Announcing The Platinum Club Plus [Beta] Program
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Greetings,
So!
Here's what I did.
First, I had 5 PC items on my wishlist (mostly $16.95 base price). They are now safely ensconced in My Library.
Next, I downloaded my wishlist and ran a function on it to figure out the total amount (some DO items, mostly PA items) that it summed to.
Then, I converted to PC+.
Finally, I downloaded my wishlist again, running the same function.
NOTE: Because I removed existing PC items, this is not necessarily going to have the same results for everyone else. If you still have PC items in your wishlist, it will likely bump up more than it bumps down.
My total wishlist cost went from $1,437.38 to $1,429.90. A difference of $7.48, in my favor.
And I now have two more coupons for use this month. So...a win, for me. We'll see longer term how that fares, and a lot will depend on the PC items that get released over the next handful of weeks.
I'll comment later about my feelings about the changes, but at the core the fact that this means they could buy out a Stonemason or someone similar's Mega Piece that runs $50 in the store, and I'd see it as a PC+ item for $10.50-ish, has some REALLY fascinating potential. Seeing the club expand in that direction is a very tempting thing. The value prop is harder to explain than '$1.99...in perpetuity', but I really like the idea of being able to do bigger PC+-specific buyouts, and I can completely understand that is totally impossible under the current pricing scheme.
Also, if I were still asking what I was asking for income 10 years ago, I'd be in a bad way too... :)
-- Morgan
Well, I am trying out the beta at the moment - there is nothing really to lose.
My personal guess is that I won't buy PC items that much anymore as the whole 1.99$ pricing is a lot about impulse buying for me. It won't be like that anymore, so I will have a closer look at the PC items and may pick fewer items there. With regards to the percentages I agree with a few others who stated that all this stacking / not-stacking and discount here another discount there with different rules gets quite confusing and about as enthusiastic for me as filling out tax forms. The non-beta PC is quite charming with the one price fits all model in that regard, but I can understand that it is not viable in the long run nor necessarily fair.
I was just wondering about the "based on customer surveys" thing.
I never got a survey... don't remember getting one, anyway. Don't remember filling one out and submitting it...
Platinum Club, as it now stands, pre-beta, has been very beneficial. I can say that, barring PC prices, I wouldn't have purchased anything like the volume of models I now have. That's for Sales to consider. I wouldn't have purchased a tenth of what I have, if the price had been a pre-join price.
And it's quite a library I have now. Prior to joining, I bought a few PC items at the $6.99 price, instead of the $1.99 price I got after joining. I got a lot of those. Do I need a lot of those models? Perhaps, perhaps not, but I have a bit of the collector in me, and the 2 bucks made it possible to get models I just sort of liked, instead of only the ones I really needed for a current or planned future project. That's for Marketing to consider. Sales from me increased exponentially BECAUSE of the $1.99 price tag. What's better, a higher price and 50-90% reduction in sales, or a lower price and 50-90% increase in sales?
Beyond a certain point, which I passed a while back, I have already more models than I can realistically utilize.
That said, I would be happy to see PC artists, like Jack and Jen, and Petipet, and, and, and, great content artists all, getting taken care of. Getting their models and shaders, etc, at two bucks a shot has never seemed fair to them. I assumed that the combined PC fee was working to their advantage, some % going their way, too. Some better incentive than $2.00. But of course, it is $2 times the number of buyers, which conceivably is a big number of two buckers adding up.
That's not my business, though. I can say that 75% of the PC items I've purchased, because I liked them at the time, or I like the artists' work, never get used at all. Nice to have for future work, maybe. At double the price, I'm likely to buy half as much, or less.
I would like to think about how to best address the needs of the PA's and PC staffers, but I don't see this PC+ beta addressing those real issues at all.
What's in it for you, Jack? Jen? Petipet? Are going to do better for yourselves in this program? Is Daz going to take better care of you with any increased revenues from PC+?
If there's nothing in it for you, and diminishing returns on what I get for my PC fee, I see no point.
I have my doubts that those PA's who rarely participate in sales will suddenly opt in. Others will opt in to see if it offers them a larger market share. If it proves to be a losing proposition, vendors will opt out.
Yep, and they may not opt in, but if the BETA proves fruitful we may be pleasantly surprised. Or not. Again, only time will tell.
Greetings,
OH NO! I was testing stuff out, and I tried my PC+ coupon on my cart, but then I eliminated everything but the freebies (Gated Courtyard and Weazel) and bought...but I didn't remove my coupon! Now it's telling me the coupon is invalid...!
HALP!
-- Morgan
[Edit: And, indeed, it's telling me on the Platinum Club page under My Account that I used my coupon on the order where everything was free! I'm an idiot, I know, but I hadn't thought it would actually take the coupon away when it wasn't used to pay for anything in the order! (Actually, I forgot it was there entirely!)]
This is not true.
This only became the norm with DAZ Studio 4.5.
As recently as 2011 I paid for DAZ Studio 4.5 when it first came out. The sales strategy switched shortly after that and refunds were issued.
Edited to add:
The strategy has waffled back and forth. Entirely free, free for a while, free only for PC members, free except for some functions, or not free at all.
Sorry, not the case. The base has always been free. DS3 Advanced was for pay. DS4 Standard was free because the lower versions were not avaialble. I have them in my purchase history. I paid for DS4 Pro upgrade from DS3Advanced when Pro was released. DAZ placed the 4.5 version in my product library because it was a free upgrade from 4 to 4.5. Which version of 4.5 did you purchase?
The sales strategy switched in early February a couple of years ago. Refunds were issued by those who had purchased higher versions of DS4/4.5 upon request of the buyers. Not everyone who paid for the software asked for a refund.
why have a pc membership at all? make stacking discounts for everbody, total income for daz might be higher.
make bigger fastgrabs. - with more variety in it.
I have purchased:
DAZ Studio 2 (2008)
DAZ Studio 3 Advanced (2009)
DAZ Studio 4 (2011)
DAZ Studio 4 Auto Fit Tool (2011)
DAZ Studio 4.5 Pro (2011)
All had prices associated with them at the time of purchase. Some were later refunded; DAZ Studio 4 on. The rest were not. Some were extremely costly (DAZ Studio 3), some were not (DAZ Studio 2).
And, I believe there was a fee involved for the original DAZ Studio when it went from Beta to an official release. But those early purchases of mine don't appear in my Product Library. I didn't go searching through my order history to find them.
DS 4.5 should not have had a price associated with it - only the initial launch of DS4Pro/Advanced were charged for, it became free before 4.5 (and I'm pretty sure if it hadn't been it would have been free for 4.0 users). If you were charged for 4.5 you should probably open a support ticket, though it may be a bit late now.
Ah, you are right. Had to go digging through my order history. It was the Auto Fit tool that was $100, not DS4.5.
Edited to add:
I wonder if I can get my money back on my Zygote Costume CD. The CD cracked sometime last year. :)
Edited a second time to add:
Going through my order history is incredibly depressing. I can't count the number of times I said "I paid how much for that? Did I ever even use that?"
ok... this sucks... I was giving the PC+ a try and now my order is MORE than when I wasn't a +member... (See below)... I guess I won't be buying any more PC items this month :( ... BE WARNED... once you say yes.. you CAN"T leave... I guess i'll be saving money this month.. too bad for DAZ (sighs)
p.s.... the hair WAS 1.99 before I clicked opt in... Now I'm gonna toss it out the window. (sad face)
Oh.. this also means since I don't buy any PC items this month.. I won't be entering the PC contest either since you need the PC item of the week to enter the contest... GOOD LUCK everyone!
llolalane, one of the new coupies can't help you with the total?
i'm not opting in, don't understand the intricacies.
I've added the same items with the regular PC-Club discount, for comparision.
It's the difference between the old PC price and the new policy for PCbeta
With the PC Plus instead of PC items all being $1.99 or $2.99 for value items, you get a discount of 70%. Not so bad on new PC items as the 30% and added 70% take them almost the regular PC pricing (still a bit higher though). However, any PC items that are no longer considered new are now 70% off. Hair that used to run $1.99 is now running just over $5.00. PIA.
The coupons can't be used on new items, and the hair is a new item. That said, shouldn't it be around 4.38 rather than the price displayed (30% new discount plus 70% PC discount)?
if they make the beta the new deal, we haz to get used to it, i guess.
I just wanted to say Thank You for offering that Freebie for the PC beta. That is very kind of you and I will surely enjoy it like I do all your stuff. So thank you again.
That is correct Lee.. WHY would I pay $3.10 MORE for an item??? I'm such a dummy... I didn't realize til too late.. BE WARNED EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!
pay $3.10 more to help support the Published Artists. :)
The coupons can't be used on new items, and the hair is a new item. That said, shouldn't it be around 4.38 rather than the price displayed (30% new discount plus 70% PC discount)?
The intro discount of 30% would be for the first 2 weeks, so it's in that grey area of being within the 60days, but older than 2 weeks.
Your larger point not lost, however with respect to trend analysis - it may be possible. Few years back I worked on a project with even dirtier and less consistant data yet trend detection was made possible with even as few as 4 sequential data points using a variant of this regression algorithm: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/medg/projects/maita/documents/trends/segmental-trends.pdf
With the PC Plus instead of PC items all being $1.99 or $2.99 for value items, you get a discount of 70%. Not so bad on new PC items as the 30% and added 70% take them almost the regular PC pricing (still a bit higher though). However, any PC items that are no longer considered new are now 70% off. Hair that used to run $1.99 is now running just over $5.00. PIA.
if you want the hair with the colours, is gonna cost 10.00. colors base price 10.95, so not quite 10.
It's still in beta and it's still voluntary at the moment. If you want to keep the current PC pricing and don't care all that much about the other offers (whether you consider them perks or not is a matter of personal opinion), then don't opt in.
If they do decide to go this route, they will have to give you the option to end your membership and pro-rate whatever time you have left on your membership. Or you can keep what's left of your membership and decide if you want to renew when it's time. Whatever you decide is your decision. DAZ can only set the terms of things.
it's a NEW item Misty... so no.. it doesn't bring it back down to the 1.99 price... I'm stuck now... I'm stupid stupid... I'm so mad at myself for saying yes to OPT IN now... Don't know WHAT DAZ is thinking??? (sighs) Guess I'll be saving my money... I WILL miss the weekly PC contest though. :(
if you want the hair with the colours, is gonna cost 10.00. colors base price 10.95, so not quite 10.
Edit: Actually ignore me.. it's been a long day.
Admittedly it's a little late, but since you're committed now, have a read of this entire thread if you haven't already.. hopefully it will help you understand our reasoning behind this.
The intro discount of 30% would be for the first 2 weeks, so it's in that grey area of being within the 60days, but older than 2 weeks.
So to add to the general confusion, there is a six week period where only the 70% discount and no coupon applies. Fun. wow.
The intro discount of 30% would be for the first 2 weeks, so it's in that grey area of being within the 60days, but older than 2 weeks.
So to add to the general confusion, there is a six week period where only the 70% discount and no coupon applies. Fun. wow.
It's the same as what currently applies to brokered items.. you have an intro discount, and then a period where coupons and discounts don't apply. While new to the PC items, it's certainly nothing new to the rest of the DAZ store.
It's still in beta and it's still voluntary at the moment. If you want to keep the current PC pricing and don't care all that much about the other offers (whether you consider them perks or not is a matter of personal opinion), then don't opt in.
If they do decide to go this route, they will have to give you the option to end your membership and pro-rate whatever time you have left on your membership. Or you can keep what's left of your membership and decide if you want to renew when it's time. Whatever you decide is your decision. DAZ can only set the terms of things.
depends if is worth the monthly fee (still 7.95 so far).
the entire back catalog more than doubling price? :roll: hotel sierra. not about to make a run on the back catalog either.