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I saw an interview with the distillery owner on a news channel. Not sure which one. In Italy, I watch BBC World News, Sky International, Euronews & France 24. I no longer watch CNN (for reasons I won't go into here), and I get another 5-6 news channels in English, plus the Italian ones, of course.
Am I a News Junkie? Er...... Guilty, M'Lud!
I checked the dates for the two reports and they were both published on the same day
That's awesome...I've seen similar articles about some distilleries and breweries here in the US as well. I sitll haven't been able to get my hands on any hand sanitizer or bleach. The best I was able to get are some hard surface wipies and witch hazel wipes. Couldn't even find rubbing alcohol, but somethings tells me I have some isopropyl achohol amongst my auto detailing kit in the garage. I need to go look.
vinegar should work too
I was able to get two gigundo bottles of Dr. Bronners soap on Amazon last week...that should last a good long while considering you don't even need to use it at 100%.
Same thing happening in Houston TX Houston-Area Distillery Pivots To Make Hand Sanitizer, Rubbing Alcohol https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-03-17-houston-area-distillery-pivots-to-make-hand-sanitizer-rubbing-alcohol/
Vinegar (which is acetic acid), lemon juice or citric acid. Vinegar is slightly more effective but doesn't smell so nice. Strangely enough they keep stressing that good old fashioned soap and water is actually the best thing to get rid of the viruses from your hands, so presumably would be the same for surface, like the good old days, wash the house down with carbolic soap.
And leave things to air dry, as anything, even bleach, need leaving in situ long enough to work. Wiping on and wiping off does no good at all. That's why the length of time to wash your hands, It's not magic or instantaneous.
BTW don't make the mistake of mixing bleach with acid. either bleach or the acdic stuff like vinegar. Chlorine bleach is alkaline and will just react with the acid with sometimes fairly spectacular results but less actual sterilising effect.
Be careful that you don;t mix bleach and Ammonia together either that makes chorine gas which is deadly and much worst than the virus
Some of them do tend to go overboard or become obsessed with it, but the actual wingnuts are people that have the attitude of "If I get corona, then I get corona" and carry on as they normally would without exercising any kind of precautions. I was reading this in an article from the msn.com website entitled "'If I get corona, I get corona': Coronavirus pandemic doesn't slow spring breakers' party". I'm guessing they drink too much "I Don't Givadamn" and won't be sobered up unless the consequences hit them specifically or the others around them because of their arrogant attitude.
gee the lady a cross the street is like nothing is wrong Amazon deliveries every day
i am getting along ok it feels like worlds away looking out side and down the block no one at all
kind of feel like i am in a glass bubble
stay safe and take care
I just ordered coffee pods on Amazon, so they aren't cutting down in my area.
We have to go to the store tomorrow and I'm so not looking forward to it. All the articles I've read said that one member from the household only should go but there's no way I'm going without my husband...not with the way people are acting. And there's no way he's going without me...he's liable to end up arrested if someone gets up in his face.
*edit* I was somehow able to set up a delivery with my local grocer...not sure how I managed that...hopefully they'll actually come through on most of the stuff. We shall see.
aloe vera plant & some metho will help if you need to make up a quick hand sanitiser
I get my groceries delivered from Amazon and got a delivery 2 days ago. Of course they were out of a couple of things like everyone else, but they were on time and i have been seeing amazon trucks often since then. Me and another manager at work were talking about how bad it is in Italy today and wondered if it will get like that here where the ony things open are groceriy stores and we would have to drive thru/past check points just to get to work if there is a strict curfew.
If people don't start to take this more seriously with the social distancing, then yes...I think the gov't will have no choice but to step in. The whole fiasco in Florida is a prime example. This won't work if we aren't all in it together.
I tried doing a Prime Whole Foods delivery and it let me get all the way to checkout and the point of "select a delivery timeframe" to NOPE on me. Wonderful. I spent an hour putting that cart together and it let me get entirely too far before telling me they had no windows open. I had to manually remove everything from my cart. Then I went to my local chain's site who has delievery done by Instacart and they let you know if slots are available BEFORE you put your cart together. So now I apparently have groceries coming on Sunday evening. Amazon needs to really do a learning exchange on that one...you should know if they have windows open beforehand.
I just feel bad my iggy needs to make it to Sunday. I have some frozen greens I bought for her in case...I'll try to see if she wants any of those. Honestly, she and my other animals are my only concern food-wise through any of this. I can live on spaghetti-o's for all I care.
Same here. I have a full cart order on Amazon Fresh, then at checkout, no delivery windows open. California is officially on a stay at home basis as of midnight tonight except groceries and pharmacies. There are a million of both nearby and I'm sure they have plenty of food (but not sanitizers) but I have asthma and tend to get bad upper respiratory infections anyway so I'm really paranoid. They say the virus can remain in the air for up to 3 hours and spray from just a human talking can extend as far as 20 feet! They are also saying that many people may already have it but are asymptomatic but can still spread it to others. And children seem to be fine, have no symptoms at all but can spread it to adults.
I can see a lot of stills starting up in peoples kitchens producing there own alcohol hand sanitizer
I will correct you there Chlorine Bleach and Hydochloric acid mixed make chlorine gas mixing bleach and ammonia makes chloramine vapor, which is still toxic but not as deadly as chlorine gas.
The best indication will probably be what happens in the UK. For now, the government is trying to appeal to people's sense of duty using persuasion. We're not a country that believes in state-enforced rules & regulations. But if the virus continues to spread, government will have no choice but to enforce the rules. Many people think they should have done it already, but I can tell you from experience in Italy that it's not an easy decision to make - or enforce.
I imagine once the UK goes into lockdown, the US won't be far behind.
Edit - I see California has just gone into lockdown
Have you tried Instacart? They're the ones that do the delivery with my local grocery chain, but I believe it's nationwide. I had a list of groceries I could pick from. This is the first at-home delivery of groceries I've ever done, so I'm hoping it all works out. I haven't left my house since last Wednesday.
I wish CT would go into lockdown. My mom works at a VCA and they aren't doing what they should be to protect her. They've blocked people from the office and the doctors will only see the animals, but they're making my mom go outside to each client's car to get info/take payments, etc. So she's touching people's credit cards and whatnot. They should be making each client come to the door to drop off animals and they should be doing over the phone payments only. It's ridiculous. They're putting her at risk, other people at risk, and my family at risk. And they're still taking general wellness appointments and things like nail trims. They should be open for food/medication pickup and emergencies ONLY. I've honestly started to check into the concept of supporting her myself for the foresaable future. I don't want her there if they aren't doing what they should to protect her and everybody else. She just turned 60 and that's the only risk factor she has, but my 66yo dad is/was a heavy smoker (he literally just started his journey to quit this past Saturday via hypno-therapy) so I know he's a major risk. My husband is 40 and I'm 38 and we don't fall into any risk groups other than being overweight. But still. I know if we get exposed, it will likely be through my mom's employer.
I heard about this project on 'The Rachel Maddow Show' last night and started my brain working. CDC has approved home-made face masks. I don't know how many in Daz Land are sewers and may have a stash of cotton fabric, but I thought I would put this out here just in case. The instructions are from Deconess Hospital in Indiana but I think due to shortages of PPEs that all medical personnel world wide might need these.
Need tightly woven cotton fabric, flannel (the You Tube video seems to use same fabric for both sides), elastic, thread, a sewing machine. I have a crazy amount of cotton fabric sitting in my garage in plastic bins, flannel too. Just need the elastic. Two sewing machines (not counting my antique one I bought in Suffolk that is a handcrank). I just hope Michaels is open today and I can dig my van out of 9 inches of snow and brave the icy roads. And reach someone in the medical agencies or state government here.
https://www.deaconess.com/SpecialPages/How-to-make-a-Face-Mask
I played a few rounds of cribbage last night with hubby it was a nice distraction for a change to play some cards together without the TV blasting out all the bad news like it has been. it gave us a chance to quietly talk and remissness about better days and talk about what we should expect for the future. we seem to have taught our daughter well she holding out in the high desert of California and told us she ina good place . We know what we are up against with this virus. we know what we need to do to stay safe. so there no sense listening to the media keep drumming the same beat.
Sounds like they pretty much cause the same thing though. information from
https://health.utah.gov/enviroepi/activities/NTSIP/Common%20Cleaning%20Products%20Can%20Be%20Dangerous%20When%20Mixed.pdf
stay safe out there
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those videos you been making on your yotube channel :) Great way to pass the time indeed
irish whiskey
The last 15 years I worked I was working in UK Contract services, for probably the largest Contract cleaning Company in the UK. I was a contract manager, running a contract worth 1mill UK£ per year. I had passed a Health and safety Exam (written paper, not a tick box thing) set by the IEHO (Institute of Environemental Health Officers) and actually got the highest marks anyone in the Company had got (95%). I also did a Company Management set of exams, 5 stages. They were set by the The British Institute of Cleaning Science (BICSc)
Our Operations Director would not let any manager order or use bleach on their contracts unless the Operational manager could prove that
A} The site really needed larger quantiteies of sterilisation Chemicals than could be found in small body fluid spill kits and
B} Bleach would only be issued to operatives who had been trained in the proper usage of it.
His point was that Bleach was not a cleaning chemical, and toilet acid is. One manager argued with him and said "I always clean my toilet at home with bleac" so he said well you probably have a lot of very white dirt and limescale built up in it.
Due to some of the sites I had in my area I was the only Contract Manager in London who was allowed to order bleach.
Impressive credentials
I can assure you chloramine gas is deadly toxic.
I've had a cousin in a coma over a month before he died after life support was pulled from him after mixing bleach & ammonia together to clean.