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Firefox looks off, It also overides the 'code box font' with it's default 'Courier New' even though it's set not to.
I assume thats the default behavior without the Stylus extension and custom styling mentioned in my post since your screens use my post but I don't see the extension activated or the changes reflected. This is how it appears on my screen with the extension. As for the code and conmment box section you can exclude the tags from the list and override them separately.
Your's just happened to be the last post when I did the screencap. Yes, that's the default settings and 100% scaling with no appearance extensions.
Thanks! You saved my eyes!
Cool! I'm glad I can help some people
Ugh, I think it wouldn't be so bad if it was condensed a bit. It just seems like someone took the forums into photoshop and stretched it out lengthwise only or something like that to my eye lol
God that makes things so much less atrocious, thank you!
Is there any way to change the tracking at all, hiding somewhere that I'm just overlooking? Arial is so much better than the current Dazaster, but could do with a bit more spacing.
...tried that last night but it put the line way at the bottom. Seems to work now.
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As someone who's into typography a bit, I have to agree this font is too wide as a general reading font. I find it unpleasant to read in a forum. Don't mind it that much in the shop, although under the thumbnails for products we're already challenged for space so not sure why you'd want to use a wide font there either.
Just one question about the new font...
Why?
I'm not criticizing the choice... I'm also not, not criticizing the choice... quite honestly I don't think I really care... as far as I can tell the forums still have the same great all natural flavor, but are we getting more photons per ounce of forum than with the old font?...
Was it an accident?
Did the old font break and the manufacturer no longer sells replacement letters?
Did the old font just get so old it had to be taken to a farm upstate so it can live with other old fonts and play happily in the fields up there?
Was there a font recall due an outbreak salmonella tainted ampersands?
Was the old font let go because it was harassing DAZ employees and their pets?
Did it quit?
Did someone (presumably) in charge of making such decisions wake up one morning realizing that they hated the old font more than anything that ever existed and it just had to go?
Was it stolen?
I'm wondering how these sort of things occur... I get that it definitely makes me want to buy more content every time I look at its curvaceous form with its supple, yet firm and jiggly "Os", but the events leading to this decision can't just rest on the hope that exploiting people's latent fontaphilia will lead to higher sales of stuff.
There had to be something else.
I guess we will never know... but I had to ask... just like when that kid asked that scholarly owl "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?"...
Why would you ask an owl?
Are owls good at that sort of thing?
Was that kid stupid?... also that owl had no control and lied... but had that kid not asked that stupid question, a group of engineering students at Purdue University (I'm guessing they were chickens?) would not have built an artificial licking machine to let us know it's 364 licks... or 222... or 56,764... depending on what university decided to replicate the experiment in the name of science and the collective safety of mankind.
So hopefully some engineering students out there at Tyson or KFC University can build us a forum licking machine and perhaps solve this riddle so those of us who have been mildly puzzled by this thought can sleep at night.
They used Gotham for the product library and I believe also for the product pages, before. Now they seem to be using google's Roboto font site wide. Gotham is widely used on the web but very expensive, and requires a subscription based on page view. Roboto is free, maybe that's why they've shifted. Maybe they're going site wide, including the forums now, for consistency.
I installed Font Changer in Firefox and switched to Open Sans for Daz. Much easier on my eyes.
I'm feeling like you didn't assemble a complicated licking machine to arrive at that answer... which despite being rather disappointing is probably a good reason... it's not a lot of fun and certainly doesn't explain my unnatural attraction to these plump letters, but for now I'll accept that...
Well, until I can come up with some insane explanations that have sinister undertones... I'm already suspicious of the font being called "Roboto"... I'm gonna have to work a little "woo*" in there and see what kind of robot conspiracy I can hatch to explain that font name.
But nonetheless, thanks.
*Woo: (Slang) Derived from "Woo-woo", usually referring to insane beliefs, unfounded conspiracies and irrational explanations, mostly for attention or personal gain, but sometimes just plain old insanity.
Looks like a font for small children. As I type now on my iPad it looks normal but I’m guessing it will change as soon as I post...
+1 to hating this font. It's awful in the forums and worse in the store.
Roboto is not the problem. Poppins is the problem.
The font family is {font-family: "Poppins","Roboto",helvetica,sans-serif;} . Poppins comes first, so that's the one that gets loaded. That's the extra-wide font. Roboto is a more condensed font. It looks like Poppins is also the source of the perceived double-line spacing. See attached image.
Damned Poppins... I knew she was no magical nanny looking out for the welfare of mischievous children... who trusts their kids to some breezy tart that comes floating in on an umbrella?... Now look what she's done to our fonts... it's a shame it is!
Ironic, isn't it?
OK. I didn't check the CSS, just saw Roboto mentioned in the product page source so I just did a visual compare on googles page and they looked the same to me. There are soo many lookalike fonts out there that it sometimes can be hard to tell the difference just by looks (that's why I said "seem to be using").
Just replace her with a robot... :P
I like the new font!
Gave up and disallowed web pages to choose their own fonts.
Poppins is just too spread out for me to read at a glance.
EDIT: NOPE. That flocks up other web message boards that I visit. So, I guess I'll have to deal with this or participate less.
Anyone with the least bit of typography knowledge would not have chosen this combo. This is just a small step away from Comic Sans for me. Feels like an intern project gone wrong.
First with the NFT they gave me reasons to stop buying here, and now with this there is a reason to stop visiting this site. Is there *ANY* kind of QA in this place?
To my eye, Poppins is too wide for body text - It's wider than Arial while Roboto is narrower. The line spacing on Poppins is too great here. Increased line spacing enhances legibility, but too much and one needs an enormous space to differentiate paragraphs. That's where we're at with Poppins. I haven't looked on my phone, but this font might be painful there. Comparisons to Comic Sans seem overstated.
IMO, the fact that the font is so obtrusive should be a warning sign. Ideally, in a forum, we want to read and respond to posts. The font should deliver the information without extra drama. This font calls too much attention to itself. That makes it less than ideal.
For me the new website font had a positive side effect. One of the monitors I web browse the DAZ site is 1920 by 1200. If have the webpage tiled for half the screen at 100% zoom then it reflows the page to format that is less appealing to me.
With the old font if I reduced zoom to 90% the half screen size would page flow like full screen but the font would be a bit small for me.
With the new font a zoom at 90% actually is more readable then at 100%.
Now I view DAZ store and forum at 90% zoom on that monitor at half screen.
CORRECTION: 95% seems to be the sweetspot at 960 by 1200.
So a strange kind of win for me. Hurray me!
I just tried the DAZ store on my phone with DuckDuckGo and it was fine.
When I was a graphic artist it might be a font I'd use for one line like a title, but not for general reading. There's a reason why fonts like Helvetica and Arial are so popular for web pages, books and magazines.
There is one weird thing I see on my computer with Firefox. When I go to a forum page and click to the next page for about a second the whole page is blurry then it becomes sharp going from top to bottom. It reminds me of the DOS dinosaur days when loading a progressive JPEG and you could actually watch it fill the screen.