Using the New Forums (In Progress) - Please Post Questions and Issues Here !

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited July 2015

    So... how are the forums working now?

    (SNIP)

    Well, many things have been added, and others still just as bad. Like the inability to copy words to (too, two) google to get the corect one. I feel it is still as you put so well, before.

    (EDIT, atleast my name is no longer steemroling my text, lol)

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    ncamp said:

    Right Click on the timestamp on the left and open in new window.  Copy the address.  That will get you to a specific post.

    Or tight-click and "Copy link location".

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited July 2015
    and still can't link to a specific post.

    The post date/time text is the link; hover the mouse over it, right-click and (in Firefox) select "copy link location" from the context menu. That gets the link URL into your pastebox, ready to be plopped down into a link in your reply. Not much more difficult than in the old forum, but a bit unobvious if you don't know the feature's there.

    Edit: And one more glitch — when I replied, my reply came in right below the post I was replying to. I came back to this thread a few minutes later, and there were half a dozen more posts shoved in between the two. <whistles Twilight Zone theme>

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  • and still can't link to a specific post.

    The post date/time text is the link; hover the mouse over it, right-click and (in Firefox) select "copy link location" from the context menu. That gets the link URL into your pastebox, ready to be plopped down into a link in your reply. Not much more difficult than in the old forum, but a bit unobvious if you don't know the feature's there.

     

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    That's it, thanks.  yes

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    DanaTA said:
    Rogerbee said:

    The thing there is that we are using Windows Live Mail, a program that opens and displays the emails we get from our provider. There is no word wrap function in Windows Live Mail. I also checked Outlook.com itself, there is no word wrap there either. It displays what you give it, so, I'm not sure it is provider specific. The email links show up broken no matter where you look and we can't fix that. This issue only arose after the new forums came into play, so that would suggest that the problem lies there.

    CHEERS!

    Is Windows Live Mail a webmail service, or an application on your computer?

    Dana

    It's an application that reads emails.

    CHEERS!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited July 2015
    frank0314 said:

    You need to install Windows Live Essentials http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-live/essentials

    Windows Live Mail is the email reader that is part of that package. The constant broken links were why I switched to Thunderbird.

    The Outlook thing does get confusing. Outlook and Outlook Express are programs, one comes with Office and one is bundled with Windows. However, Outlook.com is an email provider and I'm with them.

    CHEERS!

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Links Broken in email notifications, is NOT done by DAZ3D's servers. I have NEVER gotten a broken link from daz. It is done by the Email client you are using. Yes, I've had similar happen with WL2K (RMS Express, Airmail, etc), so I have seen similar before. I've even seen multiple paragraphs crushed into a long continuous page of words, lol.

    Some clients remove HTML links, and others just replace them after doing that "Word wrap" thing.

    (EDIT) As you can see in the added screencaps, What I sent myself, is NOT what I recieved, lol.

    I wouldn't agree there, I started using Windows Live Mail back when I had a hotmail account and the links I got from Daz were always fine. As I've said several times, it's only since this new forum software has come in that the links have been broken. De3an pointed out what is happening and it's clear that different email readers deal with those soft line breaks in different ways. The forum software is the culprit as the email readers are only reading what it puts out, if it stopped inserting soft line breaks everywhere, the readers wouldn't have a problem, end of.

    CHEERS!

  • And I still need to upload images multiple times befor they stick.

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    And I still need to upload images multiple times befor they stick.

    I did have that happen a few times too. A quote from Threepio comes to mind: "Sir, it seems to me that this asteroid is not entirely stable."

    CHEERS!

  • 3dcheapskate3dcheapskate Posts: 2,720
    edited July 2015

    That  little star to the right of the thread title - the bookmark thingy...

    1) I don't see any "My Bookmarks" option from any gear drop down.

    2) I've noticed that this star is orange/yellow for threads I have bookmarked in my browser. So what's going on there ? Is the DAZ web server sneaking a peek at our browser bookmarks ?

    Edit 1: a more likely reason is that your own threads, i.e. ones you started, are automatically bookmarked (including ones on the old new forum if this supposition is correct)

    Edit2: no, edit1 was wrong - I have this thread bookmarked in my browser and it's got that little orangey-yellow star even though it's somebody else's thread. But I've posted to the thread - so maybe the system automatically bookmarks any thread that you post to?

    Edit3: no, edit 2 was wrong too. It doesn't automatically bookmark threads that you post to. If it did this 'Using the new forums..." thread would have an orangey-yellow star... it doesn't.

    Edit 4: after a bit more rummaging - as far as I can tell only threads that I've created/posted to (but not all of the ones I've created/posted to) are bookmarked. I've never used that star-thingy to bookmark a thread, so the orangey-yellow-star-bookmarking must be automatic. My latest guess is that the the auto-bookmarking tries to bookmark every thread you've posted to, but missed some.

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited July 2015
    Rogerbee said:

    And I still need to upload images multiple times befor they stick.

    I did have that happen a few times too. A quote from Threepio comes to mind: "Sir, it seems to me that this asteroid is not entirely stable."

    CHEERS!

    Yea, and the solution, was to get the hell out of there. Iray, G3F, and the new forum. ALL with teething pains. This asteroid appears to be not just unstable, it appears to be headed straight at a planet...

    Estimated date of impact with "Planet Windows 10", some time on the day of Wendsday the 29 of July 2015. Lets just hope it's not another KT magnitude or greater event, the ride is already getting quite bumpy enough.

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  • 3dcheapskate3dcheapskate Posts: 2,720
    edited July 2015
    ncamp said:

    Right Click on the timestamp on the left and open in new window.  Copy the address.  That will get you to a specific post.

    Thank you, I'd never have thought of doing that, and it's a good enough workaround until {...wishful thinking...} they do it properly

    Also I guess it's no less intuitive than clicking the Windows 'Start' button to turn the computer off, and we're all used to that... ;o)

    (I still prefer post #3 to  ncamp's 1:46PM post on page 38 as a reference though. Does the timestamp on a post show up the same for everybody who views the page, or does it depend on the viewers timezone?))

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    It's dependent on the time zone, for me, yours came in at 09:01AM.

    CHEERS!

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited July 2015
    ncamp said:

    Right Click on the timestamp on the left and open in new window.  Copy the address.  That will get you to a specific post.

    Thank you, I'd never have thought of doing that, and it's a good enough workaround until they do it properly (wishful thinking...). I guess it's no less intuitive than clicking the Windows 'Start' button to turn the computer off, and we're all used to that... ;o)

    (I still prefer post #3 to  ncamp's 1:46PM post on page 38 as a reference though. Does the timestamp on a post show up the same for everybody who views the page, or does it depend on the viewers timezone?))

    If the page can't be viewed properly on a 1024x768 screen...

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  • 3dcheapskate3dcheapskate Posts: 2,720
    ncamp said:

    Right Click on the timestamp on the left and open in new window.  Copy the address.  That will get you to a specific post.

    Thank you, I'd never have thought of doing that, and it's a good enough workaround until they do it properly (wishful thinking...). I guess it's no less intuitive than clicking the Windows 'Start' button to turn the computer off, and we're all used to that... ;o)

    (I still prefer post #3 to  ncamp's 1:46PM post on page 38 as a reference though. Does the timestamp on a post show up the same for everybody who views the page, or does it depend on the viewers timezone?))

    If the page can't be viewed properly on a 1024x768 screen...

    ...I guess at least the link worked. You can't have everything !  :D

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613

    That  little star to the right of the thread title - the bookmark thingy...

    1) I don't see any "My Bookmarks" option from any gear drop down.

    2) I've noticed that this star is orange/yellow for threads I have bookmarked in my browser. So what's going on there ? Is the DAZ web server sneaking a peek at our browser bookmarks ?

    Edit 1: a more likely reason is that your own threads, i.e. ones you started, are automatically bookmarked (including ones on the old new forum if this supposition is correct)

    Edit2: no, edit1 was wrong - I have this thread bookmarked in my browser and it's got that little orangey-yellow star even though it's somebody else's thread. But I've posted to the thread - so maybe the system automatically bookmarks any thread that you post to?

    Edit3: no, edit 2 was wrong too. It doesn't automatically bookmark threads that you post to. If it did this 'Using the new forums..." thread would have an orangey-yellow star... it doesn't.

    You're using the gear in the far upper right corner, not the one on the post?

    Threads you startare bookmarked, and threads you subscribed to on the old forum have been bookmarked.  Replying does not bookmark.

  • MN-150374MN-150374 Posts: 923
    edited July 2015
    pwiecek said:

    Could we please get a date back on individual comments?

    The timestamp displays the time if it's a post from today, month and day for previous days this year, or month day year for previous years.  Hovering over the timestamp gives the full date and time.

    Pretty sure Pwiecek is talking about the same thing I brought up yesterday. Now I have quoted both of you. We know what Pwiecek wrote, we know what Fixmypcmike wrote. 

    But we don´t know when they wrote. This is a pain if you are monitoring search results. How many pages in this discussion do I have to go back to see Pwieceks Original post?

    In the old Forum it was easy to do, just go back to a page near the time and date, scrolling up and down until I reached the initial question.

    And now? Maybe Pwieceks question is on Page 38? Or Page 25? Page 2? How to look up the initial question in a 39 Pages discussion?

    So I second the initial question, could we please get a date and time back on individual comments?

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    Whenever I try to edit an older post (like trying to update the links in a content directory for a FAQ), I get an "Validate Format" error, even though the text in question works fine in a new forum post.

    Can anyone help me finding a solution to this?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    lee_lhs said:

    Whenever I try to edit an older post (like trying to update the links in a content directory for a FAQ), I get an "Validate Format" error, even though the text in question works fine in a new forum post.

    Can anyone help me finding a solution to this?

    Unfortunately forum members are not able to edit any threads which were transferred from the old forums

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited July 2015
    Chohole said:
    lee_lhs said:

    Whenever I try to edit an older post (like trying to update the links in a content directory for a FAQ), I get an "Validate Format" error, even though the text in question works fine in a new forum post.

    Can anyone help me finding a solution to this?

    Unfortunately forum members are not able to edit any threads which were transferred from the old forums

    That also explains why I keep getting an error when I tried to add FW Kyra to the list of figures with really good AltShaders.

    So, if, a PA has fixed "A major malfunction" with a product, I can no longer edit an older post to reflect as much. That's just, great!

    The more I find out about this new forum, the more I'm sure some one was seriously tripping on the DSL cord. lol.

    Brilliant!

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905

    Is it my imagination or did the thumbnails increase in size starting yesterday?

     

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    MN-150374 said:
    pwiecek said:

    Could we please get a date back on individual comments?

    The timestamp displays the time if it's a post from today, month and day for previous days this year, or month day year for previous years.  Hovering over the timestamp gives the full date and time.

    Pretty sure Pwiecek is talking about the same thing I brought up yesterday. Now I have quoted both of you. We know what Pwiecek wrote, we know what Fixmypcmike wrote. 

    But we don´t know when they wrote. This is a pain if you are monitoring search results. How many pages in this discussion do I have to go back to see Pwieceks Original post?

    In the old Forum it was easy to do, just go back to a page near the time and date, scrolling up and down until I reached the initial question.

    And now? Maybe Pwieceks question is on Page 38? Or Page 25? Page 2? How to look up the initial question in a 39 Pages discussion?

    So I second the initial question, could we please get a date and time back on individual comments?

    Oh, my apologies, I misunderstood, you mean in the attributions of quoted posts.

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited July 2015
    Novica said:

    Is it my imagination or did the thumbnails increase in size starting yesterday?

    Good Q, tho... ah, no. still the same microscopic Desk-top icon size. (at least in the compose thing)

    (EDIT) Ahhhh, they got smaller! lol.

    (EDIT2) nope, fals alarm, same exact size.

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  • XaatXuunXaatXuun Posts: 873

    one thing I found  from links to post, if I had not seen that thread yet, I get sent to the very first post.

    if that had happen  but you know the post number, then  one could just go to that page and scroll to the post number, tho I guess if ya just go back to the post that had the link again, maybe this time it would take  one to that post

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,241

    I just saw something I hadn't seen yet; I was in the middle of replying to a post when suddenly BAM this giant error message popped up with error 524, a timeout, and an explanation, overlaid on top of my page.  I could still see parts of my web page underneath, and in fact I was able to continue typing and (after scrolling around a bit to try to see the button) find the "post comment" button, all with this error frozen over the top of my window (it did not scroll with the window, the contents of the window scrolled underneath it.)  Navigating away from and back to the page erased it.

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  • sriesch said:

    I just saw something I hadn't seen yet; I was in the middle of replying to a post when suddenly BAM this giant error message popped up with error 524, a timeout, and an explanation, overlaid on top of my page.  I could still see parts of my web page underneath, and in fact I was able to continue typing and (after scrolling around a bit to try to see the button) find the "post comment" button, all with this error frozen over the top of my window (it did not scroll with the window, the contents of the window scrolled underneath it.)  Navigating away from and back to the page erased it.

    Same... Except, I then lost the post.

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    XaatXuun said:

    one thing I found  from links to post, if I had not seen that thread yet, I get sent to the very first post.

    <nod> I was sure I'd noticed something like this happening a few times over the last few days. So it's not just New Forum Weirdness™ choosing me to pick on...  frown

  • XaatXuun said:

    one thing I found  from links to post, if I had not seen that thread yet, I get sent to the very first post.

    <nod> I was sure I'd noticed something like this happening a few times over the last few days. So it's not just New Forum Weirdness™ choosing me to pick on...  frown

    As I mentioned earlier, lol.

    The more I find out about this new forum, the more I'm sure some one was seriously tripping on the DSL cord. lol.

    Brilliant!

  • 3dcheapskate3dcheapskate Posts: 2,720
    edited July 2015

    That  little star to the right of the thread title - the bookmark thingy...

    1) I don't see any "My Bookmarks" option from any gear drop down.

    2) I've noticed that this star is orange/yellow for threads I have bookmarked in my browser. So what's going on there ? Is the DAZ web server sneaking a peek at our browser bookmarks ?

    Edit 1: a more likely reason is that your own threads, i.e. ones you started, are automatically bookmarked (including ones on the old new forum if this supposition is correct)

    Edit2: no, edit1 was wrong - I have this thread bookmarked in my browser and it's got that little orangey-yellow star even though it's somebody else's thread. But I've posted to the thread - so maybe the system automatically bookmarks any thread that you post to?

    Edit3: no, edit 2 was wrong too. It doesn't automatically bookmark threads that you post to. If it did this 'Using the new forums..." thread would have an orangey-yellow star... it doesn't.

    You're using the gear in the far upper right corner, not the one on the post?

    Threads you startare bookmarked, and threads you subscribed to on the old forum have been bookmarked.  Replying does not bookmark.

     Okay, got it - it's the "My Discussions" from the coggy-thing in the top right corner of the page (not "My Bookmarks" as it says in the OP).

    Autobookmarking of subscribed threads in the old forum is the bit I hadn't tumbled to, and now that you've pointed it out it's quite obvious and logical. :D

    "Threads you start are bookmarked" is logical too... but obviously something's a bit screwy there - see the second thread in the  "My Discussions" screenshot above, which I started yesterday - the thread appears in "My Discussions", but doesn't have that orangey-yellow 'bookmarked' star.

    "Replying does not bookmark" is also useful clarification.

    So why isn't all of that in the OP under "Bookmarks" where people might read it?  After all, if the forums are so unintuitive that they need instructions to use, then why not make the extra effort and make the instructions correct?  ;o)

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