Holt 8: The West Gone Wild / Weird

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  • Damsel said:

     

    Also, I got the entire package of weird/wild west, and I only got $10 in store credits. So I'm off to file a ticket.

    So be aware.

    Hmm, I bought both bundles togerther but I haven't gotten any credit yet. However, I wasn't expecting any credit yet because according to the ad it won't be credited until tomorrow.

    Are you sure the $10 credit you are seeing is because of your purchase of the two bundles? If so, did you purchase both bundles in the same order?

    As far as I know the credit is due to be issued tomorrow, not today.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,181
    The price in my cart nearly doubled a bit ago
  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    Damsel said:

     

    Also, I got the entire package of weird/wild west, and I only got $10 in store credits. So I'm off to file a ticket.

    So be aware.

    Hmm, I bought both bundles togerther but I haven't gotten any credit yet. However, I wasn't expecting any credit yet because according to the ad it won't be credited until tomorrow.

    Are you sure the $10 credit you are seeing is because of your purchase of the two bundles? If so, did you purchase both bundles in the same order?

    As far as I know the credit is due to be issued tomorrow, not today.

    When I bought Honni Bundle on August 15, I received the store credit on August 16th.  There are three offers in messages and one is for $10 credit. Other is for $30. Is it possible the one bundle is populating early and they will add $20 more tomorrow?

     

     

  • kimhkimh Posts: 389
    daveso said:
    The price in my cart nearly doubled a bit ago

    Mine too. I was set to order both bundles after work and now one of the bundles doubled in price. It's not worth it now

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    kimh said:
    daveso said:
    The price in my cart nearly doubled a bit ago

    Mine too. I was set to order both bundles after work and now one of the bundles doubled in price. It's not worth it now

    Well they are getting there. Just need the latter fixed.

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,181
    It's always something at this store, very frustrating
  • DMaxDMax Posts: 637

    DAZ is probably fixing the download issues at the back end , I would expect the earlier prices to revert soon.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,053

    The prices are back to normal for me.

  • DMaxDMax Posts: 637

    Could somebody who has made the purchase kindly confirm that all the earlier install/usage issues have been resolved? I really don't want to get involved in writing up any post-purchase support tickets, let alone messing up DIM and/or Central.

  • This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Eli does ;-)

    This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Oh good. That's one for sure. Thank you, I really like him so even if I pass on the bundle I'll definitely get him. yes

    I asked earlier and got confirmation on Eli, but does  Seven have anatomical elements textures? The page doesn't specify and I won't assume anything a this point. Thanks.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,723
    edited August 2020

    Quick test animation of Holt 8 dressed in Western Brawler clothes.

    https://www.daz3d.com/holt-8

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-western-brawler-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    edited August 2020
    Redz said:
    Drip said:

    The Weird West bundle more or less requires Holt, and thus the Wild West bundle. That said, I really like Holt and its characters. Most of them have what I consider regular shapes, instead of the way too common way too buff characters (with only two or three notable exceptions). The faces are pieces of art as well, each distinct in its own way, but still believable.

    Hairs look fairly usable as well.
    As for the clothes, well, Wild West isn't really my thing, so I didn't investigate those very thoroughly, but I'm sure I will find some kitbashable odds and ends with them.

    3 purple banners bring down the prices to $34.57 and $34.56 respectively, which doesn't seem too bad.

    Just to clarify, the Old Jeb character doesn't require the Holt 8 base. Holt is listed as a required character, but that is an error.

    Truth is I own a bunch of stuff offered here and plan to bypass this offer but for anyone who doesn't own the Daz Horse and other redundent products offered in both bundles, it's a great deal because you can't go wrong with the Daz Horse. The only item that atrracts me is Jeb not enough to justify the bundle purchase. I plan to pass. For those of you wondering what the ROI or bottom cost is, here's the screen shot. This is what both bundles will cost those with purple banners, after deducting the 30 dollar credit. I bailed because of the inferior quality of some of the clothing items & textures (had same problem with Honni bundle but the deal was better so I folded) and the fact that I own items offered in both bundles is a deterent/turn-off. I am not a big fan of older products offered in new releases. Maybe marketing has done a thorough analysis of wishlisted unowned products, or maybe marketing has read posts about how the amount of products offered in  Pro Bundles (not that this is one) has dimenished over the years. Either way it is a copout. Not a great marketing ploy. Maybe offer three bundles. One for old stuff a majority of Daz users own for new users who don't, and a better bundle for those of us who have who expect to see something exciting and new. I spent years in marketing and one thing I learned is it is easier to sell repeat clients (the bread) vs  inticing new ones the butter. In marking those are the only two condiments available. an without bread butter is useless.

    If you get 30 bucks off

    Edit: and for any haters out there. I know bread is not a condiment. I used it as a figure of speech.

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  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 2,001

    This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Eli does ;-)

    This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Oh good. That's one for sure. Thank you, I really like him so even if I pass on the bundle I'll definitely get him. yes

    I asked earlier and got confirmation on Eli, but does  Seven have anatomical elements textures? The page doesn't specify and I won't assume anything a this point. Thanks.

     

    Yes, Seven does come with anatomical elements textures.  Note there is no separate anatomical elements material preset, but is applied with the seven !skin.duf hierarchical full body material preset.

  • achimsachims Posts: 77
    edited August 2020

     

    DMax said:

    Could somebody who has made the purchase kindly confirm that all the earlier install/usage issues have been resolved? I really don't want to get involved in writing up any post-purchase support tickets, let alone messing up DIM and/or Central.

    Well, just started DIM and DAZ Studio, to see if there are any updates. But NO! Still wrong / missing Icons/Images, wrong Filetypes / Metadata? Products in "Lost and Found" and so on. 

    Maybe i'll see updates the next day? https://images.app.goo.gl/o48oZLQXJPihq78T7

    Shopping experience =  "Little Shop of horror"  

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  • Lindsey said:

    This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Eli does ;-)

    This is probably a weird question, but do Eli and Seven even have anatomical elements textures? Their pages don't specify and I won't assume anything a this point.

     

    Oh good. That's one for sure. Thank you, I really like him so even if I pass on the bundle I'll definitely get him. yes

    I asked earlier and got confirmation on Eli, but does  Seven have anatomical elements textures? The page doesn't specify and I won't assume anything a this point. Thanks.

     

    Yes, Seven does come with anatomical elements textures.  Note there is no separate anatomical elements material preset, but is applied with the seven !skin.duf hierarchical full body material preset.

    Thank you! smiley

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,062

    Many Daz customers have come to expect that products (especially Core Figure bundles) will have issues upon release. And if it's male wear, some of those issues will never be fixed. It seems to have become "the culture."

  • DMaxDMax Posts: 637
    achims said:
     

    Well, just started DIM and DAZ Studio, to see if there are any updates. But NO! Still wrong / missing Icons/Images, wrong Filetypes / Metadata? Products in "Lost and Found" and so on. 

    Maybe i'll see updates the next day? https://images.app.goo.gl/o48oZLQXJPihq78T7

    Shopping experience =  "Little Shop of horror"  

    Ooohhh... ok then I shall hold off on clicking the purchase button.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,872
    xyer0 said:

    Many Daz customers have come to expect that products (especially Core Figure bundles) will have issues upon release. And if it's male wear, some of those issues will never be fixed. It seems to have become "the culture."

    I think so. I returned the whole Scar 8 Pro bundle and all the freebies I got with it, because none of the help requests I submitted about content problems were fixed. I just gave up. I haven't purchased Holt. It sounds too frustrating. Maybe if the problems get resolved, I 'll take another look. I'm sad that my purchasing at the Daz store dries up to almost nothing, because of all the problems and the fact that every help request goes into the bottomless pit of the "bug tracker", never to be heard of again. sadI have a lot of store credit. I'd like to find something worth spending it on.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    Holt 8 had eyebrows listed as 'facial hair' and 10 eyebrow color options. I haven't been able to find them. I suspect those are the missing files that cause it to show in 'Lost and Found'.

     

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317
    edited August 2020

    I just finished my render of Holt 8 and the dForce Sunset Rider Outfit and Textures. He is standing in the Hacienda Hermosa. I must say, the outfit is wonderful to work iwth and when the render started to form, the dirt came visible. I wasn't expecting it and was so pleased. I played with all the textures and just mixed them up. The hair has a 'hat hair' option so RedzStudio, my thanks to you. 

    I like him a lot. Whoever sculpted him and did his textures, thank you.

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  • One more with Eli.

    (No "dingalings" were involved in the creation of this image. So if you "see" a dingaling, you're probably looking WAY too hard.)

  • Oh I can't wait!

    Holt,

    The City Gone Wild

    He decided to leave the West life and moved to the City :)

     

    Hopefully soon :D

  • mal3Imagerymal3Imagery Posts: 713
    edited August 2020

    Another render of City Man Holt.

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  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,062

    I just finished my render of Holt 8 and the dForce Sunset Rider Outfit and Textures. He is standing in the Hacienda Hermosa. I must say, the outfit is wonderful to work iwth and when the render started to form, the dirt came visible. I wasn't expecting it and was so pleased. I played with all the textures and just mixed them up. The hair has a 'hat hair' option so RedzStudio, my thanks to you. 

    I like him a lot. Whoever sculpted him and did his textures, thank you.

    That looks great! Although I'd have to substitute some other chaps for those thin, flat ones. May I suggest the superb Stoneworks shader series to pump some Iray life into the Hacienda? They will make it look fabulous, once you play with the tiling and turn on the displacement. Thanks for posting.

    barbult said:
    xyer0 said:

    Many Daz customers have come to expect that products (especially Core Figure bundles) will have issues upon release. And if it's male wear, some of those issues will never be fixed. It seems to have become "the culture."

    I think so. I returned the whole Scar 8 Pro bundle and all the freebies I got with it, because none of the help requests I submitted about content problems were fixed. I just gave up. I haven't purchased Holt. It sounds too frustrating. Maybe if the problems get resolved, I 'll take another look. I'm sad that my purchasing at the Daz store dries up to almost nothing, because of all the problems and the fact that every help request goes into the bottomless pit of the "bug tracker", never to be heard of again. sadI have a lot of store credit. I'd like to find something worth spending it on.

    I'm sorry to hear that. I was disappointed in Scar's skin, but I'm comparing them all to Dain, Dasan, Vladimir, & Nix. To me, Kwan, Ashan, Valentino, & Jonathan were pretty good, but Scar's skin looked flat, like the spec map was not done well. Daz can keep selling me Core Figures, but if they keep mucking up the Bundles, they're going to... nope---it doesn't make sense to buy a new Core Figure for ten to twenty dollars less than a bundle.

  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395

    hmmm since some peoples already bought both bundles, then it's time for my "famous question" for those peoples, please what is the poly count of the outfits and acessroies:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-western-brawler-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-sunset-rider-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/fire-marshall-accessories-for-holt-8-and-genesis-8-male

    https://www.daz3d.com/wild-west-accessories  (each object)

    https://www.daz3d.com/bankers-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

     

    if the poly count is not that bad then i would think in buy it.

  • achimsachims Posts: 77
    edited August 2020
    DMax said:
    achims said:
     

    Well, just started DIM and DAZ Studio, to see if there are any updates. But NO! Still wrong / missing Icons/Images, wrong Filetypes / Metadata? Products in "Lost and Found" and so on. 

    Maybe i'll see updates the next day? https://images.app.goo.gl/o48oZLQXJPihq78T7

    Shopping experience =  "Little Shop of horror"  

    Ooohhh... ok then I shall hold off on clicking the purchase button.

    Ok, DIM still doesn't show any updates but in DAZ Studio / Connect i see 9 Products got updates?!

     

    Wild West Accessories 

    Sawyer for Holt 8

    Holt 8 HD Add-On

    Banker's Outfit and Textures

    Western Brawler and Textures

    Sunset Rider Outfit and Textures

     

    Well i don't know what the Updates did, but ...

    still bad Metadata, wrong Filetypes showing? ( e.g. Banker's Outfit is showing Adjustment Morphs in Product>Lost and Found  ), no Product-Image  = Lost and Found.

    I can use the products and everything seems to work as it should, but in the Content Library and Smart content Pane it looks very ... modest

    Who is responsible for Metadata? 

     

    Maybe next time?!

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680
    edited August 2020

    Holt himself is a realistic figure.

    His body is on the ordinary/plain side to me, but where he shines is with his facial sculpt. That looks pretty cool.

    This look does not say gunfigther though to me. But maybe older guy?  His HD model loaded wtihout textures to the eyelashes. A minor irritation. 

    He's another figure with an older face, and a ripped looking body.

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  • from what I've read they've been offering horse 2 with a few bundles maybe there's a hint there maybe a horse 3 on the way oh that would be nice, while the iray add on does help still be nice for a horse3 and better add ons like reigns. Kinda funny though with Honni and Holt at least there were no g8 riding poses added in any of the pose packs ok there's something sortof in one of Honni's on a cylinder of sorts maybe that's meant to be. BUT again pushing for the natives next or very soon and again with them you can really do a weird bundle for them diving into their mythology and outfits wearing animal clothing and skeletons and then there's games like red dead redemtion undead nightmare and others oh and yeah riding horse poses so much content could create for us

  • ArtAngel said:
    Damsel said:

     

    Also, I got the entire package of weird/wild west, and I only got $10 in store credits. So I'm off to file a ticket.

    So be aware.

    Hmm, I bought both bundles togerther but I haven't gotten any credit yet. However, I wasn't expecting any credit yet because according to the ad it won't be credited until tomorrow.

    Are you sure the $10 credit you are seeing is because of your purchase of the two bundles? If so, did you purchase both bundles in the same order?

    As far as I know the credit is due to be issued tomorrow, not today.

    When I bought Honni Bundle on August 15, I received the store credit on August 16th.  There are three offers in messages and one is for $10 credit. Other is for $30. Is it possible the one bundle is populating early and they will add $20 more tomorrow?

     

     

    if you bought both bundles like me we get $30 credit, When I got Honni my $30 credit was in next day, haven't recieved my $30 from my 2 Holt bundles yet but with Honni a lot waited awhile before they got their credit from her so maybe same with Holt

  • Carola OCarola O Posts: 3,823

    For me the credits for Honni 8 took two days, though I suspect some of that may be caused by timezone differences. Haven't looked at the time in Utah yet, but have they actually changed day yet, or are they still at yesterday so to say?

     

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