frustration, it's important to also understand that the offer mentioned an "choose one" not "choose all". Therefore there was no false advertising done here. :)

    "Glitches in favor of Daz" (ie. things having a price higher than they should) actually will hurt their business more than really be in favor, as they won't get as many sales as they could most of the time, so it's more obvious it being just a mistake.

    If it really was written like that from the beginning, yeah, it would be ok. But that's the thing: I don't think it was and, though I don't have proof, I wasn't the only one that read it (as the post above suggests) 

    Good that the (new) deal worked for you though. yes

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,407
    edited June 2020

    There is a preset for removing his brows and another character in the bundle has the fibre brows.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749

    There is a preset for removing his brows and another character in the bundle has the fibre brows.

    Am I the ONLY ONE seeing Crypt Keeper hair? Have I finally lost my mind? frown

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977

    This guy is tremendous, Dacre 

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  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    What on earth is wrong with that hair there? 

    There is a preset for removing his brows and another character in the bundle has the fibre brows.

     

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,715
    edited June 2020

    You shouldn't have to, but select Atlas Hair and then click on the "Preview On" property file and then it renders.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    jakiblue said:

    What on earth is wrong with that hair there? 

    There is a preset for removing his brows and another character in the bundle has the fibre brows.

     

    THANK YOU! lol I'm cracking up laughing here. I'm seeing people posting images with this hair but not saying boo about the weirdness of the hair... like "la la this is a perfectly normal render". lol I'm like: "what is happening here?". :P ROFL

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    ah ok. I didn't install that hair - I don't like it so don't want to use it. Didn't realise that is the one that was posted.  

    You shouldn't have to, but select Atlas Hair and then click on the "Preview On" property file and then it renders.

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749

    You shouldn't have to, but select Atlas Hair and then click on the "Preview On" property file and then it renders.

    Thank you, Phoenix1966! :) I don't own the hair but I'm sure others who do appreciate the quick-fix option. Hopefully, the product will get updated with a fix. :)

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,715

    No problem. I know the frustration of getting a new toy and not being able to play with it properly right away.

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,407

    Yeah, the hair loads looking weird like that. IMHO items should load 'normally' so we don't freak out when seeing stuff like this lol ...

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