Celani 8

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  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,939
    Gordig said:

    It's a pretty lousy deal, but...I'll still probably get her. I like the character, especially her non-idealized body. I like a lot of the bundle content, and love the Wilona hair.

    I would have wanted Wilona hair if I didn't already have Natty Undercut Hair.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-natty-undercut-hair-for-genesis-8-females

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191
    NylonGirl said:
    Gordig said:

    It's a pretty lousy deal, but...I'll still probably get her. I like the character, especially her non-idealized body. I like a lot of the bundle content, and love the Wilona hair.

    I would have wanted Wilona hair if I didn't already have Natty Undercut Hair.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-natty-undercut-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    I'm happy to have both.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    edited July 2020
    wilfred said:

    I read this on the Celani page but I can't find the item (stormscapes) because the link doesn't seem to lead to it:

    4+ Add-Ons to get:
    An EXTRA 20% OFF* them
    $10 worth of Select Daz Originals FREE§*
    from the Featured Categories below
    PLUS get
    StormScapes Backdrops Volume 1 for $1.99

    The correct link is this one:

    https://www.daz3d.com/stormscapes-backdrops-volume-1

     

    That featured categories link is interesting, ?

    Featured Categories link works fine for me:

    I hope you don't have a virus. :(

     

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,903

    I picked up the base figure, since I liked her but really didn't want the bundle. I wonder why Daz decided to make Celani the first core figure avalable for both G3F and G8F, at this impressively late date.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,053
    edited July 2020

    Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

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  • mcorrmcorr Posts: 1,094
    edited July 2020

    $15 per category for me, and there isn't anything I want in several categories. So, not much of an enticement...

    Yeah, I just opined on that in another post named, I think the thrill is gone.

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  • Dim ReaperDim Reaper Posts: 687

    I didn't buy the bundle yesterday because even with the purple banner, I didn't think the deal was good enough, even though the base figure and items are good.  I did put items into my cart, but decided it wasn't worth it.

    I log in this morning to find the extra 25% off coupon, so I decided to rebuild the cart to see what difference the voucher made.

    Pro bundle alone (with voucher): $49.60 - so a nice price, but no extras for the deal.

    Pro bundle+4 cheapest add-ons: $63.14 - still a little steep, so I decided to see how the $15 from each of the categories would improve the overall value.  I gave up after 10 minutes.  Most of the categories are full of things that have been offered many times before.  I didn't want them then, and don't want them now.  To make matters worse, Daz still can't seem to get the sort by "New Arrivals" to work - why is a genesis 2 figure appearing third when sorted in this way.  It just makes it too tedious to trawl through pages of old content looking for something that will fit into the $15.  I also noticed a lot of items where their price seems to have increased yesterday when they were put in these categories.

    Lately, every time I look at the deals for pro bundles, I feel like we are all unwittingly taking part in a big marketing experiment.  "Will they pay just this bit more this time?"  "Ok, what if we offer 25% off, to get it below x price, but without the extras?"  "If we offer $15 off this, but price everything just above $10 and $5, how much extra can we get them to pay in order in order to use their $15?"

    I understand that Daz is a business, and businesses need to make money.  Lately though I don't know whether Daz are in trouble and really need to make more money - hence the increase in pro bundle releases and the diminishing of the deals that go with them, or whether someone from high is pushing for higher profits and these are the results we are seeing.  Either way, I'm not going to bother until a pro bundle comes out that is either VERY different from what has come before (I'm thinking along the lines of Ollie), or is offering a good deal that I don't have to spend hours picking over old content to take advantage of.

    Unfortunately, all of this again detracts from the hard work that PAs must have put in to create the bundle content.  Put this bundle with the type of deals that you were offering in the past and it would be an instant buy. 

  • bjoernb78bjoernb78 Posts: 140
    wilfred said:

    I read this on the Celani page but I can't find the item (stormscapes) because the link doesn't seem to lead to it:

    4+ Add-Ons to get:
    An EXTRA 20% OFF* them
    $10 worth of Select Daz Originals FREE§*
    from the Featured Categories below
    PLUS get
    StormScapes Backdrops Volume 1 for $1.99

    The correct link is this one:

    https://www.daz3d.com/stormscapes-backdrops-volume-1

     

    That featured categories link is interesting, ?

    Look at the domain it's www.https.com - not daz. So it's a typo or if that's shown first when you type in any url your browser got hijacked.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,706

    The url seems to have been copied incorrectly. It should be https://www.daz3d.com/celani-8-face-the-apocalypse#featured which for me goes to the right page.

  • BandoriFanBandoriFan Posts: 364

    Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

    It's okay to prefer sexier clothing (which is actually pretty abundant) but there's no need to get political about it by blaming a much needed movement 

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,058

    But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat.

    Flat boots are a good thing. Wished there would be more flat boots in the store wink

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Novica said:
    alienarea said:

    Just installed the ProBundle, but Celani 8 is missing. Looks like they included the starter bundle in the probundle but not Celani 8 base. Opened a ticket for it.

    Ouch but LOL. Of ALL the things to leave out of the bundle- the character herself???!!!!! surpriselaughsurprise

    ... Celani 8, coming Daz (soon) to a computer near you! laugh

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited July 2020
    gerster said:

    But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat.

    Flat boots are a good thing. Wished there would be more flat boots in the store wink

    Someone had an interesting idea in the Requests section.  I've been advocating for both high and low heeled versions of boots in the same product package for a while now, but PA's arent interested in doing that.  So this other person suggested maybe making the interesting bits of the boots as addons that you could fit on top of a basic boot.  That way, if there was some interesting armor pattern or some such, you could put say the Amazing Morphing Boots underneath the boot armor and choose whichever heel height you like!

    I like that idea!

    I ended up drinking the kool aid and grabbing this bundle.  I blame Adiene and Vex for making Dezzi so friggin' beautiful! (IMHO)  Plus, the bundle has a car in it...

    Definitely stretching my Daz budget a bit too far these days.  Time for a breather.  Of course, the fact that I just said that means I just jinxed it... and there will probably be some really cool thing that I will really really want released shortly...

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,858

    I didn't buy the bundle yesterday because even with the purple banner, I didn't think the deal was good enough, even though the base figure and items are good.  I did put items into my cart, but decided it wasn't worth it.

    I log in this morning to find the extra 25% off coupon, so I decided to rebuild the cart to see what difference the voucher made.

    Pro bundle alone (with voucher): $49.60 - so a nice price, but no extras for the deal.

    Pro bundle+4 cheapest add-ons: $63.14 - still a little steep, so I decided to see how the $15 from each of the categories would improve the overall value.  I gave up after 10 minutes.  Most of the categories are full of things that have been offered many times before.  I didn't want them then, and don't want them now.  To make matters worse, Daz still can't seem to get the sort by "New Arrivals" to work - why is a genesis 2 figure appearing third when sorted in this way.  It just makes it too tedious to trawl through pages of old content looking for something that will fit into the $15.  I also noticed a lot of items where their price seems to have increased yesterday when they were put in these categories.

    Did you actually select New Arrivals? It appears to be set by default, but if you look at the URL it is in fact using Popularity most times.

    Lately, every time I look at the deals for pro bundles, I feel like we are all unwittingly taking part in a big marketing experiment.  "Will they pay just this bit more this time?"  "Ok, what if we offer 25% off, to get it below x price, but without the extras?"  "If we offer $15 off this, but price everything just above $10 and $5, how much extra can we get them to pay in order in order to use their $15?"

    I understand that Daz is a business, and businesses need to make money.  Lately though I don't know whether Daz are in trouble and really need to make more money - hence the increase in pro bundle releases and the diminishing of the deals that go with them, or whether someone from high is pushing for higher profits and these are the results we are seeing.  Either way, I'm not going to bother until a pro bundle comes out that is either VERY different from what has come before (I'm thinking along the lines of Ollie), or is offering a good deal that I don't have to spend hours picking over old content to take advantage of.

    Unfortunately, all of this again detracts from the hard work that PAs must have put in to create the bundle content.  Put this bundle with the type of deals that you were offering in the past and it would be an instant buy. 

     

  • NathNath Posts: 2,856
    gerster said:

    But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat.

    Flat boots are a good thing. Wished there would be more flat boots in the store wink

    This.

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,212
    edited July 2020

    Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

    It's okay to prefer sexier clothing (which is actually pretty abundant) but there's no need to get political about it by blaming a much needed movement 

    The main reason some people want flats is for "believability" since high heels aren't practical in combat. Suspension of belief has its limits. Not everyone is doing pinup renders or wanting to use these outfits on female characters. (I've had bad luck using heels on G8M and others don't want their guys wearing heels.)

    I think I'm also the only one not too bothered by the open toe boots because a few shonen anime come to mind that have characters who wear these types of shoes, so I think it's great for cosplay and kitbashing.

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    I hadn't looked at her in my runtime yesterday, but @nicstt your comment made me curious if her 'Actor' was in her file so I just opened DS and started to load her. I found two figures, one marked Celani 8 for Genesis 3 Female. So that explains the number of add-on PA characters that have both G8F and G3F versions.

    So she is there with an extra treat for those who still work mostly in G3 characters.

  • jimmyzpopjimmyzpop Posts: 118

    I am glad that Daz did the 25% extra off of Celani pro bundle. Finally, my cart price was more reasonable and I pulled the trigger. I am very happy I did too and Celani renders very well just out the box! Unlike some others on this forum, I really enjoy the unique and different body sculpts for the core figures like Celani. There are many body and face types out in the world, and I prefer to use quality sculpted base figures as the starting point for my dial spinning. I would rather not spend countless hours dial spinning a mediocre base version of Celani or Nida from a Vicy 8 base model, that I would then modify even more to create my character. A quick example, I can easly create a older asian grandmother with Mei Lin or asian style character and aging morph packages, however since Mei Lin's body (most G8 bodies) is not scrupled with extreme curves, as well as body to hight proportions with those curves, I will never get a very close match to Mrs Chow's default sculpted body and details to build / dial out from. I own way too many characters, and I now only like to buy well sculpted unique characters to add to the "gene pool". Also side note, love the outfits and vehicle as well! Thanks PA's and Daz!  

       

  • butterflyfishbutterflyfish Posts: 1,275
    Nath said:
    gerster said:

    But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat.

    Flat boots are a good thing. Wished there would be more flat boots in the store wink

    This.

    +1 for flat boots. 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,939

    Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

    It's okay to prefer sexier clothing (which is actually pretty abundant) but there's no need to get political about it by blaming a much needed movement 

     

    The main reason some people want flats is for "believability" since high heels aren't practical in combat.

    They aren't good for jumping over park benches either.

  • Dim ReaperDim Reaper Posts: 687

     

    Did you actually select New Arrivals? It appears to be set by default, but if you look at the URL it is in fact using Popularity most times.

     

    Thanks, Richard - you are correct - it shows as "New Arrivals" under the "Sort by", but isn't actually doing that.  But I feel that my point still stands - why hasn't anyone at Daz bothered to fix that?

    Definitely good advice for the future though, so thank you for pointing it out. 

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,189

    Please bring sexy back!

    Seconded, but more in regard to the characters.

    I don't mind some of the mainline G8 characters catering to the crowd that wants "less sexy" or "less pretty" or whatever - that's not a problem. But we've had a string of ladies molded in that fashion lately - Celani, Kayo, Angharad, etc - without any stunners in the recent Daz lineup.

    And with most of the guys being very athletic, good-looking types, the push for subdued looks seems one-sided.

    PAs provide some very nice alternatives to Daz characters, but we're missing some obvious crowd-pleasers from Daz: How about sexy and athletic Rune 8? Or sultry and voluptuous Lilith 8? Or a smoking hot Hispanic or Latina gal? Or an Arabic beauty?

    I've had to buy outside of Daz to find a suitable female warrior to join Ashan and Scar - which is a sad state of things since Daz already has the perfect companion figure in a potential Rune 8.

    And in regard to ethnic backgrounds, I'd love to further diversify my selection of G8 characters, but many of Daz's offerings in that regard fall into the "subdued looks" category - Kala and Gabriela in particular, looking as if a very attractive proposed model had their facial features altered to look less feminine. Heck, Mei Lin 8 is actually outclassed by her predecessor Mei Lin 7. (All my opinion of course - no need to point out the obvious, fellow Dazlings.)

    Anyway, I don't have a problem with Celani - I'm just not interested, even with the additional discount. Some others here seem to like her - that's great! But give us some classically sexy ladies, too, please. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191

    Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

    Not everyone wants sexy, nor does everyone have the same idea about what constitutes sexy, and “sexualized” is not the same as “sexy”. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,990
     But give us some classically sexy ladies, too, please. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.

    Somehow I really don't see a lack of sexy ladies here in the shop. But maybe that depends on the definition of "sexy". And I also have no problem with some base figures not fitting in the "pro clothing model" category.. there's lots of PAs that manage to make these kind of figures out of the less stereotyped base figures.

    So, sorry, but I'm completely on the other edge of the thought line... I'm in for even more non-model-ish figures. But I agree, that there are still too few "normal" (= non six-packed) male figures around.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,182
    Male beer gut needed.
  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,189

    snip

    As I mentioned, PAs provide some very nice alternatives to Daz characters. And to Daz's credit, bundles often include a sexy character by Jessaii (see Xolile, Kanako, Daenestra, etc) or other artists. Mostly it's the lack of Rune and Lilith that stand out, but also some character types (the mentioned Arabic beauty for example) that don't seem likely to be created from scratch by PAs.

    Anyway, the more, the better. With characters coming faster and G9 seeming to be a ways off, here's hoping G8 ends up with a tremendous range of characters by the time it's all said and done.
  • markgoode77markgoode77 Posts: 343
    daveso said:
    Male beer gut needed.

    Already got one.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,858

    Please bring sexy back!

     

    Seconded, but more in regard to the characters.

     

    I don't mind some of the mainline G8 characters catering to the crowd that wants "less sexy" or "less pretty" or whatever - that's not a problem. But we've had a string of ladies molded in that fashion lately - Celani, Kayo, Angharad, etc - without any stunners in the recent Daz lineup.

    Which points up a problem - I certainly wouldn't consider any of those three to be "unsexy" or remotely "unpretty"

    And with most of the guys being very athletic, good-looking types, the push for subdued looks seems one-sided.

     

    PAs provide some very nice alternatives to Daz characters, but we're missing some obvious crowd-pleasers from Daz: How about sexy and athletic Rune 8? Or sultry and voluptuous Lilith 8? Or a smoking hot Hispanic or Latina gal? Or an Arabic beauty?

     

    I've had to buy outside of Daz to find a suitable female warrior to join Ashan and Scar - which is a sad state of things since Daz already has the perfect companion figure in a potential Rune 8.

     

    And in regard to ethnic backgrounds, I'd love to further diversify my selection of G8 characters, but many of Daz's offerings in that regard fall into the "subdued looks" category - Kala and Gabriela in particular, looking as if a very attractive proposed model had their facial features altered to look less feminine. Heck, Mei Lin 8 is actually outclassed by her predecessor Mei Lin 7. (All my opinion of course - no need to point out the obvious, fellow Dazlings.)

     

    Anyway, I don't have a problem with Celani - I'm just not interested, even with the additional discount. Some others here seem to like her - that's great! But give us some classically sexy ladies, too, please. It doesn't have to be one way or the other.

     

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,442

    On the whole sexy debate, remember different strokes for different folks. Myself, I really wanna see Bethany 8 come out. 

  • Well I feel like a broken record but once again I don’t like the Daz core character but I do like some of the PA characters. Actually, looking at her again, I do like her face a lot, it’s just her body I don’t like, and I always drastically change bodies anyway. But the clothes are not sexy enough for me, show very little skin and all the boots are flat. Did the #metoo movement really ruin sex appeal? I filled my cart just to see if anything would be worth it, but only one add on in each category doesn’t make it worthwhile for me. All the “free” Daz Os will be free again hopefully with a bundle I like better and a better deal. If the coupon applied to the addons and choice of freebies too, I’d definitely reconsider. Please bring sexy back! I bet you anything sexier outfits with high heels would sell better!

    I think the clothes in the Pro Bundles have been very full coverage for some time.

    Like, compare and contrast Lilith 6 versus Lilith 7 and there being no place for Lilith 8. QED, I think.

    There have been weird exceptions here and there, like Genus Unknown from Zelara 8. (Want to sell me on dForce? DO MORE OF THAT.) Mostly, it's full coverage outfits of varying types in a way that obliterates the human form under layers and layers and piles of draping dforce sheets, with no decolletage and full bum coverage.

    I mean, just look at Kayo 8's unitards (two or three of them (depends on how you count the Tigress Outfit), covering all the way up), like it would have killed them to show some cleavage aside from the one truly good outfit in the bundle. "Sexy" does not really seem to apply to Kayo even though she's got a good face, she's trim and athletic, and wrestlers wear really form-fitting outfits... it's just a weird bundle, and I like Wrasslin!

    However, I think the store also shifted policies with anatomical coverage. And criticizing store policies isn't going to do anything but get the comment removed, so it is what it is.

    It's just strange you can do a Scar (I mean, haven't we cancelled Conan the Barbarian? and Robert E. Howard?)... but could they do Red Sonja? I'll believe it when I see it. (And if people think Red Sonja is sexist, tell that to the women who write for her today.)

    Anyway, long rant for something that could get deleted anyway. TLDR...

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