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"There exists no noun which cannot be verbed." Bill Waterson, as Calvin.
"rediculous"... Isn't that a Hogwart's spell incantation for dispelling boggarts?
Well, there is that, but we're not trying to sell them cool-aid :)
...one of my stories has a major portion of it that takes place in the UK, but so few vehicles in the store here (and even over at Rendo) have right hand drive, even those which are knockoffs of ones made in England. Scaling the mesh -100% does swap what side the controls are on, but then anything with numbers or letters on it is backwards as well.
...when it comes to rants, few can hold a candle to those of Mr. John Cleese.
But, Basil Fawlty is a close second. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFMpySg_UrM
As someone who's been teaching English internationally in three countries in the last decade, I just see catchy slogans and language that changes with technology and world. I don't think its meant to dumb anything down (see? Dumb is a noun and a verb!) just to make things catchy and appealing in a time where people scroll thru headlines fast and only grab main words. When you're browsing on your phone on the go and just grab a couple words, make them catchy. Seems pretty straight forward for the times and advertising. :) Besides, headlines and slogans are in a different zone when it comes to grammar. Space is a premium. So is focus when flipping through ads and pages online. It makes sense to condense.
I hate to sound like a complete fool, but what does 'finna' mean? I tried guessing, (really!), but got nowhere.
Of course, the last time I looked at my Facebook page was um.... a long time ago.
"fitting to", which if you're not familiar with the vernacular of the American South, is "meaning to" or "planning to".
Whoa! I'd never have guessed that in a million years! You learn something every day. Thanks!
DisparateDreamer: Those are decent enough reasons, I won't argue with that. Depends on what's being advertised though, if I go into the hospital and see a sign that says "Time to Doctor!", I'll try treating my problem at home. ;)
Gordig: Do people actually say 'finna' out loud? I've never heard it spoken, only online or in texts and only fairly recently. I guess I won't give it such a hard time if it's been established for a while.
While I have mixed feelings about using a noun as a verb, I do think "tech" would be the wrong word either way.
"Fixing to" actually.
Well, we might all be greasing the downward slide, but in this social media computer age, "friending" has become a popular term. Surely a failing cause for the decline of the English language. Do people know where when and where this term was first recorded???
Hamlet, by William Shakespeare.
So, gentlemen,
With all my love I do commend me to you:
And what so poor a man as Hamlet is
May do, to express his love and friending to you,
God willing, shall not lack.
There are multiple examples as Shakespeare was well known, and a prime villain of using nouns and creating verbisms to pollute the English language, many of which have been spoken ever since. Has that really contributed to a downward language slide??? I 'accessed' my computer, 'googled' the terms, 'downloaded' the results, and 'xeroxed' the printout.
With all due respect, I guess its for every person for each and own to decide.
The beauty of all rules (art, authorship, writing) is to know them, and break them.
So many of my pet peeves mentioned here but I have to say that using "your" when you mean "you're" is just wrong. It is not a manner of speaking or a regional oddity, it is just using the wrong word. Starting every sentence with "so" is another one that raises my blood pressure - it is especially prevalent among academics and science students. One that jumps to mind although it is less of a bother to me is the use of "less" instead of "fewer". Of course, I've been on the receiving end of similar rants in the past - I remember (thankfully a long time ago) being corrected for spelling definitely as "definately". I had been doing so since my school days and the experience of being corrected by a colleague was truly embarrassing.
I think that the normal forum etiquette whereby we refrain from correcting people is as it should be but it is nice to have a thread like this so that everyone can air their rants.
I thought we were all agreed on "ur" for both?
Oh, I must have missed that ... is it too late to object?
ur bugs me on so many levels
I like English muffins.
"The beauty of all rules (art, authorship, writing) is to know them, and break them."
I prefer following the rules and just trying to make the end result be something that others may not have seen before. Not all rules need breaking.
Yeah, but I have doubts about the "knowing the rules" part most of the time.
I shall now spend the day deciding whether it is more conducive to my self-image to consider myself a Daz Stud or a Daztard. I shall spend some time in my studdy doing just that.
If I had to add my own pet peeve, I really hate those who make a potentially aggressive or personal comment and then seek to dissipate its heat with a smiley face.
Oh me too! I just want to grind them into the dust.
I note that those here who agree with the OP's position aren't necessarily grammar nazis but those of the older generations, myself included. It grates (verb) with me when I see "then" used as "than" and "should of" rather than "should have", but I can live with all that as long as the meaning remains clear. The purpose of written language to only to convey an idea to another person so correct spelling and grammar don't really matter as long as the message gets across.
The Rona might be getting to some of you. Chill. There are far, far worse things going on regarding dumbificatiin all around us. Things that in comparison make this rant trivial and even meaningless (which it is even on it’s own merits, but I won’t get into linguistic functionality, comparative linguistic analysis, transactional analysis, other linguistic precedents, thinking outside of the box, humor, creativity, and their usefulness, etc). Perspective is everything in life. Remember that if you want a relatively adjusted, sane and doable life.
Surprised you got away with "wibble" on a public forum.
isn't that what Wombles do?
Greetings,
So my streams crossed a bit and I ran into this Twitter post, just before reading this thread; I'm quoting from a Twitter user, '@ChariotDaGawd' who said (with some clarifications by me):
So...to translate, just a little bit:
That's a jargon. A specialized form of language used by people engaged in a specific field. Being comfortable with jargons, which is necessary to operate in a large number of fields, makes it easy to be more...flexible, about language use.
...but I love Myke Cole's well-expressed confusion here. ;)
Just as another example, we use 'render' to describe generating an image from 3D objects. But 'render' has a whole long history which has nothing to do with its current use, except in the vaguest sense. Although honestly, with how it affects my CPU and GPU, 'melt down' is probably the closest early meaning. ;) (Our modern use of 'render' probably comes from an early meaning of 'translate', as in an english rendering of a latin text, through 'artistic rendering' where an artist translates a concept to a picture, down to our usage.)
If one wants a language whose expansion is strongly controlled, and limited, then one could use French, in which a government body had to decide on a word for what the rest of us call 'email', and decided on (if I recall correctly) courriel.
But I like and feel a kinship for the bastard and evolving language that is English, with all its octopii, octopuses, and octipodes. And I have literally supported verbing nouns forever.
-- Morgan
I HATE that one, it irritates me to no frigging end. It is not that hard to use the proper word request, it is not even hard to spell...