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Yep, I see two Dr. Whos, an '80s TV tropical private eye, an outfit for vacationing on Pandora, a young guy who's wearing his older sister's hand-me-downs, and...yeah that last one may have very well come from Saturn after all.
If those are the kinds of outfits that you want, that's fine - but you can't say DAZ isn't making "everyday male clothing" if that's what you're calling those. ;)
In general most runway stuff doesn't do it for me either. What I do need is real world and sci-fi outfits for the dudes.
In general, most Runway Stuff isn't intended for actual use (unless you are Madonna or Lady Gaga)
In general, most Runway Stuff isn't intended for actual use (unless you are Madonna or Lady Gaga) For the most part this is correct it's mainly adapted to suit the mass market but portions of those outfits would do reasonably well in some areas just toned down a little.
And for us who don't do Saturn but Barsoom:
Emperor Ming was quite the glamrocker!
Jareth the Goblin King
A bit less gay and really awesome.
Hope someone out there can get some ideas!
Umm...what's all that different from what he usually wore, on stage, around that time (other than the hair)?
While he wasn't quite as wild as Elton John, he wasn't exactly 'tame' when it came to clothing. (Now, his clothing choices seem to be positively boring...)
Umm...what's all that different from what he usually wore, on stage, around that time (other than the hair)?
While he wasn't quite as wild as Elton John, he wasn't exactly 'tame' when it came to clothing. (Now, his clothing choices seem to be positively boring...)
Ahh... the 80's hair bands... some of the most terrifying clothing ever....
The lack of male clothing has always been painful. I think it was most painful when I was trying to do RP-based post apocalyptic renders a couple of years ago. Let's see... how many different ways can I mix and reuse Hardcore and Cyberpunk to make it look like something different? And the others doing renders from the same RP were using the same pieces. Between lack of choice and M4's shoulders killing every shirt, I pretty much gave up on rendering males.
Ahh... the 80's hair bands... some of the most terrifying clothing ever....
The Disco era (Saturday Night Fever) clothing wasn't that much less horrifying...
Ahh... the 80's hair bands... some of the most terrifying clothing ever....
The Disco era (Saturday Night Fever) clothing wasn't that much less horrifying...
To be honest, I can't say you're wrong....
The Disco era (Saturday Night Fever) clothing wasn't that much less horrifying...
To be honest, I can't say you're wrong....
Part of the peacock syndrome, like 18th century European upper class fashion. But the dour 19th century wasn't much better. I'm sorry, but men just look silly trying to wear fashionable clothes. Perhaps hard bodies and loincloths are best.
I can get behind that. Well, behind, in front of, under, on top. Whichever.
Edited to be somewhat more topical: yes, definitely need more men's clothing. Note to self, maybe don't post while under the influence.
I think men look great wearing fashionable clothing personally.
Greetings,
I think great looking men look great wearing fashionable clothing.It's a good bit harder for not-so-great looking men to wear the fashionable things. This carries over into renders, as much like real life fashionable clothing, digital high fashion doesn't generally do a great job of adapting to variations in the form. :)
...but then, this is my usual wardrobe. Without the metal on the arm. :)
-- Morgan
Cool image Cypherfox! I love it. Nice sense of emotion and pose.
In general, I don't see a huge amount of average looking people illustrated in 3d. But maybe I'm just not looking carefully enough.
What I want for 3d illustrations really aren't always representative of real life. Just like most fantasy. So While I do some average people renders, I would say the vast majority of my female characters are 'beautiful' and the guys ripped so I want clothing that compliments that in addition to regular people wear.
If I illustrated based on what I saw around me, most men and woman would wear jeans, t-shirts, hoodies, or sweaters and the occasional short outfit. I live in a casual somewhat colder California climate. Most of the clothing sold in the store is pure fantasy, according to the reality I live in. And I'm okay with that really... .But everyone has their own reality. In a warm climate, shorts, tanks and sandals might be the norm. IDK
I'm so glad to see this topic. This is a huge source of frustration for me. Sadly, as someone mentioned earlier, I often feel compelled to buy men's stuff when it comes out, even if I'm not fond of the design, simply in hopes we'll see more of it come out. But as my budget gets tighter, I am able to do this less and less.
One thing that drives me bonkers is that I have the same problems with male clothes I do with female clothes and that is that I have certain things I like and certain things I don't like. I prefer lots of utility and posing morphs. I prefer the outfit be separate pieces so I can mix and match it. I also may or may not like the style of an outfit that is released. For female clothes this isn't as much of an issue since there are roughly 10 billion skimp wear, lingerie and dresses released daily. For male clothes I'm lucky to see a couple a week sometimes.
Ah, yes... let's look fondly back at the 70s. :-S
I admit that those men look great. But those men would look great in a burlap bag or a loincloth. However, thankfully men's styles have not gone to the burlap bag scene yet, but women's have! %-P
Ah, yes... let's look fondly back at the 70s. :-S
I admit that those men look great. But those men would look great in a burlap bag or a loincloth.
Ummm...you owe me a monitor...that yellow-green suit melted a hole right through my screen...
Actually I like those. I kind of like the retro look... The 70s look better than what I see in fashion for men locally;-)
Greetings,
No, you're absolutely right. I specifically tried to render him a little more 'average' than usual, but even 90% of my renders are exceedingly pretty women and men. And they DO look good wearing fashionable clothes. :)I actually am not as bummed about the 'male clothing' thing as many; there are some really good options out there, and a bit of retexturing goes a long way. StreetWear's (Stonemason's) Genesis sneakers and jeans, for instance, are mind-blowingly good, even on G2M.
While I appreciate that the ratios are way over skewed, and always will be, I wonder if some of it is complaint inertia at this point... :)
There are a lot of really, really good male outfits now. From sword and sorcery through modern day and into the far future, we're pretty covered. Days like the recent ones, where a ton of great male content came out at once are always welcome, of course. (Desert Pathfinder, Air Defender, Waiter, Blue Collar Basics, Prison Clothes before that, and even some more PC+ item textures for a male outfit... Going back further, there's the paladin, the vintage aviator, and more. It's been a GREAT couple of weeks for G2M stuff!)
Here's my ultimate compliment on the state of G2M clothing... I can't afford to get all the great outfits that DAZ and PA's have released for G2M. That's kind of awesome. :)
-- Morgan
Well like most things, a lot has to do with what you're looking for and personal taste and that is not a universal. I don't think it's inertia. And I'm not convinced there are a lot of good outfits. There are *some* good outfits, but most seem okay or average. Quality I guess is in the eye of the beholder. =-)
What I'd like to see, and what was mentioned earlier would be some texture expansions for what is being sold in the store.
I think men's clothing being more simple in appearance, often lacks detail in 3d land which will make it shine. Clothing is not modular enough, waistbands which are meant to be covered in an outfit, for example don't have detail. The zipper looks odd or entirely missing, pants look smooth or 'tights' like, bulges are permanent if included in the clothing and not adjustable, Wrinkles are the same all over, belts look like rubber or straps get distorted, etc, there are few if any adjustment morphs, only one color, or texture included etc, textures are too shiny, or lacking in sufficient detail.
The same can be said of course for female outfits, but outfits which are like the ones describe above are just kind of average to me. To get great, there needs to be adjustments, textures, and fits, and believable details and there just aren't a lot of outfits that aren't just fairly boiler plate.
Ahh... the 80's hair bands... some of the most terrifying clothing ever....
HEY NOW, those were the best years of my life. I still have some of the stagewear i had as a rock musician. My GF, who is much younger than I, likes to pull it out of storage and get a good laugh though, X-(
The advantage of reviewing "retro" is the ability to see the forest despite the trees. In review, the 70s seems to be a period of incredibly bad taste and poor quality in fashion, car manufacturing, and eco friendly decisions. I blame the 5 decades of leaded gas fumes accumulation of the era.
THAT explains so much...
I tend to agree. Now there are some really nice pieces and some really good sets, and there are some really good bases, but the number of "out of the box" usable seem much less than the number of "out of the Box" female outfits. I've seen a lot of outfits that are nice, but very "plastic" looking out of the box. even that new air defender set, while nice, and I plan on purchasing it soon, the pants and tee shirt have a touch of "plastic" shine to them. often when looking at cloths, the texture add ons are far more realistic than the base items.Punked for Dark Passion Male, is a good example of this. Now I can retexture some things, but I'm currently so far behind on my project, I'm no longer sure It's going to be ready this year. I really need things that look good out of the box.
Don't forget All the Drugs from the 60's too... I'm sure there are a few hippies that are still high from the 60's....
yeah we definitely need more crocheted and macrame clothing, and thats just the 60's mens fashions :lol: