Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 10

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    Okay, courtesy of my son, he found this one. Just to give you a smile.

  • L'Adair said:

    She's not going under 64% for me, but that's still under $50US for the Pro Bundle.

    I opened a private window where my member discount wasn't in play, and put two new releases, the Kimono bundle and Sakura Pro in the cart. The discount for the Sakura Pro bundle dropped to 64%. Looks like you're not a PC+ member…
    surprise

    Yeah, it wasn't worth it to keep it when I wasn't buying much. May rejoin soon.
  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    @rgcincy   I do love the details in the diner! I'll have to go look to see if there's placards on the tables, the diners were known for the acrylic square holders (or aluminum)  that held the cards telling you the specials or the desserts. (Also, salt/pepper) I think that's what some of those props are? And from the gray overhead view, it appears some are on the table. They don't show in the other promos, it's the end of the table and not by the wall part of the table. Can you confirm? (or anyone?)   

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903
    edited March 2018

    Let's talk about a statement made somewhere out there in dazland. (aka, another thread.)  Regarding putting products going on sale. The tentative assumption? They must not sell well. 

    Well, tell that to Stonemason, KindredArts, DesignAnvil, Mattymanx, FWSA, OOT, Chevybabe, DarwinsMishap, Mely3D, AaveNainen, Zeddicuss,  EmmaAndJordi, the list goes on and on. (And thank yo so much to the PAs who are so generous to allow these sales!)  In my opinion, the reason products go on sale is to generate interest in both current products and back catalogue products. My way of thinking is this- the main reason is volume of sales. You can sell one product for $30 or get 2 people (who may not be able or willing to spend $30 on just one thing) to spend $15 each on two things. It's marketing, not product quality.  This caters to the hobbyists who may not have the big budgets.

    Your back catalogue is the gift that keeps on giving, whereas (based on what PAs have stated repeatedly) the big push/ many sales usually is when the product launches. Granted, there are some things PAs try that may not go as well as expected, and a sale helps bolster that product, but I don't think it's the typical reason why products go on sale. 

    Would love to hear what folks think on this, including PAs. 

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903
    edited March 2018

    @rgcincy

    Don't forget to keep checking out RGcincy's 360's. The Road Trip from February 3rd is neat! Love the black, ominus clouds rolling in. (Click image and drag to get the 360 degree views.)

    BTW, Rich, I'm sure you didn't catch it because you answer in a heartbeat, but you have a question back on February 3rd on your thread that didn't get answered. (last page, last post.) 

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903
    edited March 2018

    Heads up, there's a lot of 404 errors for pages right now. The Charlotte Pro Bundle is one of them. @ladair has pointed out quite a few in the sales thread.

    I passed on the Sakura Bundle because I just don't do anime. I did pick up the diner, the treehouse (Magix101), Onishi, Short Anime Hair (Gen3/8M)  and want to point out this one as it drops in price nicely with two of the required items. The X-Fashion Warrior Outfit   It's $6.92 and 68% off. I like the details. That lower midriff (the tilted bars/pleats, don't know what to call those at the moment!) are really nice, and I like the straps on the boots. (Also look at the thumbs for the heels on the boots. Not spiked, more practical.)

    Take a peek at the other X-Fashions, it's a featured store.

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  • NathNath Posts: 2,840
    Novica said:

    Heads up, there's a lot of 404 errors for pages right now. The Charlotte Pro Bundle is one of them. @ladair has pointed out quite a few in the sales thread.

    I passed on the Sakura Bundle because I just don't do anime. I did pick up the diner, the treehouse (Magix101), Onishi, Short Anime Hair (Gen3/8M)  and want to point out this one as it drops in price nicely with two of the required items. The X-Fashion Warrior Outfit   It's $6.92 and 68% off. I like the details. That lower midriff (the tilted bars/pleats, don't know what to call those at the moment!) are really nice, and I like the straps on the boots. (Also look at the thumbs for the heels on the boots. Not spiked, more practical.)

    Take a peek at the other X-Fashions, it's a featured store.

    And The X-Fashion Warrior Outfit looks like it'll kitbash nicely with https://www.daz3d.com/enigma-for-genesis-3-8-females

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    I mentioned this in the sales thread, where I asked about all those 404 errors: I opened Daz in a private window and didn't get a single 404 error. So I went into the options and deleted all of my cookies for "daz3d.com" (left all the other daz cookies,) and now I'm no longer getting 404 errors.

    I've noticed pages on Daz taking a long time to finish loading, but since I cleared the cookies, pages are loading fast again. I suspect Daz made some changes to the "backend" of the store, and my old cookies were causing an issue. I use Firefox. If you use another browser, you may not have had this problem. But if you are having this issue, regardless of what browser you use, I recommend deleting Daz's cookies, closing the browser, restarting the browser and logging back into Daz.

    Novica said:

    Okay, courtesy of my son, he found this one. Just to give you a smile.

    That is absolutely hilarious. I don't know how the man managed to get that bird to dance in the first place, but the bird shows he's no dummy!

    Novica said:

    Let's talk about a statement made somewhere out there in dazland. (aka, another thread.)  Regarding putting products going on sale. The tentative assumption? They must not sell well. 

    Well, tell that to Stonemason, KindredArts, DesignAnvil, Mattymanx, FWSA, OOT, Chevybabe, DarwinsMishap, Mely3D, AaveNainen, Zeddicuss,  EmmaAndJordi, the list goes on and on. (And thank yo so much to the PAs who are so generous to allow these sales!)  In my opinion, the reason products go on sale is to generate interest in both current products and back catalogue products. My way of thinking is this- the main reason is volume of sales. You can sell one product for $30 or get 2 people (who may not be able or willing to spend $30 on just one thing) to spend $15 each on two things. It's marketing, not product quality.  This caters to the hobbyists who may not have the big budgets.

    Your back catalogue is the gift that keeps on giving, whereas (based on what PAs have stated repeatedly) the big push/ many sales usually is when the product launches. Granted, there are some things PAs try that may not go as well as expected, and a sale helps bolster that product, but I don't think it's the typical reason why products go on sale. 

    Would love to hear what folks think on this, including PAs. 

    First, thank you for not listing all the vendors. wink lol Second, +1 on the thank you to the PAs. Third, +1 to "It's marketing..." Seems obvious to me the author of that assumption isn't in sales!

    My thoughts on it? If it didn't work, Daz wouldn't do it. January three years ago, my first month buying from Daz that there wasn't a big sale going on, (PA Festival, PC Anniversary, Black Friday, Holidays,) I was quite surprised when there weren't new releases every day. It's been a long time since Daz brought out new releases every other day. Obviously, daily sales means more money for Daz..

    But I would like to point out, Daz has trained us well. We either buy that new shiny object within two weeks of release, or we wishlist it to pick up in a couple of months, when it goes on sale at a deep discount!

    My wishlist is up to 475 items. And yours?

  • MollytabbyMollytabby Posts: 1,163

    Sneaking in here to just to say:

    a) I love this thread. I learn so much! My render speeds have improved so much as a result of the discussion about settings a few pages back. I also buy or add to my wishlist some of the items I see here.

    b) I third and add a big thank you to the PA's. I love the sales because I'm new to Daz Studio and it's a great way of trying out a new-to-me vender smiley. If I like something a great deal, I'm probably more likely to pick up the next release when it comes out.

    c) My wish list is 975 ... my excuse is that I'm new and I want everything! 

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    @molllytabby   Nice to meet you! Feel free to post anytime. If there's something you want to see, (aka Do you have this, have you rendered it?) don't be shy about asking. I'm also very guilty of buying things when they're showcased here, so you're in good company. 

  • MollytabbyMollytabby Posts: 1,163

    Thank you! I'm totally addicted to my new hobby and this is one of my favourite threads smiley.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    There are currently 51 items in my wishlist. I kid myself that this is because I am fussy and discerning, and not because I've already bought everything that's not nailed down and couldn't use everything I own even if I lived five lifetimes over :)

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,669

    I can only speak for me, but If I don't buy it initially then I don't want the item enough to pay release day price on it. Any further price reduction due to sale may have me reconsidering. But probably not. By the time the item goes sufficiently on sale another store or item may become available for cheaper. I don’t buy oldergeneration characters, hair or clothing. I don’t buy most  female characters or their content. So those items even at fast  grab prices aren’t things I buy anyway.

    For me I can’t pay  a lot for something only that I will use often. I may love your latest underwater robot dog but if I don’t have a lot of renders planned I won’t pay a large sum for it. 

    Utility is important to me in calculating the value and what I’m willing to pay. Since I rarely buy anything not on sale it is a given I will wait for sales for anything I buy in the store.

     

  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,837
    edited March 2018
    Novica said:

    I'll have to go look to see if there's placards on the tables, the diners were known for the acrylic square holders (or aluminum)  that held the cards telling you the specials or the desserts. (Also, salt/pepper) I think that's what some of those props are? And from the gray overhead view, it appears some are on the table. They don't show in the other promos, it's the end of the table and not by the wall part of the table. Can you confirm? (or anyone?)   

    I didn't seen any placards. No salt or pepper either but ketchup and mustard on the table. If you have Moonshine's Diner Interior II you'll find a napkin holder, menu, salt, pepper, and menu placard along with a wire holder for it all.

    Remember the juke box directories, which had a metal/glass enclosure with small metal tabs extending out the bottom and you could flip through to see what songs were available and the code to put into the juke box?  

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  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,101
    L'Adair said:

    @giselle3000 and
    @zombietaggerung

    I just took Beard Boss for a spin. The first thing I did was put it on G3M and test all the dials. Then I added G8M and checked a significant number of the dials, with the two figures side-by-side. The results were identical!

    When I loaded Beard Boss on the G3M, I got the auto-fit dialog, but there is no Genesis 8 Male on the list of figures the product was designed for. so I left the selection on Unsupported. For the Type of item, I left the selection on None, (as recommended from someone—Richard H, maybe—in the forums several months ago, for any hair items.)

    I have not tested it on any other generations. If you need something like this for your G3 males, this product will do quite nicely.

    One thing, though. The Boss Beard loads with the length set to 100%. Many of the styles have sections of clean-shaven skin, and require the length to be close to 0% or the hairs comes through all over. (Dials to "shave" the neck, and/or chin will remove the hair in these places.)  This can be asset, if you want to give the character a bit of the "haven't shaved since..." look. But it's something to be aware of when you first start using the product.

    I should mention, I didn't look for or read any documentation. (What? Read the manual? Pshaw!)

    Awesome, thank you for letting me know!

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    @giselle3000  LOVE your avatar! 

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903
    RGcincy said:

    Remember the juke box directories, which had a metal/glass enclosure with small metal tabs extending out the bottom and you could flip through to see what songs were available and the code to put into the juke box?  

    Nah, I wasn't born yet. (cough cough...nose growing longer.....)   Yes, those were really cool! 

  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,837
    Novica said:

    BTW, Rich, I'm sure you didn't catch it because you answer in a heartbeat, but you have a question back on February 3rd on your thread that didn't get answered. (last page, last post.) 

    Thanks! Missed that one.

  • RainRain Posts: 335
    Novica said:

    . My way of thinking is this- the main reason is volume of sales. You can sell one product for $30 or get 2 people (who may not be able or willing to spend $30 on just one thing) to spend $15 each on two things. It's marketing, not product quality.  This caters to the hobbyists who may not have the big budgets.

     

    As my father always said, “Better a fast nickel than a slow dime.”

  • Novica said:

    Let's talk about a statement made somewhere out there in dazland. (aka, another thread.)  Regarding putting products going on sale. The tentative assumption? They must not sell well. 

    Well, tell that to Stonemason, KindredArts, DesignAnvil, Mattymanx, FWSA, OOT, Chevybabe, DarwinsMishap, Mely3D, AaveNainen, Zeddicuss,  EmmaAndJordi, the list goes on and on. (And thank yo so much to the PAs who are so generous to allow these sales!)  In my opinion, the reason products go on sale is to generate interest in both current products and back catalogue products. My way of thinking is this- the main reason is volume of sales. You can sell one product for $30 or get 2 people (who may not be able or willing to spend $30 on just one thing) to spend $15 each on two things. It's marketing, not product quality.  This caters to the hobbyists who may not have the big budgets.

    Your back catalogue is the gift that keeps on giving, whereas (based on what PAs have stated repeatedly) the big push/ many sales usually is when the product launches. Granted, there are some things PAs try that may not go as well as expected, and a sale helps bolster that product, but I don't think it's the typical reason why products go on sale. 

    Would love to hear what folks think on this, including PAs. 

    I agree; a lot of PAs here don't post much, if at all, in the forums, but I've talked to one or two elsewhere and often a product that sells poorly initially can be discouraging to them after all the time they put into it. Putting their store on sale can help them get over that, especially if the item ends up selling better because of that.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,475
    RGcincy said:
    Novica said:
    Remember the juke box directories, which had a metal/glass enclosure with small metal tabs extending out the bottom and you could flip through to see what songs were available and the code to put into the juke box?  

    Sure do

    I keep hoping someone will make one

  • RGcincy said:
     

    Remember the juke box directories, which had a metal/glass enclosure with small metal tabs extending out the bottom and you could flip through to see what songs were available and the code to put into the juke box?  

    I can remember these; I think you could even input the information into some and have the music play without actually having to go over to the main unit.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,475
    RGcincy said:
     

    Remember the juke box directories, which had a metal/glass enclosure with small metal tabs extending out the bottom and you could flip through to see what songs were available and the code to put into the juke box?  

    I can remember these; I think you could even input the information into some and have the music play without actually having to go over to the main unit.

    Yep they had a coin slot and buttons for letters and numbers

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,475

    Found a pic

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  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,837

    Found a pic

    That's it. I'm trying to remember the last time I saw one. Not really all that long ago at some out of the way place.

  • cismiccismic Posts: 629
    RGcincy said:

    Found a pic

    That's it. I'm trying to remember the last time I saw one. Not really all that long ago at some out of the way place.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=jukebox+tabletop&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnpb_q9NrZAhWHh1QKHWSvD58Q_AUICygC&biw=1523&bih=764

    Shows lots of table top jukeboxes

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,669

    Lots of nice stuff released todaylaugh

    I picked up zeddicus’s art of hugging. I like her couples poses and those look nice. I also picked up noir poses shoot first corner, stylized helmet and air board and sleeping and napping.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    Uh oh. For the first time in AGES I had to sign in to the forums. I hope this isn't the start of that loop de loop glitchy problem we all had with it continuously requiring us to sign in.

    Since SereneNight mentioned posing- here's something I noticed that drives me batty. (And not referring to the poses she mentioned, I don't have those.) I wish a product would go one way or the other, and not mix it up. And there are pose sets that go totally one way, and another set does it the second way. Example: you have a figure that is laying, propped up on elbows. First, the pose should never zip you to World Center, that's a given. Assuming it isn't parented to a prop, here's what vendors are doing:

    1.Keep it where you have it in the scene for X and Z, but drop the figure down (Y) to the ground plane 
    2. Keep it where you have it in the scene (XYZ), so the figure floats in the air where you have the figure. You have the laying pose, but it's kept exactly where you have it in the scene.This requires raising or lowering the figure and tweaking it to align it with whatever surface you want to use.

    To me, I prefer the floating because I can lower the figure to the nearest flat surface that I want him/her on. If you have a big set, it's a pain to go through several layers of say, a house, and find the person that got translated to the ground plane. Daz needs to get some standards for the pose sets, and the QA people need to be checking for this ALREADY.  Your thoughts?

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,903

    Oh, this is misleading. NOTE: You get the entire building!   PX Rooftop  I think it's a cool idea, because city dwellers could (depending on landlord) set up some cool things up there. Not practical in blistering summer heat or extreme wind, but a couple benches/umbrellas and sitting / socializing areas and you're all set! 

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,830

    I think, with regard to posing, that poses should leave the X, Y, Z of the figure alone (though they often have the bad habit of setting them to 0,0,0). With regard to the vertical position of a laying figure, that should be done with the Y coordinate of the hip, not the overall figure. That way, if you set the figure's Y to 0, they'll be standing/sittng/laying on the ground whatever their pose.

    One way I avoid the "jump to the center of the world" problem with poses is to put each figure in their own group, and take care always to move the group and never the character. That way, the figure's coordinates are always (0,0,0) relative to the group, so it doesn't matter if the pose resets them. It also has the benefit that if you make the group invisible, the figure and all their clothing, hair, etc. disappear. Otherwise you have to manage the visibility of all those elements separately.

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