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I see your umlauts, and raise you one Squirrel.
Reminds me of the character in the Persisher's cartoon strip, (from memory) called Baby Grumplin' who had a boss-eyed teddy bear he called Gladly. When asked why he said, "it's what we sing in chursh, 'Gladly, my cross-eyed bear'"
Ah yes, Tony Capstick was a local. I didn't know him personally but he lived on the same street as a good friend of mine. Incidentally, he's "poshed-up" the dialogue there for national consumption. Anyone watching northern soaps would be able to follow that, I'd imagine.
That character in Kes could have been based on my school life - I recognise so much of it. Especially the scenes on the sports field in freezing winter weather with inadequate sports kit and insane sports teacher.
I traced family history as far back as I could. I discovered that my grandfather was listed as a child in a workhouse in Newark, Nottinghamshire in the 1870's. He died before I was born, killed in a German bombing raid during WW2.
...it's all in the enunciation and sometimes the playback system and/or recording quality as well.
A lyric from a famous Rolling Stones song often sounded more like "I'll never see your pizza burning" instead of "I'll never be your beast of burden", particularly on a a cheap jukebox.
Classic riff on that theme here ...
..that's good.
Is that a biscuit?
Bloody hell, I missed that - and would have been perfectly happy to go on missing it.
Yeah, I remember the frustration of my Linguistics professors, whenever someone brought up rules and dictionaries. "That's not how those work! They're descriptive not prescriptive!"
People always seem to put a pin in the way everyone was speaking during their childhood and then everything that differs from that is an abberation. As if back then people had juuuust finally figured out the 'right' way to speak.
As a german, I always feel tempted to ask those ranting about how nobody is able to 'correctly' speak german any more if they themselves say 'Liebe' or 'Minne', 'Grille' or 'fixe Idee'...
Language Evolves...
take a Time Machine. go back to Elizabethan England... and try to communicate.... yup. it's English. really. it is.....
The Evolution hasn't stopped... it's still going.
As a german, I still write "Delphin" instead of "Delfin" (the same with many other changes of the Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung that I continue to ignore) because changes made due to people dumbing down or just being lazy are wrong in my opinion.
The thing about evolution is, that not every change it produces is fit for survival. So I see no need to happily welcome every dumb change, just because it's a change and some people think it's nice.
Not to forget that many changes to language are quite short-lived. They come up, stay for a while and then quietly disappear again, while the base construct of a language just shrugs it's imaginary shoulder and goes on.
Persunnaly I am a traditionallist - standerdised speling is a modren aberashun
Shakspere didunt nead it and nither do we
I apologise for my earlier moniker
DAZster is much more acceptable
As someone not native in english, and having used it in everyday work for the past 30+ years, seeing some native english speaker using phrases like "should of...", not only irritates but gives me a strong mental image of a neanderthal picking his nose with his hairy toe - Not exactly someone that could be trusted to do anything in today's business, where everything has to be written down and even the punctuation can make a big difference = Expensive.
When I started, there still were secretaries typing everyone's hand written letters and correcting them, but that is not the case anymore - I will forever remember as, instead of hand written notes, I gave the secretary a floppy and asked her to print the letter out... As I got back to my office, I heard the secretary yelling in excitement, "Hey Guys... Pertti writes his own letters..."
There's nothing wrong in making typing errors, using simple language and/or making mistakes if that is the level of the skill, even breaking the rules is ok, if that is relevant in the context, but using bad language due to being lazy or dumdum (handicapped people excluded) is worth some ranting... Maybe I'm just getting old...
DAZist or DAZler
I find that knowing other languages helps me to use my primary language better. For example, when I'm unsure of how a word is spelled in English, I'll sound out the equivalent in French or German in my head and have my answer.
Many issues I have with current discourse have to do with the writer's (or speaker's) lack of vocabulary. I suspect that the reason is the person hasn't read many good books and is attempting to go places their limited vocabulary can't take them. You can improve spatial awareness, acquire good hand-eye coordination and and, perhaps, even organizational and leadership skills playing MMORPGs and battle royales, but you won't expand your intellectual canvas that way. I'm more concerned about where that lack will lead society than about whether someone writes "ur" instead of "your".
The "should of" or "could of" issue comes from poor enunciation, murdering the word "have". Then by not reading enough and actually seeing the phrase in print, of course the error is propagated. And there are assassins who mutter "shoulda" or "coulda" which probably needs an apostrophe in there somewhere.
But of course, without the process of writing what we hear instead of what is written, we Americans would still be forcing a "u" into perfectly good words like "color".
That!
"Yes, Virginia. We're getting dumber" (paraphrased reference to the famous "Yes, Virginia. There is a Santa Claus" letter. https://www.newseum.org/exhibits/online/yes-virginia-there-is-a-santa-claus/ )
And yes, the point of view from other languages is immensely illuminating. I'm terrible at learning a language I stumble about the time I have to start actually understanding and responding in a conversation. I can recite written Spanish, German and Russian and discect simple written things like maps, menus, store signs, and movie subtitles & credits but don't practice enough to become conversational. HOWEVER, the scattered vocabulary of Spanish, Italian, French, German and Russian that I've picked up over the decades gives me a richness of understanding about word derivations, cultural linkages and language usage. I strongly recommend that all Americans, study at least one other language other than English. If only to throw light onto the numbing concepts of language structure that the poor English teacher in highschool tried to drum into our heads. (i.e. "who needs all this crap about clauses, subjective, intransitive, participles, adjectives, etc. ") When you see how they work in other languages then suddenly their purpose in English starts to make sense.
And yes, the very young fall into a language easier than an adult, but it's never too late to at least get wet. I started picking up Russian in my late sixties. Each new language that I studied added another dimension to my language thought patterns. At most, I read stutteringly as well as a 5 year old in anything but English, but it has enriched my grokking of the world immensely. And I'm still surprised when I realize that I just heard a phrase in a movie in Spanish, German or Russian and understood the salient words without thinking or reading the subtitles. And just for fun I love pausing spy movies and reading the Russian signs and instrument gauges in the background.
"Should've, could've, would've!" :)
That's funny, cause I do the same thing, can't even get used to 'Westfalen', it looks so weird ^^; That being said, isn't not learning the 'new' way also kind of being lazy? Can't really see how me not fully adepting to the 'Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung' makes me better in any way. And I certainly don't thing 'ph' is inherently superior to 'f'.
You're right, though, that many developments are short-lived, in language and otherwise. But then again, what isn't in the face of history? Everything humans create is just a short trend.
Also people have been bemoaning the inferiority of the next generation and the fall of 'true' civilazation for as long as we have recorded history, so I guess we can't even imagine how utterly idiotic and primitive we would like in the eyes of, like, stone-age humans. Have to write down everything like imbeciles, because we're too dumb for oral history like actually enlightened beings.
Spanish, probably, as y'all are going to need it in the future
It's not that I didn't learn the "new way", it's just that I don't want to use and so I don't use it. I could use it, and in some cases even do, when the change was logical...
..not sure I want to be mistakne for a Super Hero from the Disco Era:
..one of the worst things to happen to language recently has been texting (along with auto-correct).
I have evolved:
The Mavante First Law of English Language Abuse: If one, in the course of public forum discussion, calls attention to the misuse or abuse of any form or part of the English language, then within three posts someone will chime in with a vociferous defense or "justification" of said misuse or abuse—regardless of how ignorant, obtuse, illiterate, or perverse the cited offense.
The Mavante Second Law of English Language Abuse: Often, absent moderator intervention, the person so pointing out such misuse or abuse of the English language will be called a "grammar Nazi," thereby invoking and proving the truth of Godwin's Law.
Actually auto-correct is probably the only thing these days preventing English from being reduced to absolutely incoherent gibberish. People can't spell worth squat *with it*, imagine without.
Mavante, just remove the references to English and the "grammar" from "grammar Nazi" and those are already the rules of the internet. ;)
My brother's a smart, creative, industrious guy and I desperately admire his ability to manipulate matter (be it wood or metal) and make ingenious useful things of it, but he can't spell for squat! I on the other hand, think deep thoughts and find the logic, reason and connectedness in ideas. And despite finger-fumbling am pretty good at spelling. In our twilight years we've seemed to have given up our sibling rivalry, I need matter manipulated and he needs someone to demystify computer logic. All I have to do is decipher his spelling. We live in the same area so consequently we do very little textual communication. Which simplifies things greatly.
"What today’s doomsayers fail to notice is that the very trends they deplore consist in oral media—radio, telephones, and television—giving way to written ones. Not so long ago it was radio and television that were said to be ruining the language. More than ever before, the currency of our social and cultural lives is the written word. And no, not all of it is the semiliterate ranting of Internet trolls. A little surfing will show that many Internet users value language that is clear, grammatical, and competently spelled and punctuated, not just in printed books and legacy media but in e-zines, blogs, Wikipedia entries, consumer reviews, and even a fair proportion of email. Surveys have shown that college students are writing more than their counterparts in earlier generations did, and that they make no more errors per page of writing. And contrary to an urban legend, they do not sprinkle their papers with smileys and instant-messaging abbreviations like IMHO and L8TR, any more than previous generations forgot how to use prepositions and articles out of the habit of omitting them from their telegrams. Members of the Internet generation, like all language users, fit their phrasing to the setting and audience, and have a good sense of what is appropriate in formal writing." - The Sense of Style by Steven Pinker
Steven Pinker can make anything sound AOK.