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Since I was noting the lack of pics earlier, I threw this one together, with Dezzi for Celani 3 (G3F). It's really awesome that Dezzi and Celani both have native G3F AND G8F versions!
I saw these two renders, and I heard Kylie (that's Minogue for you youngsters) say, "Like Chocolate..." (If you don't know the tune, do yourself a favour, and check it out, with the original video preferably). Celani is really extraordinary. So I glad I held onto money just in case we had weekly Pro Bundles.
IDK I think her elbows are too pointy. 2/10. would not bang
Just kidding. Since I'm not from the weird corners of reddit, I think she's very pretty.
also I like that while she has some flesh on her she's not smooth. I find a lot of the less skinny morphs tend to be smooth and undefined, which isn't always how it goes in the real world, especially if there also some muscle involved.
That's an awsome render. Her face looks amazing and the detail is remarkable. I couldn't afford the Pro Bundle, heck I can't even afford the base right now but wow does this image really make me sad that I'm too broke to have her in my rutime right now. :(
Also, is it just me or does anyone else keep reading/calling her name "Calami" (pronounces as salami)...
Celani 8 about to dish out some justice. :)
I don't know how it's pronounced but I've been pronouncing it in my head like "Salon-E" -like Hair Salon followed by a hard E.
Beautiful renders everyone! She looks really great!
That being said, I still think that she won't add that much new to my library since I already have Darcy.
I'm not saying they look the same, to be clear... but somewhat similar in my eyes, and they have "the same spirit" if that makes sense.
In a world where I have infinite funds and disk space I'd pick her up in a heartbeat. In this world I'm afraid I'm gonna have to pass.
With 30% off (via gift card) on top of the extra 25% off, I find the bundle to be a reasonable proposition now, with enough interesting bonus content to make the purchase worthwhile. Thanks, Daz!
Yes, that was my point -- human vs. artistic (in this case 3D)
I will find out for you
and if it was website generated, will ask for link for you!
ROFL!!! Well my friend who is Italian has Celani as her surname and it's pronounced Cel-ann-ee buuuut now I'm definitely going to start calling her Ms Calami (which will eventually just become Ms Salami over time)
Interesting - I wondered what other people made of her name.
For myself, from the moment I saw it I thought of it as an Italian-style "CHE-LAH-NEE".
Superb renders, by the way, by both you and J.Cade.
ETA: I wasn't going to get her (too many women in the Content Library already!) but after the GC deal yesterday and seeing these, I might have to change my mind.
+1
Also PlatClub+, and that was the lowest price I got as well.
The #MeToo movement is about men in power using that power to abuse and control women, especially in Hollywood. I myself have been a victim of this MANY times as both a young wannabe actress and as a film exec. I’m all for the #MeToo movement. The problem is that there is a backlash that seems to make it wrong now for women to express their sexuality. I feel guilty now, as a woman, doing sexy art as this can be construed as demeaning women, but I think it’s just the opposite. Women are STRONG in their sexuality and should not be ashamed of it, when THEY choose it’s right for them for themselves. It’s about not letting men in power use or control you! I’m so glad that women now can complain to HR or SAG or whatever and be heard without retribution.
Men are going to be men and I’d rather they lust after my renders of non-existent women than real girls who have been coerced by sleazy photographers “Just unbutton one more button, honey” or “Everyone does it, honey, that’s just Hollywood, grow up.” I am so sick of these men. But I guess creating sexy art is a way for me to express sexuality without having to do anything myself. And at the same time, give men what they want without a real girl being coerced into doing something she doesn’t want to do. But somehow the movement has made it wrong to be sexy at all, affecting Victoria’s Secret stage shows (and those models CHOOSE to do what they are doing) and other women or artists who CHOOSE to express sexuality.
(edit; didn't feel good about my response)
I am so sorry to read that you feel this way and that it impacts on your art
But this "backlash" isn't Me Too. The idea that we women cannot express our sexuality outside of male sanction without demeaning ourselves is exactly the mentality that lead to the abuses the Me Too movement seeks to address -- that men control female sexuality, and if we seek to control and express it ourselves we are [insert nasty word]. So, I still don't see how the sentiment you've raised has anything to do with Me Too..,.
Also, ALL of our comments collectively have nothing to do with Celani
So we have all heard each other, and that's a good thing whether we agree or not, and we should probaby all leave it there. Let's free up the thread for some gorgeous renders now of this new beautiful representation of womanhood Daz has delivered for us.
This is a great render! Dezzi is my favorite of the Celani characters. I'm in the process of moving so money is tight and can't pick any of this up right now, but she'll definitely be picked up at some point.
I think all of what you are saying deserves a debate. But i fear mods might think of it to be too political (or off topic) and start deleting posts and all responses will be lost (many time i took a lot of time writing only for the original post to be deleted while doing it). So i will wait before giving my opinion in all that i will answer just about if the #MeToo has anything to do with why the outfits/models are less sexualized.
Personally i think not, specially that movement in particular. Being against unrelistic outfits is not being against sexy stuff. I will use myself as an example because i'm of those that critic impracical or unrealistic outfits. I first hear of DAZ while playing Adult VN, i'm currently writing and seriously considering targeting that same adult audience. To make it clear, i'm not against sexy at all. Yet, i'm still very critic when outfits have high heels and the user is supose to run or move in surface not suitable for it; or worst, exposed skin on space suits.
I think DAZ, in their own main releases, is just trying to please the many voices in a couple of subjects: more practical outfits, more sexy man and less amazonian supermodels. It may be a temporal trend and then flip or maybe (hopefuly) balance it more. But i don't think there is a change in policy beyond widening the scope. xtrart-3d is constantly releasing sexy stuff. Pretty3d maybe a little less lately (sales in oher places too); today's Smay bodysuit has an incredible versatility. And lets not forget: dforce Breast!!!
I do accept that current social trends/movements do influence policies (and products) in companies like DAZ (maybe even more considering the Art nature), but i don't think its only the #MeToo one behind it, that is just one of many.
ROFL ...No. Just no. Victoria's Secret was declining before #MeToo and their fashion show being effected was more their doing and their refusal to change with the times than anything else. Women want to be represented or they aren't going to be interested, Victoria's Secret has refused to properly represent women's diversity. When the marketing officer for Victoria's Secret says they have “no interest” in plus-sized models for their fashion show, you can't blame #MeToo or anyone else for the backlash that follows. Over 60% of the women in the US are size 14 and above, and similar percentages are reflected in many other countries that Victoria's Secret markets to, yet their continued act of looking down their noses at more than half the population by refusing to be inclusive of body diversity has only gotten more prevalent over the years and many women have had it and refuse to buy from a company that refuses to represent them. Victoria's Secret did that to themselves. Don't blame #MeToo for that BS. And their sales were free-falling for years before the MeToo movement simply because their ideas of what is and isn't sexy is becoming outdated. People can either get with the times or be left behind. Modern ideas of sexiness and beauty aren't the same as they were 40 years ago and companies who refuse to accept that aren't going to make it.
Back off from the politics please.
What was the 30% offer?
My take on unrealistic outfits tends toward the; "how can you wear that and not have it fall off if you dare to breathe?" Or; Okay, but how do you get *into* (or out of) it? Like those boots in the bundle which have lacing up the shins, but not at the ankle where they look too small to actually be able to get your heels in and out of them.
@winmath Yesterday there was a 30% discount code offered storewide that could be applied to gift cards amongst other things. That lowered the overall bundle price for people considering buying this pro bundle.
Oh dear - my niece just pronounced Celani as Calamari. So ladies and gentlemen may I present to you the Calamari 8 pro bundle. Now we just need Cat 8 to go along with Dog 8 and Squid 8 (yes I know we got the rework but would still like a few blown Cat 8).
David
Part of the fun of cg can be doing things that are impossibe in real life - be that glowing hair or physically impossible clothes.
and now a test render of celani in blender. eevee so it took 8 seconds wheeeeeee
I just need to decide what I'm doing for a backdrop
Gorgeous!
Well that's just another form of abuse.
Sasly, some of those in power will always abuse those with less.
Yeh, an appropriate backdrop would be good, but agree - great render.
Haha, 8 seconds; I'm a cycles dude, I just prefer the results I get. Can't argue with how it looks though.
Pity that Daz doesn't make Studio 5 based on Blender, but can't see that happening.