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Don't forget All the Drugs from the 60's too... I'm sure there are a few hippies that are still high from the 60's....
Ah, the sartorial splendor of the late 60s and early 70s - tie-dyed shirts, Nehru jackets, bell-bottom trousers, oversize medallions on oversize fake gold chains - and paisley ties. Yeah, I'll go along with drugs and lead. :-)
I lack uniforms in my runtime! The fancy dress uniforms for parades and so on.
I love the navy uniform from about a month ago, but I'd wanted more textures to that one and more options when it came to stripes, buttons and so on, to get a higher variation. To use it for different ranknings and so on
And why can we never have something like this!
Or a jacket like this!
More military garbs
This one would be a total grab too!
(Sorry for spamming the forum but I have yet to figure out how to post several pictures in one post)
I don't know about other countries but in the UK they are referred to as Full dress or Ceremonial uniforms ( "Number Ones') as compared to Dress Uniform (Number twos) and combat or BD uniforms (with various numbers), not Fancy Dress.
Click Preview, then use the Browse button to add another image - up to five (thanks to Chohole for spotting my overestimate).
To New Artists looking to sell there goods:
A few pages ago Sickleyield, Havos, and CypherFox Started to discuss something that is very, very important: Marketing. I'm gonna expand on that some.
When selling your own art, Marketing is the single biggest pain there is, yet it's also the single most important aspect in regards to whether your going to be successful or not, I'd even argue Marketing is far more important than the art itself. I've seen vendors make a killing off of junk, while someone with great artwork barely survives. I hate marketing, and this is one of the bigger reasons I don't sell art anymore.
However, the fact remains, when I'm browsing the Daz stores, you have approx. 1-2 seconds to catch my eye. If it doesn't, I'm moving on. It now no longer matters how great your item is, I'm not going to click on it (this time at least) That first promo photo is the most important photo. I don't care if it's rendered in Iray, Octane, Reality, Luxor, or 3Delight, it should be the absolute best. I'm interested in seeing the full potential, even if my own renders don't come close.
Once I click on the item to get a closer look, you have about 10 more seconds to convince me to buy. Again the best way is the best photos you've got. make sure to show any morphs, (especially on clothing) The notes are nice, but they are usually a blah, blah blah...
Now one last thing that I look for is an image of the untextured mesh (on clothing mainly) to confirm that the outfit is indeed individual pieces. Unless it is something like a coveralls set where the top and bottom are one piece, I don't buy outfits that the top and bottom are welded. I like to mix and match. I looked at 4 outfits today that looked good, but the mesh looked like the shirt/pants were one piece. This is personal preference, but I passed on all 4 because of this. if they aren't welded, then make sure you show that.
The line between overselling and underselling your product is a fine one, but if you don't put your best stuff forward, you'll likely not to sell anything.
Has it been 3 months already? :) (These sorts of threads seem to crop up regularly)
I would love it if we got more textures for the stuff that's out there. Especially if those textures can re-purpose some existing outfits to look like something different.
At this point, I ask 2 primary things of the vendors who do make men's clothes & textures (beyond quality (more or less a given at DAZ) and the ability to mix and match with a minimum of tweaking (less so, though an understandable difficulty for some outfits))
1) That my guys don't *all* look like they shop at the same shops/patronize the same tailor. (So just because Vendor A has made a suit doesn't mean I won't buy one from Vendor B as well.) Especially of value if I'm making a scene with more than 2 guys in it.
2) That I can put guys and girls into the same scene without the guys looking over/under dressed, significantly out of period, from the wrong (sub)culture, or otherwise out of place unless I want them to.
#2 is still possible with a 4:1 ratio of girl stuff to guy stuff in most genres. #1 gets a little difficult in the ones that are already dealing with notably smaller market.
Well, I just wanted to give a Shout out to Sickleyield, and the Dirty Denim Set (likely usable on both male and female characters). Picked it up in today's sales, and it looks great, as well as the morphs Drop pants/Fly open work really well. It's the first set I've come across with these morphs that don't look like they are melting when using the morphs. most important, they actually fit a number of my harder to find clothes for characters. I'm looking forward to purchasing the morphing business suit at some point as well.
Heres one of my render of the Marine Blues Dress for GM2.
Edit: Indeed male clothing is lacking and is hard to find some good ones.
This is exactly something which should come for the men as well - but we never see it happen. Why is that really?
http://www.daz3d.com/arcadia-rising
It may autofit to gen 2 male. Not sure. Haven't tried it yet. I do like the outfit, and prefer the more metallic look than the typical plastic sci-fi wear.
I actually am not as bummed about the 'male clothing' thing as many; there are some really good options out there, and a bit of retexturing goes a long way. StreetWear's (Stonemason's) Genesis sneakers and jeans, for instance, are mind-blowingly good, even on G2M.
While I appreciate that the ratios are way over skewed, and always will be, I wonder if some of it is complaint inertia at this point... :)
There are a lot of really, really good male outfits now. From sword and sorcery through modern day and into the far future, we're pretty covered. Days like the recent ones, where a ton of great male content came out at once are always welcome, of course. (Desert Pathfinder, Air Defender, Waiter, Blue Collar Basics, Prison Clothes before that, and even some more PC+ item textures for a male outfit... Going back further, there's the paladin, the vintage aviator, and more. It's been a GREAT couple of weeks for G2M stuff!)
Here's my ultimate compliment on the state of G2M clothing... I can't afford to get all the great outfits that DAZ and PA's have released for G2M. That's kind of awesome. :)
-- Morgan
Wait... are you telling me that StreetWear is actually Stonemason?
That really would explain a lot. Damn it, man make some more clothes like that, please!
edit - delete, redundant info
It's the irony about creating new products. Consumers always ask for "New" and "Different", but the truth is that most "New" and "Different" products fail in the general marketplace, because most people really aren't as adventurous as they like to think they are. Doesn't matter if it's 3D, music or Breakfast Cereal. So, as a result, manufacturers are far more inclined to play it safe and sell something that's similar to something that's already selling well. And, needless to say, bodysuits/catsuits for the girls are usually fairly safe sells. On the other hand, there's no major perceived demand for a full fireman's outfit, so both genders have to make due with BillyT's old M4 set, or the even older Poserword versions.
To further the Irony, Many times I look at the new products, like what I see, but just can't bring myself to click the buy button, mainly because of the cost. This is not saying that the costs are too high, just that I have a hard time spending a lot on intangibles. I recently passed on the Minotaur 6 bundle which was at 72% off and with Daz Coupon, I could have picked up the $67.00 bundle for $12.00. This is was a great deal, but I just wasn't able to pull the trigger, despite of the Minotaur 6 having been on my wishlist for months.
Basically, even though many new items cost less than 1 hr of work at my job, and I know it would take me more than 5 hrs to make it myself, I still have a hard time spending cash on intangibles when I look in my near future and see things like my need for a new Roof, Furnace, Vehicle, appliances, all within the next 5 years. I'm not saying I want Daz/ Daz artists to give me everything for free, as I know you guys need to pay your bills too, but it does play into things.
Your forgetting a leather harness, nose rings and a nice riding crop! ;-)~
Greetings,
Tsk; not EVERYbody needs formal wear, RAMWolff...-- Morgan
;)
Cdemerit:
What I do is set a weekly budget. Since doing 3d stuff is pretty much all of my luxury 'cost,' I set it accordingly.
So every week I get a bunch of stuff. If I really want something big, I save up 2 or more weeks for it.
Aside from not owning a really nice pair of formal shoes I have a beautiful wardrobe but like most of the guys here, I wear 95% of the time jeans, untucked shirts and T's, tennies or casual shoes. I never leave without my watch, choker, rings and bracelet though, a pet peeve of mine in the 3D world... no one makes really nice, NORMAL male fashion accessories like that... the stuff that's out there is for kings and fairies... nothing a man would wear in the real world unless he was a gay queen! While I am a gay queen I wouldn't! LOL
Greetings,
Chokers are all over the place. They're made for the girls, but honestly, they're just simple props most of the time, a little smart-propping and it's usually fine. (I also haven't seen a decent choker for guys in common brick-and-mortar stores, though.) Bracelets are 50/50, there's a LOT of them, but most of them aren't really guy-oriented.I have to admit, I haven't seen many decent watches, and you're dead on about rings. They're almost never made for guys, and when they are they're absurdly over-the-top. Subtle male accessories are rare.
-- Morgan
[Edit: Maybe the popularity of the Apple Watch will drive a few enterprising PA's to create a decent watch+band set?]
Well, it really depends. Until March $0. However, I realized I had some extra cash on hand, and there were some good sales. Since march I've tried not to spend more than $100.00 a month. I don't really have other hobbies, so I don't feel bad spending a little on myself to play with. However, starting this month, I've been much slower to pull out the card and buy stuff, not because I can't afford it, but more the prices aren't as good and more importantly, I have so much new stuff already, that I haven't yet used. My example of Minotaur 6, I picked up Rawart's Minotaur for genesis on sale for like $5.00. So I have the minotaur covered, Id just like the Minotaur 6 as well, when worlds align and I haven't got other things to buy.
March killed me, because a bunch of RL stuff meant I had to reduce my budget to $0.
And I watched allll those sales.
sadface
I'd like a male jewelry/accessory pack that just isn't extreme piercing or goth. There is a nice one for M4 at content paradise that includes, various necklaces, rings, wristbands, watch, glasses, and hats.
I want Mr.T 80's gold pack....
Gold chains have their uses. I just always feel Mr T would probably have severe neck pain, but that's his choice =-) Chains that don't deform on the guy's necks would be great. Or that could be hidden partially under a shirt.
I have to admit, I haven't seen many decent watches, and you're dead on about rings. They're almost never made for guys, and when they are they're absurdly over-the-top. Subtle male accessories are rare.
-- Morgan
[Edit: Maybe the popularity of the Apple Watch will drive a few enterprising PA's to create a decent watch+band set?]
Yup, one of the jewelry makers associated with DAZ3D needs to get their buns in motion.... the boys needs some nice normal BLING GDit! ;-)~
Gets my scissors and glue out...
I wish that it only took a week to do clothing. Maybe thats why people so frequently expect us to bend to the wills of the male market which does not sell..... because of the perception this takes no time at all. How much can we possibly lose?
I just want to point out... an outfit takes me a month to do completely. Bear in mind, I do not repurpose things... I also do not use topology tools, they are all built from a single polygon (and this part usually takes a week in and of itself) Then, you have mapping, rigging, morphing, texturing... its a lengthy process. And bear in mind, thats just clothing.... bigger sets with other things take longer.
At a month's time, the money I need to recup that is (at the ok its decent I can live with it range) 1500$ during its intro. And that still only averages out to 1.75 an hr based on an 8 hr workday for one month's time.
For anyone doing this professionally (for supporting themselves) ROI is an important factor. Im sorry, but male stuff doesnt sell. Well, sometimes, you can get lucky... but luck doesn't really pay bills. When its your job, you cant bank on a crapshoot. I know there are a lot of threads that say moar male things!!! But voting with a wallet is likelier to get more male stuff. Unfortunately, its the type of scenario where, people stop making them, and the ability to vote that way becomes obsolete.
But I digress.... this is the reason most vendors become gun-shy. If it were up to me, I would fill your runtimes with male stuffs.... coz I like doing the male things, and I am even more in tune with it in some ways. Alas, its just not viable for me to do.
Since pictures say more than words, here is a bunch of examples of what kinda of stuff I would love to see on the store.
Especially take a look at pants and shoes. There are so many bad looking pants and shoes on the store right now, as if those are just an afterthought for the creators. Proper men shoes and boots are absolutely a must for every outfit, and pants that are looking worn, and not just average circumfence tube pants which seems to be the most prominent item on men clothes in the store.
Make stuff that has some wrinkles and creasing on bends, add some items to it like thigh straps, if it makes sense for the outfits, put fashion crimes in there like chained wallets in the backpocket or anything that doesnt make them look like they are a tube with some bending and 2 pockets.