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Yeah - how soon we forget.
Actually, there are different areas of suckage; there were issues with the old forum, but the shake-down on this one has been truly ugly; I'm still waiting for proper size images from attachments - and Monday next, that will be a trouble ticket that gets opened, re-opened, and thumped on until corrected.
Apparently, they could use a bit of improvement in new user validation. Just saw 4 spams from banwar5.com.
...nm
...nm again double post.
...true, especially the login/logout ills (which still seem to occur even in this version) along with the inability to say a simple "thank you". However, just about everything there was still a one instead of two to four click operation, there were actually "visible" buttons for doing things, a search function (albeit pretty basic), a preview mode, and the Firefox spell checker worked all the time..
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...oh, and the quoting system could use some improvement. As I have a slower connection (and slow keybaording speed due to my arthritis) a lot of times other posts get slipped in before I can post my reply. Thus my comment ends up disjointed from the one I was replying to and appears one or more posts removed breaking the continuity. In the previous forum I could just go back to the post I was replying ot click quote, block copy the post (with the author's name and other details) close that edit window using the back arrow, then go back, open up my reply and paste the quote in above seamlessly. Now when this happens, I cannot get the OP's byline, just the text.
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The emoticons were no where near as cool as the original forums (especially the ones made with teh Emotiguy), but still better looking than here.
The only "improvements" I feel have been made are being able to embed .gifs and images inline (from a URL though) and setting up custom custom dictionaries for the spell checker.
Glad they at least got rid of those awful default avatars.
The forum before the last had the best user experience of the three I've known here. The last - well, it worked. That images couldn't be embedded in the text was a real bummer. Tutorials had to have the pictures at the end of the post. The good part was that log-in for store and forum was different. With this newest incarnation of the forum I'm the least enthusiastic. I find it convoluted and not user friendly.
I agree with Kyoto about the quote thing. Using edit to cut and paste quotes had been a lifesaver for me in the past. It never ceases to amaze me that the big changes seem to happen with out any consultation with the people it will affect the most, namely us. Did we ask for a new forum, were we asked if we wanted one!?
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I like the easy to link to text feature, the ability to embed the images inline (if only 1.the target window didn't get removed when the stupid "this image has been resized" appears, and 2. that stupid text in the first place. We don't need to be told it's been resized.
I like the ease of selecting text colors, bold, etc. Much improved!
I hate the quote feature, very hard to trim those suckers. I think that's why we're seeing more examples of people leaving entire posts as quotes when they respond, instead of only leaving the point(s) they are addressing. It's hard to get those vertical lines to disappear without eliminating some of the text you want to keep!
I hate the spacing of the forums, too spread out, and also the bigger banners, way too distracting. They need to cap the size on those if they haven't already. People shouldn't have to turn off ALL signatures to escape super-sized ones.
I am annoyed that old posts cannot be edited. Those of us with reference links, or continuing tutorials, or posts which need information added on a regular basis are out of luck. If you find an error in an old post, tough luck.
Obviously, many aspects of the forum are not intuitive. Clicking on a date to bookmark a post is RIDICULOUS!
Me too. Kattey thread
New posts, after changes, also have problems with message errors when I try to edit causing I lose a lot of work and time. I asked about this, but no answer, so I suppose there isn't a particular answer to prevent this errors.
Go to the original old post; click and hold at the start of the bit you want to copy and drag to the bottom to highlight it all; right click on the highlighted text and copy; open a new discussion and paste, you should now have a new post in the new forum format that should allow you to edit it.
Is there a way to search for posts by a specific user ? Other than Google of course.
If you type a username into the forum search box (at the top of any forum page) you only get posts where that member's username appears in the post, e.g. where a post by them has been "quoted". That makes perfect sense, but it's not very helpful.
(Edit: Thank you Greg (algovincian, two posts down from here) 'Click on the user name underneath their avatar, then click on the blue gear, then click on "View User's Posts".')
I wasn't aware that anybody thought there was nothing wrong with the old forums ?
By the way - did they ever get the underline to work on the old forum? You can do it now on this forum using Styles > Inserted Text like this ... just kidding ;o) ! )
Click on the user name underneath their avatar, then click on the blue gear, then click on "View User's Posts".
- Greg
I think the problem is, the cursor behaviour when you hit return and when you hit backspace (delete does not work in the same way) is unobvious and inconsistent. The first time I tried to trim quoted text the way I've done for 20+ years, I ended up with blank quote lines all over my post.
There's way too much top posting, too. Don't know if it's people who just haven't yet figured out the unobvious, byzantine method of inserting the cursor or what, but it makes total hash of an extended conversation when some people quote properly, entering new text at the bottom of the quoted text, and some at the top. The sense of the conversation bounces back and forth like a demented yoyo. Who wrote this forum software, Microsoft or AOL?
And the forums have backslid again — click on the "Quote" button, and the screen scrolls up a little bit instead of scrolling down to the comment box.
Argleblargle.
Good idea for short threads. Won't work if people only have the one post bookmarked and don't follow a thread. Anyone who has the old post bookmarked won't know about the new one and you can't add to the old one saying "Hey, over here- a couple hundred posts away is the updated version!" (or in my case, a thousand+ posts away...)
Sorry if this has been mentioned- but in emails, when you click the link to go to the post, you don't come to the forums to the beginning of the post. I'm landing on the second or third line of it.
It was just a thought.
You are taken to the first line of the post, the problem is the bread crumb menu which takes up the top few lines of the browser and that isn't seen by the software. It is a design issue with the bread crumb menu.
...indeed, and it wastes page space to "NA" a post because you had to delete all the text and go back to quote the post you were replying to so the response actually makes sense continuity-wise.
...and another question, how does one go about purging misspellings that wre saved to the general dictionary? The misspellings for "the" ("teh" & "hte") no longer are being flagged in SCAYT so apparently they were inadvertently added to the dictionary.
Also appears that the attachment bug still hasn't been squashed as I just went to the RRRR thread and saw the "broken graphic" icon at the bottom of a new post.
I think that's a different attachment bug...
If you hit Post Comment, before the attachement is fully uploaded it will break. If you are on a slow connection, you may have to upload it a couple of times, because for some reason, if it's uploading too slow (or what the server considers too slow) it will timeout and also break the attachment.
Also, if you happen to hit Post Comment, right as the 'draft' is being saved...it will break the attachment, too...
...I waited until the file was completely uploaded. I always have to do the same when I send attachment through Gmail so that has been my S.O.P. for some time now. Also, even though I don't have a the most blazingly fast state of the art fibre optic connection, it is hardwired instead of wireless and still is fairly decent.
Yes, this is the unique way to recover old information. But some new comments created after new forum change also have problems when are edited, and some new objects included produce error message.
..forums have suddenly slowed to a crawl, had a couple post attempts fail with an error message.
Clicking on "Save Comment" or on the gear to edit a post seems to do nothing even when you click on it a second or third time.
I whish that the new forom suported spel cheking wf the spel cheker in my browser, which alreedy has al my exepshuns in it, insteed of mayking me us this SCAYT thing.
I am having an issue with using Chrome on these forums. Whenever I click on a link I get in email about a reply the form goes into a loop logging me off and will not stop, even if I hit the stop button. I have to close the page and log in here using IE, I prefer Chrome over anything else. A few days ago I had this problem but if I hit the stop button fast enough it would work fine until I decided to edit a post and it would not work. Now even hitting the stop button when the page first loads does not help.....
Complaint:
In "My Drafts", when you click the "X" button in the top corner of the post, it asks "Are you sure you want to do that?" without any indication of what "that" is. Sure, most people know from long experience that an X in the corner is used to close or delete something, but such knowledge is not universal. It would be far better for user experience if it asked "Are you sure you want to delete this draft?".
File this one under "really, really major extreme annoyance".
I'm not sure how many others read the forums like this, but I always start with the Recent Discussions link and open tabs for separate pages for as far back as there are threads with "new" posts. Then I open a new tab for each post, and close it when I'm done.
If at any point I accidentally click on a link on any of these open tabs, then backspace to return to the page of Recents, I don't get the same page of new-tagged Recents — I get the same page populated with what would be in that page if I opened it right now. Why is the forum page coded to throw away the cached old page?
Something else that's in definite headscratcher territory. Usually I go through the above two or three times in an evening, to catch anything new that was posted while I was reading. The list of what should be all-new threads is liberally sprinkled with threads where there isn't a new post — sometimes it's so bad I can never tell how many pages back I need to go before there are definitely no more new-tagged threads.
Why do you open them into individual tags? You can read and back out from that one tab and will show the thread as read.
Read the next paragraph — it doesn't just show the newly-read thread as no longer new, it re-downloads that page of the entire forum thread database as it is right now, tossing the order of displayed threads, tossing the "new" status of all threads that might still be on that page, and tossing the actual old page in my browser's cache. It's the complete opposite of desired behaviour (as are way too many things about the new forums).
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<sfx: loud raspberry noise>
Yes, the list is live - it shows the current state when you refresh it, so threads are listed in order of last post whenever the page is refreshed, and threads you have visited since the last new post lack a new flag while those you haven't (possibly posted while you were going through the first round of checking) do have new flags. It's better than the old system in some respects but worse, or at least going to take some adapting to, in others.
Oh, I'm managing to adapt OK, I just need to try always to open links in a new tab, otherwise I lose that whole pageful. It's just that it's one more annoyance on top of all the others.
Aha! One thing that was broken, then it was fixed, then it was broken again, has now been fixed. Again. I clicked the Quote button and the screen zoomscrolled down, not up like it's been doing for the last few days.
Does anyone actually get motion sickness from that abrupt zoomzoomscroll? I wonder why it doesn't just snap down to the reply text box, like every other long page I've seen with a link to somewhere else on the same page...?
Please tell me they are working on the log in/log out bug. I've been hit by that nearly every time I've come in here. I have found a way of getting back to the forum after being logged out though. When logged out of the forum, there is a message at the bottom of the screen that says 'Sign in or register', if you click that and log in, you go back to the forums instead of My Account, so that's something I suppose. Still, when you check the 'Keep me signed in' box, it would be nice if the forum software would abide by it.
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